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The US went through a massive effort to arm China as a way to hurt Japan, mostly through Hong Kong, which led to ill-fated Canadian troops being sent there. Clash of Empires in South China: The Allied Nations' Proxy War with Japan, 1935-1941 Japan's invasion of China in 1937 saw most major campaigns north of the Yangtze River, where Chinese industry was concentrated. The southern theater proved a more difficult challenge for Japan because of its enormous size, diverse terrain, and poor infrastructure, but Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek made a formidable stand that produced a veritable quagmire for a superior opponent-a stalemate much desired by the Allied nations. In the first book to cover this southern theater in detail, David Macri closely examines strategic decisions, campaigns, and operations and shows how they affected Allied grand strategy. Drawing on documents of U.S. and British officials, he reveals for the first time how the Sino-Japanese War served as a "proxy war" for the Allies: by keeping Japan's military resources focused on southern China, they hoped to keep the enemy bogged down in a war of attrition that would prevent them from breaching British and Soviet territory. While the most immediate concern was preserving Siberia and its vast resources from invasion, Macri identifies Hong Kong as the keystone in that proxy war—vital in sustaining Chinese resistance against Japan as it provided the logistical interface between the outside world and battles in Hunan and Kwangtung provinces; a situation that emerged because of its vital rail connection to the city of Changsha. He describes the development of Anglo-Japanese low-intensity conflict at Hong Kong; he then explains the geopolitical significance of Hong Kong and southern China for the period following the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Opening a new window on this rarely studied theater, Macri underscores China's symbolic importance for the Allies, depicting them as unequal partners who fought the Japanese for entirely different reasons—China for restoration of its national sovereignty, the Allies to keep the Japanese preoccupied. And by aiding China's wartime efforts, the Allies further hoped to undermine Japanese propaganda designed to expel Western powers from its Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. As Macri shows, Hong Kong was not just a sleepy British Colonial outpost on the fringes of the empire but an essential logistical component of the war, and to fully understand broader events Hong Kong must be viewed together with southern China as a single military zone. His account of that forgotten fight is a pioneering work that provides new insight into the origins of the Pacific War.
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Apr 26, 2022 14:21
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stephenthinkpad posted:The way Zelenakyy doing the theatrical speech in the US congress(completed with roaring applauses) reminded alot of people CKS's wife (political wife) doing the congress speech during WW2. who will be Trump's Anna Chennault
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Apr 26, 2022 14:27
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HK was also an extremely important portal in getting war time resource during the Korean war. Some of the most pro-CPC HK businessmen got their start by smuggling medical and other material during the Korean war. Henry Fok for example.
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Apr 26, 2022 14:42
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https://twitter.com/yifullofsin/status/1518746474775031808?cxt=HHwWgMC9zej31ZMqAAAA
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Apr 26, 2022 16:15
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The toe peeking through the sock really sells it.
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Apr 26, 2022 16:18
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/yifullofsin/status/1518746474775031808?cxt=HHwWgMC9zej31ZMqAAAA lmfao
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Apr 26, 2022 16:21
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Lostconfused posted:The toe peeking through the sock really sells it. never look at another man's toes
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Apr 26, 2022 16:22
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https://twitter.com/nosuchthingasa5/status/1518843108024373248?s=20&t=KTIgDk0URgECJt-OK67KWQ
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Apr 26, 2022 16:22
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Cookie Cutter posted:I'm reading The China Mirage by James Bradley and, perhaps it's just me but, I'm noticing a few similarities between Chiang Kai-shek (while he was still in charge in China) and Zelensky, in terms of how they are represented to the American public as shining paragons of virtue, the disconnect between that perception and their actual behaviour towards their own population and the overall weakness of the state they control. They both ended up out of their depth in wars (China vs IJA) that could have been avoided if not for US interference in their respective regions (the exact flavour of the interference being quite different however). It's also crazy to me how back then it was China who the US depicted as the noble underdogs fighting for the homeland, much like Ukraine is now, at least until Mao came along and ruined the narrative. What makes you think that Japan was going to stop messing around in China? The ROC was getting stronger year after year and the IJA found that out the hard way when they tried staging an intervention in Shanghai in 1932. Frosted Flake posted:As Macri shows, Hong Kong was not just a sleepy British Colonial outpost on the fringes of the empire but an essential logistical component of the war, and to fully understand broader events Hong Kong must be viewed together with southern China as a single military zone. His account of that forgotten fight is a pioneering work that provides new insight into the origins of the Pacific War. How was Hong Kong in the 30s a sleepy colonial outpost? Tankbuster has issued a correction as of 16:29 on Apr 26, 2022 |
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Apr 26, 2022 16:26
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/yifullofsin/status/1518746474775031808?cxt=HHwWgMC9zej31ZMqAAAA Dudes rock.
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Apr 26, 2022 16:31
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/nosuchthingasa5/status/1518843108024373248?s=20&t=KTIgDk0URgECJt-OK67KWQ why do people think this
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Apr 26, 2022 16:32
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Tankbuster posted:What makes you think that Japan was going to stop messing around in China? The ROC was getting stronger year after year and the IJA found that out the hard way when they tried staging an intervention in Shanghai in 1932. Japan wouldn't have had the capability to mount the invasion in the first place, if the US had not helped them broker favourable terms + annex Korea as an outcome of the Russo-Japanese war. e: Or rather, their capability would have been significantly reduced. Cookie Cutter has issued a correction as of 16:38 on Apr 26, 2022 |
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Apr 26, 2022 16:32
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Japan didn’t really decide to invade China so much as cliques of Japanese officers kept dragging the state into it and the civilian government was always presented with the fait accompli of an already-in-progress war. So, for Japan to not expand the war would require a radical shift of the balance of power relative the IJA.
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Apr 26, 2022 16:32
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/nosuchthingasa5/status/1518843108024373248?s=20&t=KTIgDk0URgECJt-OK67KWQ lol narc-hearted twitter-brained shithead
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Apr 26, 2022 16:38
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1518811727806312448
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Apr 26, 2022 16:53
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Apr 26, 2022 17:14
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the director of the confucius institute in pakistan is 100% a spy right
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Apr 26, 2022 17:24
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Cookie Cutter posted:Japan wouldn't have had the capability to mount the invasion in the first place, if the US had not helped them broker favourable terms + annex Korea as an outcome of the Russo-Japanese war. The Qing empire was still a thing when Korea became a japanese protectorate in 1895. The Russo Japanese war was in 1904/1905
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Apr 26, 2022 17:37
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posted just under a year ago: gradenko_2000 posted:The CIA is funding Baloch groups to start this poo poo.
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Apr 26, 2022 17:38
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/NXTBruh/status/1518913774958247936?s=20&t=x7fYXvZ7VZiJClzqn_IVlw self-sacrifice attack
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Apr 26, 2022 17:51
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gradenko_2000 posted:posted just under a year ago: lol i thought i remembered someone posting that drat
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Apr 26, 2022 17:52
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indigi posted:self-sacrifice attack yeah do they not say martyr in balochistan
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Apr 26, 2022 18:06
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Self sacrifice attack seems like an anime translation.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:10
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Apr 26, 2022 18:28
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It's funny watching a bunch of people I know transition from being experts in Ukraine to being experts on the Solomon islands now.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:29
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Throb Robinson posted:It's funny watching a bunch of people I know transition from being experts in Ukraine to being experts on the Solomon islands now. Ukraine can join any military alliance it wants. the Solomon Islands however
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Apr 26, 2022 19:13
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The US should fund some cool groups like the tamil tigers.
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Apr 26, 2022 19:18
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indigi posted:Ukraine can join any military alliance it wants. the Solomon Islands however
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Apr 26, 2022 19:19
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Blowing out the back walls of my social credit score by posting a toe on Twitter
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Apr 26, 2022 19:24
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https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1518582418545983493
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Apr 26, 2022 19:35
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indigi posted:Ukraine can join any military alliance it wants. the Solomon Islands however
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Apr 26, 2022 19:37
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https://twitter.com/yangliuxh/status/1518928604943446016 so that's what happened to the egg monopoly!
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Apr 26, 2022 19:39
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Why is Indo Pacific a word?
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Apr 26, 2022 19:40
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Tankbuster posted:Why is Indo Pacific a word? why wouldn’t it be
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Apr 26, 2022 19:42
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that's some primo 
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Apr 26, 2022 19:52
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indigi posted:Ukraine can join any military alliance it wants. the Solomon Islands however tbh ukraine also got couped in 2014 when it wanted to join any military alliance
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Apr 26, 2022 19:59
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I guess the move is for China to get as much on the ground there ASAP before the US backed coup or whatever they have cooked up.
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Apr 26, 2022 21:16
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Tankbuster posted:Why is Indo Pacific a word? the us wants to extend what counts as 'its' region to literally the other side of the world... asia pacific wasn't cutting it anymore
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