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We should build some soviet style housing.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:We should build some soviet style housing. in an era of airborne pandemics what we really need is to cram everyone together instead of using our gigantic landmass full of half abandoned towns that could be revitalized
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Apr 26, 2022 17:26
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OxMan posted:Non coastal states are wild. I dont think I've ever seen a house that didnt cost more than 300k (and I'm talking a normal rear end house not some trashed shack you have to demolish and rebuild over) , even as a kid in the late 90s i remember when my moms friends (all electricians, which i used to think of as soooo rich) were buying houses that was the going price. That there were states out there with houses actually buyable by people working regular rear end jobs in a post 9/11 world blows my mind. when i was a kid even into the late 90s in my part of maine you could work at the local factory and earn enough off your single income to do the house/2 cars/2 kids thing and your wife didnt need to work
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Apr 26, 2022 17:27
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mastershakeman posted:in an era of airborne pandemics what we really need is to cram everyone together instead of using our gigantic landmass full of half abandoned towns that could be revitalized You can only do one or the other.
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mastershakeman posted:in an era of airborne pandemics what we really need is to cram everyone together instead of using our gigantic landmass full of half abandoned towns that could be revitalized youll be shocked to find out which place did the best at managing covid
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Apr 26, 2022 17:30
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fart simpson posted:youll be shocked to find out which place did the best at managing covid the former soviet union did quite poorly
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mastershakeman posted:the former soviet union did quite poorly dumbass
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AnimeIsTrash posted:dumbass I wouldn't call it a resounding success either
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actionjackson posted:I wouldn't call it a resounding success either dumbass #2
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https://twitter.com/slavomir_YU/status/1518303093762502658
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AnimeIsTrash posted:dumbass #2 turn on your monitor
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Apr 26, 2022 18:05
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oh hey so y’all know pretty sure Redfin is using data from their mortgage calculator to inform their estimated sales price for listings.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:How the hell is weed illegal in most of the Midwest? It's loving depressing rust belt all over. Most cities have steadily lost population for decades until recently. You need weed to stand that poo poo. cops need it to harass minorities
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fart simpson posted:when i was a kid even into the late 90s in my part of maine you could work at the local factory and earn enough off your single income to do the house/2 cars/2 kids thing and your wife didnt need to work Dang. Thats crazy. I'm in my 30s and I've never known houses to be affordable to anyone that makes under, say 35-40/hr or its salary equivalent. In CA for example, the only people i ever knew that bought houses on low wages would be married couples that would get a trash shack out 60 miles out of the city and then grind out commutes in a 90s toyota till the wheels fall off. Then i moved to seattle and poo poo lot of y'all here know what that's like around WA, Puget Sound is just Bay Area mk. 2 down to the stone. If you're not computer touching petit bougies, you're a poor retail or service/driver/security/clerical/other min wage dipshit like me getting a raise every year and still can't pay the rent without a roommate, the idea of owning a home is just like, laughable. Most of my current circle in WA has now resigned to never being able to own a home. In california, we all grew up knowing it.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:28
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but have you considered how difficult it is to hang pictures in your newly remodeled kitchen? suddenly owning doesn’t sound so great, does it?
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OxMan posted:Dang. Thats crazy. I'm in my 30s and I've never known houses to be affordable to anyone that makes under, say 35-40/hr or its salary equivalent. In CA for example, the only people i ever knew that bought houses on low wages would be married couples that would get a trash shack out 60 miles out of the city and then grind out commutes in a 90s toyota till the wheels fall off. My old manager was trying to buy a home in maple valley and competing with people that could pay half the price as a down payment. Lmao
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Apr 26, 2022 18:34
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OxMan posted:If you're not computer touching petit bougies, this always makes me lol
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it really just sucks. I’m apartment hunting right now and deciding if I should (a) find the cheapest thing possible so I can save money to potentially be competitive in bidding but also probably be miserable because lovely apartments suck or (b) find something nice and just YOLO and not save and live a happier life in the meantime.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:this always makes me lol Look, it's all relative, but I've definitely seen big tech workers leverage their wages into becoming landlords in CA but especially in WA.
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Apr 26, 2022 18:40
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look at this class traitor who works all day sitting in a chair
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:look at this class traitor who works all day sitting in a chair i'm safe, i use a standing desk
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Apr 26, 2022 18:45
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by all means take my head when the revolution comes, just give me the courtesy of watching all the billionaire heads roll first
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Apr 26, 2022 18:55
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:look at this class traitor who works all day sitting in a chair i mean tech workers are pretty anti union so yeah they are kind of class traitors
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Apr 26, 2022 18:58
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Whoa dudes I'm sorry y'all so thin skinned about the amount of money you earn from your jobs i guess, poo poo. Is it in bad taste to point out if you make house buying money you're in a different social class? Cause i thought acceptance of that was kind of how solidarity worked or whatever but I'll admit i only spend hours reading so if my take from the poors side isn't welcome then I'll just go back to using this forum as a beacon of sanity i never interact with. Can't post in the covid thread either cause if they knew how the poor immunocompromised have been dealing through the pandemic without E L A S T O M E R I C S they'd have a fit and accuse us of trying to kill them.
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Apr 26, 2022 19:02
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:this always makes me lol some of my friends that sell software make 20x what i do, with >50% of that income coming from investments. what's the proper terminology
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Apr 26, 2022 19:03
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OxMan posted:Can't post in the covid thread either cause if they knew how the poor immunocompromised have been dealing through the pandemic without E L A S T O M E R I C S they'd have a fit and accuse us of trying to kill them. lmao everyone in that thread should be forced to work in a hotel for a month
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Apr 26, 2022 19:04
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They'd be lovely coworkers, no thank you.
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Apr 26, 2022 19:06
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Casey Finnigan posted:i mean tech workers are pretty anti union so yeah they are kind of class traitors im a computer toucher chair sitter with a union and bennies s'cool would recommend still never owning a house until the in-laws pass it on, and there's a good chance it'll have burned down by then lol
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i say swears online posted:lmao everyone in that thread should be forced to work in a hotel for a month Yeah, but they're not wrong either. They absolutely can and should take those precautions because they can, they'd be saints in my book if they didn't look down on those that can't as hard as those that don't.
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Apr 26, 2022 19:08
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i say swears online posted:some of my friends that sell software make 20x what i do, with >50% of that income coming from investments. what's the proper terminology well first off probably not calling them workers lol
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Apr 26, 2022 19:09
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I think there is plenty of room in the thread for tech workers who bought a house for themselves and normal people to hate on class traitors and aspirational landlords together.
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CongoJack posted:I think there is plenty of room in the thread for tech workers who bought a house for themselves and normal people to hate on class traitors and aspirational landlords together. I don't think anyone said there isn't, it's just people getting mad about terminology. Like, if you CAN purchase a house, do you have the potential to be petit bougie and thus in that social class? I'd say yes, maybe someone disagrees. Do you call someone who has half their already considerable income coming from the loving Number a worker? Lmfao, no.
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CongoJack posted:I think there is plenty of room in the thread for tech workers who bought a house for themselves and normal people to hate on class traitors and aspirational landlords together. ...for me to poop on!
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I'd be curious how many people in the covid thread work as computer touchers.
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OxMan posted:Whoa dudes I'm sorry y'all so thin skinned about the amount of money you earn from your jobs i guess, poo poo. Is it in bad taste to point out if you make house buying money you're in a different social class? it just makes you sound dumb about class ate poo poo on live tv posted:relative poverty does not confer nobility, and class is not relative.
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OxMan posted:Whoa dudes I'm sorry y'all so thin skinned about the amount of money you earn from your jobs i guess, poo poo. Is it in bad taste to point out if you make house buying money you're in a different social class? Cause i thought acceptance of that was kind of how solidarity worked or whatever but I'll admit i only spend hours reading so if my take from the poors side isn't welcome then I'll just go back to using this forum as a beacon of sanity i never interact with.
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OxMan posted:Non coastal states are wild. I dont think I've ever seen a house that didnt cost more than 300k (and I'm talking a normal rear end house not some trashed shack you have to demolish and rebuild over) , even as a kid in the late 90s i remember when my moms friends (all electricians, which i used to think of as soooo rich) were buying houses that was the going price. That there were states out there with houses actually buyable by people working regular rear end jobs in a post 9/11 world blows my mind. These things are like $20-40K now
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OxMan posted:Whoa dudes I'm sorry y'all so thin skinned about the amount of money you earn from your jobs i guess, poo poo. Is it in bad taste to point out if you make house buying money you're in a different social class? Cause i thought acceptance of that was kind of how solidarity worked or whatever but I'll admit i only spend hours reading so if my take from the poors side isn't welcome then I'll just go back to using this forum as a beacon of sanity i never interact with. you shouldn’t post in any thread
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cat botherer posted:The working class earns through their own labor, the capitalist class earns money through capital. If someone is a landlord, they are capitalist. If their paycheck is contingent on them trading their time and effort touching computers, they are workers. Dumb poo poo like this harms class solidarity, and is exactly what capitalists want. I'ma say this: you're right, and I'm sorry. I don't often interact with people that have done their homework irl, right, so when I'm trying to explain poo poo to people that would never download a pdf of marx, most people don't read a difference between being a computer toucher or a landlord as where they get their income. A lot of them will even say, oh, they have the money to do that but won't? They're loving stupid!" IRL class difference is based on what you have and what you do. Do you drive a nice car ignoring the homeless dude hopping on the freeway in your Tesla? That dude don't give a poo poo if your income comes from the stock market or if you slaved over a hot server, you're in a different social class. You have and you lord over. Again, not saying you're wrong, just explaining where my kneejerk comes from.
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