Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Bobstar posted:

Ordered. Need something to angry up the blood now that I've ditched pretty much all doomscrolling.

Anyone got any fiction recommendations to balance out the doom? I like Pratchett, Fforde, didn't get in to Iain M Banks but might try again*, don't generally like scifi or fantasy.

*I did "enjoy" the Wasp Factory by Iain Note Spelling Banks', might try some of his other non-M ones.

I'll take a punt and recommend The Sellout by Paul Beatty. It's a satire of racism in modern America, and very funny in an absurdist Johnathan Swift/Kurt Vonnegut sort of way. The plot revolves around a fictional smalltown, that is so embarrassing it gets removed from all maps by the state of California, so the protagonist hatches an insane plot to make it relevant again by bringing back segregation.

If you like absurdist realism then try Convenience Store Woman by Sayaka Murata, about a single middle aged woman, with profound social awkwardness, who has no other desire in the world than to work in a generic mini-market in the city's financial district, but is being pressured by he family to find a husband.

Would also recommend Sisters by Daisy Johnson which is quite an unsettling psychological horror about teenage siblings, set in a extremely depressing English seaside resort. To describe it further would spoil the plot, but it has a creepy David Lynch atmosphere and involves bullying, revenge porn, and social media shaming. Fun stuff.

And since there's a new Monkey Island game on the way I'm currently reading On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers, to whet my appetite. It's full of pirates and assorted voodoo antics :yarr:

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 27, 2022

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

josh04 posted:

Capital, three volumes, by Karl R. R. Marx

he said fiction not fantasy

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


https://twitter.com/youwouldknow/status/1519314032330776576

Re textbooks, pretty much all of ours are free online with institutional access these days (which I have mixed feelings about, since it was always bullshit making teenagers drop 3 figgies on textbooks as the start of every year, but weirdly ime wayyy fewer of them actually do the reading since they've had online access). & I get that lecturers forcing students to buy the newest edition of their text looks like a grift, but keeping editions up to date is more of a hobby than profit-making, there's gently caress all money in the royalties. Also in my field (law) out-of-date textbooks in libraries are often invaluable, since the textbooks can change drastically when cases get overturned &c & sometimes you need to check the citations on another source that refers to bits of an old edition that subsequently got taken out, I'm often searching for old editions of poo poo

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Failed Imagineer posted:

Both KRRM and GRRM had problems finishing their series before dying

I feel like Elden Ring was a much more productive use of George's time.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

smellmycheese posted:

So which Tory Minister is the HoC Hog Cranker?

Raab I bet

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Boris

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Grant Shapps looks like a wrong-un, so it was probably him.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Grant Fapps

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Bobstar posted:

Ordered. Need something to angry up the blood now that I've ditched pretty much all doomscrolling.

Anyone got any fiction recommendations to balance out the doom? I like Pratchett, Fforde, didn't get in to Iain M Banks but might try again*, don't generally like scifi or fantasy.

*I did "enjoy" the Wasp Factory by Iain Note Spelling Banks', might try some of his other non-M ones.

I've read very few of The Classics of Literature, but I did really enjoy Dostoyevsky's The Idiot. Germinal by Emile Zola is good & was a major influence upon the writers of Disco Elysium, set late19th century northern France around striking coalminers.

These days I kind of flitter between reading non-fiction & reading a lot of garbage. I've read all the Sharpe books for example. They are rip-roaring fun if you just want a big series to dive into of swashbuckling soldiering. And ever since my teenage years I've loved Robert Rankin's books, which tend to be extremely silly & funny mix of sci-fi, fantasy, incredibly stupid running gags, a little bit of parody & catchy book titles like The Brentford Chainstore Massacre and Raiders of the Lost Car Park. And Sprout Mask Replica, I love that book. I think one of his more approachable books is The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse. Rankin is the sort of writer that makes me laugh out loud on the bus & sound like a lunatic, it's great.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

forkboy84 posted:

I've read very few of The Classics of Literature, but I did really enjoy Dostoyevsky's The Idiot. Germinal by Emile Zola is good & was a major influence upon the writers of Disco Elysium, set late19th century northern France around striking coalminers.

These days I kind of flitter between reading non-fiction & reading a lot of garbage. I've read all the Sharpe books for example. They are rip-roaring fun if you just want a big series to dive into of swashbuckling soldiering. And ever since my teenage years I've loved Robert Rankin's books, which tend to be extremely silly & funny mix of sci-fi, fantasy, incredibly stupid running gags, a little bit of parody & catchy book titles like The Brentford Chainstore Massacre and Raiders of the Lost Car Park. And Sprout Mask Replica, I love that book. I think one of his more approachable books is The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse. Rankin is the sort of writer that makes me laugh out loud on the bus & sound like a lunatic, it's great.

I love Rankin's Brentford 'trilogy' (11 books). Read it decades ago, and keep meaning to buy a bunch second hand if I see them.
I forget which one, East of Ealing I think, where everyone has to get a barcode on their head to be allowed to buy anything. Prophetic - I can see something similar arriving here within the next decade - even if these days it would be an implant or smart card of some sort rather than a barcode on your forehead.

On a law course I had to do as part of my surveying certification (I was once an MRICS amongst other careers I have had), we had to do a dummy planning application and I did one on behalf of Pooley and O'Malley. My law lecturer said "You've really got into this haven't you" LOL

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016


Jacob Rees Hogg

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

keep punching joe posted:

I'll take a punt and recommend The Sellout by Paul Beatty. It's a satire of racism in modern America, and very funny in an absurdist Johnathan Swift/Kurt Vonnegut sort of way. The plot revolves around a fictional smalltown, that is so embarrassing it gets removed from all maps by the state of California, so the protagonist hatches an insane plot to make it relevant again by bringing back segregation.

If you like absurdist realism then try Convenience Store Woman by Sayaka Murata, about a single middle aged woman, with profound social awkwardness, who has no other desire in the world than to work in a generic mini-market in the city's financial district, but is being pressured by he family to find a husband.

Would also recommend Sisters by Daisy Johnson which is quite an unsettling psychological horror about teenage siblings, set in a extremely depressing English seaside resort. To describe it further would spoil the plot, but it has a creepy David Lynch atmosphere and involves bullying, revenge porn, and social media shaming. Fun stuff.

I loved the Sellout.

And I just finished Murata's new novel Earthlings, which has all the same :spergin: critique of society, but leads up to an ending which is pure :catstare: :wtc: . Not even sure if I'd recommend but interesting.

And my missus is pushing me to read Sisters, so I should soon.

Good recs all round imo

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

East of Ealing I think, where everyone has to get a barcode on their head to be allowed to buy anything. Prophetic - I can see something similar arriving here within the next decade - even if these days it would be an implant or smart card of some sort rather than a barcode on your forehead.
I think that was more Rankin taking the piss out of the sheer amount of that bollocks that was drifting around in the early 80s.

Although so much of it was impossible to tell from parody as it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47TZ9MHI1qg

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

These days I kind of flitter between reading non-fiction & reading a lot of garbage. I've read all the Sharpe books for example. They are rip-roaring fun if you just want a big series to dive into of swashbuckling soldiering.

My swashbuckling recommendation is The Long Ships - jolly viking adventures, that masks a more serious look at medieval religion, politics, and the christianisation of Norway. It also has vikings competing over poetry, and getting all pissy when someone busts out a great poem completely off the cuff because now it means they have to come up with a better one right away.

It's one of those books I recommend to everyone, regardless of their tastes (the other being Blindsight) because it's just a sheer delight.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

Strom Cuzewon posted:

My swashbuckling recommendation is The Long Ships - jolly viking adventures, that masks a more serious look at medieval religion, politics, and the christianisation of Norway. It also has vikings competing over poetry, and getting all pissy when someone busts out a great poem completely off the cuff because now it means they have to come up with a better one right away.

It's one of those books I recommend to everyone, regardless of their tastes (the other being Blindsight) because it's just a sheer delight.

Finally, someone else who's read Blindsight.

e: what did you think of the Rifters trilogy (specifically Starfish?)

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Jeherrin posted:

Finally, someone else who's read Blindsight.

e: what did you think of the Rifters trilogy (specifically Starfish?)

Blindsight/Echopraxia are amazing and I love them. I reread them about once a year.

I really liked the Rifters trilogy since the conceit was super interesting, but then I got to the section that suddenly has really gross needless sadomasochistic torture, I think in one of the Behemoth books. That really soured me on it.

Edit: my book rec is The Emperor's Babe by Bernadine Evaristo. It's about a woman in third century AD London who ends up as the Emperor Severus' lover. It's funny, sometimes moving, sexy as all hell and just really great and unique. Also it's written in verse.

Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Apr 27, 2022

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Jeherrin posted:

Finally, someone else who's read Blindsight.

e: what did you think of the Rifters trilogy (specifically Starfish?)

I've only read Blindsight and Echopraxia. I think Blindsight is the better book, but Echopraxia's neo-Lovecraftian vibe is amazing and I've somehow never seen anything quite like it.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
where's wally is an excellent way to kill a bit of time, insightful too.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

NotJustANumber99 posted:

where's wally is an excellent way to kill a bit of time, insightful too.

you have an unfair advantage though, you can just turn your monitor off

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Dabir posted:

you have an unfair advantage though, you can just turn your monitor off

:discourse:

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



I read some of my Dad's Rankin books when I was much much younger and enjoyed them - but I think I'd get a lot more out of them now, I'll have to find them again.


smellmycheese posted:

Jacob Rees Hogg

Jackof Dees Hogg

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1513793394362966016?t=Inp8PFJaURk1gBJln-XNqA&s=19

How did we get to this point, how can we escape

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

I dont know what any of this is so I guess just getting on with your life rather than living your life on elon's social media site might help.

my next door neighbour is called wally. My first childhood dog was too.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I dont know what any of this is so I guess just getting on with your life rather than living your life on elon's social media site might help.

my next door neighbour is called wally. My first childhood dog was too.

We're all here in the filth together my friend

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/27/boris-johnson-tempting-evil-revealing-ukrainian-soldiers-trained-poland

What the loving gently caress does he think he's doing?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

His best.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Complete irrelevance who helped ruin the UK bleats:

Nigel Farage tweeted

quote:

For years I would gain 30,000 new Twitter followers per month and most tweets would get 5,000+ retweets.

Now I've had zero growth for 18 months & engagement is at an all-time low. It's the same for thousands of others.

Twitter's algorithm now needs to change — and change fast!


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/elon-musk-twitter-nigel-farage-algorithm-b2065929.html

quote:

Mr Farage admitted that it was possible that "my stuff's really dull and boring" and that "I've not nothing interesting to say, no original thoughts whatsoever".

But he added, laughing: "I don't actually think that's the case."

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

quote:

I've had zero growth for 18 months
can happen at that age

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i don't think watching porn is that bad

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
book recs: Catch-22 is my all-time favourite, really emphasises the black comedy involved in being a (relatively) sane person in an insane world

buuuut recently I've been reading lighter stuff for the escapism and the Jack Reacher series has been pretty good for that

bad people do bad things, Reacher beats the poo poo out of them, justice and reason win, hurray all round

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Apr 28, 2022

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
theres like 27 of them or something?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1519352651955245057?t=em6IiCj689d2krDULYebXw&s=19

Shame that these prices keep going up. So sad. Nothing can be done about it. Who keeps raising the cap? Who has the authority to stop them? No idea. Ah well, nevertheless. Stop being silly anyway.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I've read the first 7 of the 21 Patrick O'Brian Aubrey / Maturin novels (on which the film Master & Commander Far Side of The World was based and in which Russell Crowe is absolutely perfect as Jack Aubrey). I've been reading a couple a year for the past 3-4 years. Set in the early 19th century when Britain was at war with France and the US.

I really enjoy them though occasionally they can get a bit too technical on some of the ship terminology so I tend to skip those odd paragraphs and think "ship stuff" to myself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey%E2%80%93Maturin_series

Ornedan
Nov 4, 2009


Cybernetic Crumb
I'll throw in a recommendation for the Clockwork Rocket trilogy on the sci-fi side of things. What if time was fully symmetric with the spatial dimensions? Also gender politics of a shapeshifting blob species.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Bobby Deluxe posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1519352651955245057?t=em6IiCj689d2krDULYebXw&s=19

Shame that these prices keep going up. So sad. Nothing can be done about it. Who keeps raising the cap? Who has the authority to stop them? No idea. Ah well, nevertheless. Stop being silly anyway.

We have to secure an existence for the free market maaan. I mean labour would do the same thing so our opposition supports this whats your problem??? (gently caress)

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Strom Cuzewon posted:

My swashbuckling recommendation is The Long Ships - jolly viking adventures, that masks a more serious look at medieval religion, politics, and the christianisation of Norway. It also has vikings competing over poetry, and getting all pissy when someone busts out a great poem completely off the cuff because now it means they have to come up with a better one right away.


The Long Ships owns and is tremendously good fun to read.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
This day is called the feast of Ed Balls:
They that posted that day, and came safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse them at the name of Ed Balls.
They shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast their neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Ed Balls day:’
They will strip their rap sheet and show their sixers.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Ed Balls day.’

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Anything by George Saunders is pretty good. Speculative/science fiction with lots of humour, irony and genuine pathos, it's very Vonnegutian.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Ed Balls

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply