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Dr Christmas posted:One of those black conservative heroes was literally killed by conservative COVID policies. One of those black conservative heroes was literally killed by conservative COVID policies so far.
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Apr 22, 2022 18:21
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Marjorie testifying live on whether or not she can be disqualified for re-election because of being involved in insurrection. https://twitter.com/i/events/1517528854541193216
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OgNar posted:Marjorie testifying live on whether or not she can be disqualified for re-election because of being involved in insurrection. It's such a weird circumstance because by all rights she should be disqualified because she's now a felon. But since no actual consequences have happened for all that poo poo there's an actual arguement of "if I did the things I am disqualified for then why am I not in jail". Maybe there shouldn't be near diplomatic immunity for elected officials.
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The hearing that doesnt accomplish anything Gaetz seems to be wearing an small arms armor insert. https://twitter.com/emmobeef/status/1517575580090261509
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Wearing ceramic plates in a way where my entire upper body is exposed go own the libs.
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so i've been seeing a lot of cons argue that the reason many other industrialized countries have such good social safety nets and overall better quality of life is because they can afford to spend their budgets on those things as opposed to their militaries because amurka does all their protecting for them. this isn't a new talking point, but i've been hearing it a whole lot more recently than in prior years. the only POSSIBLE country where this seems like it might make sense that i can think of off the top of my head is MAYBE japan, but that's about it. this sounds like a very dumb argument but i figured i'd do my due diligence and ask if there's anything to it.
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Mr Interweb posted:so i've been seeing a lot of cons argue that the reason many other industrialized countries have such good social safety nets and overall better quality of life is because they can afford to spend their budgets on those things as opposed to their militaries because amurka does all their protecting for them. this isn't a new talking point, but i've been hearing it a whole lot more recently than in prior years. the only POSSIBLE country where this seems like it might make sense that i can think of off the top of my head is MAYBE japan, but that's about it. this sounds like a very dumb argument but i figured i'd do my due diligence and ask if there's anything to it. Even Japan has the SDF, which is an army in all but constitutionally-prevented name.
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Well, as Eisenhower said:quote:"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron." But of course, no conservative is *actually* advocating cutting the military budget. They would just rather use the military to invade random countries rather than trying to secure 'world peace' or any hippie bullshit like that they think is being done. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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Mr Interweb posted:so i've been seeing a lot of cons argue that the reason many other industrialized countries have such good social safety nets and overall better quality of life is because they can afford to spend their budgets on those things as opposed to their militaries because amurka does all their protecting for them. this isn't a new talking point, but i've been hearing it a whole lot more recently than in prior years. the only POSSIBLE country where this seems like it might make sense that i can think of off the top of my head is MAYBE japan, but that's about it. this sounds like a very dumb argument but i figured i'd do my due diligence and ask if there's anything to it. We arent doing them because we dont value those things and there is almost no conception of a greater good or social contract in this country. Military budget is irrelevant because our cobbled together alternatives with 37 layers of bureaucracy and means testing and middle men aplenty actually cost MORE than just doing the thing directly, and this isnt limited to healthcare. We arent lacking the money we just do not value human life as a matter of policy and the people who get to decide everything or get elevated to any approved ideology's commentariat would shoot their own mother for a buck. Also for a bit longer we are the worlds reserve currency, we could in fact just print more. We do it all the time! Just only for stuff DC wants, which isnt de-commodification of healthcare or anything else
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Well, as Eisenhower said: Ironic because the military industrial complex as we know it today was birthed under Eisenhower.
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OgNar posted:The hearing that doesnt accomplish anything This is to signify that he thinks he will be stabbed in the back. Typical psycho analogy poo poo
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Apr 23, 2022 17:30
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Also it's low too. Needs to be higher iirc. Typical performative bullshit - and not even doing it correctly.
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I thought the dummy just got the jacket stuck on his chair
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Cranappleberry posted:Ironic because the military industrial complex as we know it today was birthed under Eisenhower. No, that was FDR
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I wonder if Le Pen getting trounced is going to make the pro Putin right do a course correction? The Russian effort in Ukraine is not at all popular.
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Murgos posted:I wonder if Le Pen getting trounced is going to make the pro Putin right do a course correction? Evacuate!? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances. *Explodes*
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oh a non terrible thing happen. well at least things didnt get worse.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:No, that was FDR It was the Civil War. If you read the personal correspondence of people like Grant and Sherman they're always complaining about the war profiteers and lobbyists. If you don't count that, then the banana wars of the early 20th century, the era when we occupied literally every nation south of us in this hemisphere for a fruit company's profits.
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Only catching up with this days later, no longer by Noted Black Conservative Ben Shapiro, do I notice they've misspelled Clarke as Sheriff "Daivd" Now that's the Newsmaximum Quality.
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Apr 26, 2022 20:25
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He also hasn't even been a sheriff since 2017 when he stepped down. These guys really love holding onto their titles.
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OgNar posted:He also hasn't even been a sheriff since 2017 when he stepped down. Fox loves to do this. Grab a bunch of judges who haven't ruled on a case in like 15 years and bill them as "Judge Whothefuck" whenever they show up.
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And now there's a big parade of Trump detritus showing up as "former acting ________ director".
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Mr Interweb posted:so i've been seeing a lot of cons argue that the reason many other industrialized countries have such good social safety nets and overall better quality of life is because they can afford to spend their budgets on those things as opposed to their militaries because amurka does all their protecting for them. I think it's an indication that simply exalting the existing US health care system is bringing diminishing returns, so excuses have to be made as to why the system can't be replaced. Just going "socialized medicine AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" isn't cutting it. This also reminds me how during the 2000s it was a regular theme among conservatives that Scandinavian countries were "socialist" and therefore bad. Lots of liberals in turn began to be like "oh yeah well socialism sounds pretty cool in that case, hooray better health care!" In response, conservatives changed their messaging to "haha silly liberals, Scandinavian countries aren't socialist, what could possibly make you think that? In fact, they have freer markets than our own!" Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Apr 27, 2022 |
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Prager U had a whole bit on how they insisted scandanavian countries weren't socialist because of...reasons? I also hear them mention, I wanna say Sweden "tried socialism but it was a disaster and after abandoning it their economy and standard of living took off". Mr Interweb posted:so i've been seeing a lot of cons argue that the reason many other industrialized countries have such good social safety nets and overall better quality of life is because they can afford to spend their budgets on those things as opposed to their militaries because amurka does all their protecting for them. this isn't a new talking point, but i've been hearing it a whole lot more recently than in prior years. the only POSSIBLE country where this seems like it might make sense that i can think of off the top of my head is MAYBE japan, but that's about it. this sounds like a very dumb argument but i figured i'd do my due diligence and ask if there's anything to it.  "So you care more about some sissy foreigners too lazy to protect themselves rather then taking care of Americans here?" Everything is a zero sum game to them, we can't treat undocumented people with dignity every time you do that some homeless veteran starves to death. We cant have bail reform because every black man released without bail will beeline to the nearest white boomer and rob him on the spot. And so on.
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Mantis42 posted:It was the Civil War. If you read the personal correspondence of people like Grant and Sherman they're always complaining about the war profiteers and lobbyists. If you don't count that, then the banana wars of the early 20th century, the era when we occupied literally every nation south of us in this hemisphere for a fruit company's profits. What happened during the Civil War did prophecy the future military-industrial complex, but it it was evanescent. It's like how we used to have a Secretary of the Navy, because the Navy keeps invading armies off of North America, and a Secretary of War, who only has things to do when we're at war with some assholes.
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Enver Zogha posted:Meanwhile in my experiences I've seen conservatives claim the reason countries like Sweden and Japan can afford to have such social safety nets is because of how "homogeneous" their populations are. Which allows for convenient segueing into far-right rhetoric of "hey white people we could totally have better health care if only the Jews didn't flood our cities with the brown hordes." Japanese safety net isn't even very good. It's basically what if the US had a public option for health insurance, the welfare state hadn't been gutted, and deregulation/finance hadn't eaten everything. Much better than America, but not deserving of being in the same sentence as Sweden. I knew a Swede for a while who'd never shut up about how backward Japan was in comparison to Sweden, and I had to break it to her that I had moved to Japan, in part, because things were much better here than in the US. Sure, if I had my pick it would have been nice to gently caress off somewhere else, but I happened to be able to be a native English speaker that could speak and read Japanese so it was much easier to move to Japan than anywhere else.
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Enver Zogha posted:Meanwhile in my experiences I've seen conservatives claim the reason countries like Sweden and Japan can afford to have such social safety nets is because of how "homogeneous" their populations are. Which allows for convenient segueing into far-right rhetoric of "hey white people we could totally have better health care if only the Jews didn't flood our cities with the brown hordes." I remember Charlton Heston saying something similar in Bowling for Columbine related to gun violence.
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Enver Zogha posted:Meanwhile in my experiences I've seen conservatives claim the reason countries like Sweden and Japan can afford to have such social safety nets is because of how "homogeneous" their populations are. Which allows for convenient segueing into far-right rhetoric of "hey white people we could totally have better health care if only the Jews didn't flood our cities with the brown hordes." Which is hilarious because if we had the same kind of cultural settings that allowed for cheaper social safety nets like healthcare in east asia then these guys would be crying about being bullied. Oh, someone just walked up to you and told you that you're fat and ugly, and that you are dragging the net down by being fat, ugly, and expensive as a result. And you just have to take it until you make enough lifestyle changes that it stops because the response from others will be "why are you upset, they are right" Welfare benefits? You mean "living off family memebers" benefits because taking money from the government is bad for face? Etc etc etc
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Enver Zogha posted:Meanwhile in my experiences I've seen conservatives claim the reason countries like Sweden and Japan can afford to have such social safety nets is because of how "homogeneous" their populations are. Which allows for convenient segueing into far-right rhetoric of "hey white people we could totally have better health care if only the Jews didn't flood our cities with the brown hordes." That's just them admitting they wouldn't mind a better social safety net, but they just can't bear to share it with Black and brown people.
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That's fine, just let them see if they can bear sharing the inside of a fishing net with a black bear and a brown bear instead. I think that's a fine compromise.
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I heard some idiot talking on Fox News about Elon Musk moving Tesla's HQ to Texas and made the comment "Imagine how bad a state has to be to chase out the smartest man in the world." All I could do was laugh to keep myself from becoming depressed.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I heard some idiot talking on Fox News about Elon Musk moving Tesla's HQ to Texas and made the comment "Imagine how bad a state has to be to chase out the smartest man in the world." All I could do was laugh to keep myself from becoming depressed. Musk is another one of those "A stupid person's idea of what a smart person is" types of people.
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Larryb posted:From what I hear even his pillows are kind of crappy. I believe the only reason this man has a platform at all is because of Trump They're fine, but nothing to write home about. Slept on some a few Thanksgivings ago at a girlfriends uncle's house, and if he hadn't told us they were Mypillows I never would have known. Said uncle in now balls deep in Q stuff, so maybe they release some kind of slow acting mind poison
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Your Gay Uncle posted:They're fine, but nothing to write home about. Slept on some a few Thanksgivings ago at a girlfriends uncle's house, and if he hadn't told us they were Mypillows I never would have known. It's probably gonna come out in like 10 years that the reason they're so cheap is they're made out of like purestrain asbestos or something.
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nine-gear crow posted:It's probably gonna come out in like 10 years that the reason they're so cheap is they're made out of like purestrain asbestos or something. I thought they were like $40 per pillow tho
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Epic High Five posted:I thought they were like $40 per pillow tho $40 for a so-called orthopedic sleep improving pillow is a steal these days.
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