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I hope Mattea keeps going just so Ken has to keep coming out with a monologue of random facts about whatever number of wins she has. Last night was hysterical, he just kept going on about number 16.
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christmas boots posted:I am legitimately confounded that this is the most divisive contestant we've had in a while. Goons got comfortable making GBS threads on contestants personalities lately… or foreheads, as the case may be.
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Apr 28, 2022 13:52
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Zesty posted:Goons got comfortable making GBS threads on contestants personalities lately… or foreheads, as the case may be. Or contestants got weirdly comfortable adding nonstop interruptions to the game. Mattea's a great person and I hope she keeps winning. I also hope someone takes her aside to say to stop going on for 20 seconds after giving a correct response to something, or talking through all of the remaining time for the other contestants to ring in after an incorrect one who seem to be waiting for the cue of silence that they're able to do so (which particularly bugs me since it seems dangerously close to being against the rules and like it's inevitably going to be exploited by the next James as a strategy to reduce other contestants picking up a clue they flubbed). They aren't mutually exclusive concepts unless you're a goon taking valid criticism of behavior that is not normal for this show and calling it a personal attack on someone. Again, I point you in the direction of Amy as the prime example of how you can be a superchamp, have a great personality and be really fun, and yet not do this poo poo.
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Apr 28, 2022 14:32
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they're still getting to all the clues so i don't really give a poo poo 
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Apr 28, 2022 14:35
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Maybe Mattea knows exactly what she's doing and is an evil mastermind.
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Apr 28, 2022 14:44
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MokBa posted:Maybe Mattea knows exactly what she's doing and is an evil mastermind. 
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Apr 28, 2022 14:53
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You've genuinely written way too much about this issue.
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Apr 28, 2022 15:08
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I like her but I agree that talking after missing a clue--a time when other contestants are possibly still thinking about the question and/or waiting for the silence cue to ring in--is really bad. I don't think she's doing it intentionally since it fits her style.
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Apr 28, 2022 15:56
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Yesterday would have been a great time for her to bet it all on FJ. If she bets any amount and gets it wrong, she loses and wins either 1,000 or 2,000 dollars. The difference between those two is nothing compared to the $320K she's already won. But if she gets it right, that's an additional $27,200 and she looks even cooler. Also, I think it's probably easier trying to come up with the correct response when someone next to you is rambling on about the why they gave the wrong answer.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:17
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She'd never do something like that, way too risk averse. I think we've seen her wager everything....just a couple of times? (not counting when she finds the first DD on the second clue like yetserday) Counterpoint: A lot of those times I've had the answer on the tip of my tongue and her rambling was incredibly distracting and I didn't come up with it in time. I can't imagine it's easier if you're at a podium under pressure trying to do it.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:37
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BaronVonVaderham posted:She'd never do something like that, way too risk averse. I think we've seen her wager everything....just a couple of times? (not counting when she finds the first DD on the second clue like yetserday)
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Apr 28, 2022 16:38
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Orzo posted:But it's the exact same risk as betting $1, in this case. If she gets it wrong, she loses, no matter what she wagered (unless it was $0). Oh I 100% agree with you, but I'm rational to a fault and bad wagering drives me apeshit. But risk-averse contestants don't see that and only see "avoid losing these digits on the scoreboard". Though I'd amend that: She does need to take third place into account and wager to still beat her if she gets it wrong and 2nd place gets it wrong. Otherwise yeah your fate is 100% controlled by your response if 2nd place gets it right so wagering anything over $1 is identical to wagering $1 if you get it wrong and he gets it right.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:46
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Oh I 100% agree with you, but I'm rational to a fault and bad wagering drives me apeshit. But risk-averse contestants don't see that and only see "avoid losing these digits on the scoreboard". Yeah I guess I didn't consider the possibility that she can still win if both her and 2nd place get it wrong. And there's the risk that the 2nd place player bets stupidly where they get it right but didn't bet enough. BaronVonVaderham posted:Counterpoint: A lot of those times I've had the answer on the tip of my tongue and her rambling was incredibly distracting and I didn't come up with it in time. I can't imagine it's easier if you're at a podium under pressure trying to do it. I was joking about this. I don't think she's doing it as strategy, but it's got to be working to her advantage. Like a cousin to jumping around the board and saying a short version of the the category and saying it over the host to keep the other players off balance.
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Groundskeeper Silly posted:Yeah I guess I didn't consider the possibility that she can still win if both her and 2nd place get it wrong. And there's the risk that the 2nd place player bets stupidly where they get it right but didn't bet enough. That's when you can end up going around in circles though, if you try to wager around the opponent doing something dumb and try to metagame it. Best you can do is wager enough so if you both get it wrong but 3rd place doubles up (they shouldn't wager that much though, since their only shot is both of you getting it wrong and killing yourselves with high wagers, they're playing for 2nd place) you're still in the lead. I think the reason bad wagering bugs me is I love this part of the game where a good strategy can really make or break you, but that's the poker player in me talking.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:14
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It was $27,200 - $13,600 - $8,400. If I'm Mattea (and am not just looking for the highest floor of cash, which is a $1 bet) I probably wager $10,399 to lock out third place and still win since second place is almost certainly gonna wager it all.BaronVonVaderham posted:or talking through all of the remaining time for the other contestants to ring in after an incorrect one who seem to be waiting for the cue of silence that they're able to do so (which particularly bugs me since it seems dangerously close to being against the rules and like it's inevitably going to be exploited by the next James as a strategy to reduce other contestants picking up a clue they flubbed). 100% agree with this, I don't think she's doing it intentionally but it's still disrespectful to the other contestants. I don't care if she wants to babble for 30 seconds when deciding on her DD wagers though, so long as it doesn't impact clues left on the board Poque fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Apr 28, 2022 17:22
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Poque posted:I don't think she's doing it intentionally but it's still disrespectful to the other contestants. Exactly. This is why I put it on the people running the show. It's on them to provide appropriate corrective feedback. But maybe they're trying and she's ignoring it, we can never know It's also not just her, I want to add. It's been a general trend in their being way more lax with contestant chatter. Some in here have also noted their allowing shout-outs in Final. The way they're running the show seems to have become more lax, whether that's intended or just something that developed as a result of all the staff shuffle chaos. BaronVonVaderham fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Apr 28, 2022 |
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Apr 28, 2022 17:34
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The Dave posted:You've genuinely written way too much about this issue. And then posted quadruple the amount since.
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Zesty posted:And then posted quadruple the amount since. Oh no people are discussing Jeopardy in the Jeopardy thread!
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Apr 28, 2022 17:52
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there's no guarantee that second place will get the answer right (meaning a $1 wager would win in a wrong/wrong scenario) and there's also no guarantee that second place will bet it all (even though it's obviously correct). So the $1 hedges against both a wagering and answering mistake while still allowing an outright guaranteed win if Mattea gets it correct. People make wildly incorrect errors in FJ wagering all the time but this wasn't one of them. (also to pre-empt "well why $1 and not $0", because final jeopardy correctness is correlated between players)
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Apr 28, 2022 17:53
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Spokes posted:there's no guarantee that second place will get the answer right (meaning a $1 wager would win in a wrong/wrong scenario) and there's also no guarantee that second place will bet it all (even though it's obviously correct). So the $1 hedges against both a wagering and answering mistake while still allowing an outright guaranteed win if Mattea gets it correct. People make wildly incorrect errors in FJ wagering all the time but this wasn't one of them. yeah wasn't there a game just a week or two ago where a contestant would have beat mattea if they had wagered everything?
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Apr 28, 2022 18:09
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Oh no people are discussing Jeopardy in the Jeopardy thread! Sorry that this contestant isn’t acting normal enough for you. They are, afterall, Trivia Bots here for entertaining us and should behave to the highest of your personal standards. But maybe you’ve written enough essays on the topic by now?
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Zesty posted:Sorry that this contestant isn’t acting normal enough for you. They are, afterall, Trivia Bots here for entertaining us and should behave to the highest of your personal standards. But maybe you’ve written enough essays on the topic by now? See that little scroll bar on the right? You can just scroll by. Or does someone talking too much suddenly annoy you now? Wraith of J.O.I. posted:yeah wasn't there a game just a week or two ago where a contestant would have beat mattea if they had wagered everything? I think so. One of her earlier games, maybe 6 or 7?
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Zesty posted:Sorry that this contestant isn’t acting normal enough for you. They are, afterall, Trivia Bots here for entertaining us and should behave to the highest of your personal standards. But maybe you’ve written enough essays on the topic by now? I don't care if a contestant is quirky but I also don't need to hear every thought in their head about the pros and cons of every DD wager. I want to watch Jeopardy not Mattea's TED Talk about Mattea.
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Apr 28, 2022 18:32
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BaronVonVaderham posted:See that little scroll bar on the right? You can just scroll by. Or does someone talking too much suddenly annoy you now? If you want to vanguard ideas like “this woman’s personality isn’t normal enough” or “this woman’s name isn’t normal enough” (is there a pattern going on here?) then yeah, I’m going to mock you when you hyperfixate or pick a new thing to be lovely about.
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Apr 28, 2022 18:37
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Exactly. This is why I put it on the people running the show. It's on them to provide appropriate corrective feedback. I asked Christina (my college classmate) about all of the chattering, and she said while the producers didn't explicitly encourage it, they very much did not discourage it.
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Timby posted:I asked Christina (my college classmate) about all of the chattering, and she said while the producers didn't explicitly encourage it, they very much did not discourage it. Cool to get some insider info on that. I'm always curious what's been going on behind the scenes since Richards got the boot.
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Unkempt posted:WAFFLE HOUSE That was one of the most boring jeopardy story I had ever heard unless I blacked out from boredom during it and missed some interesting punchline
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That was one of the most boring jeopardy story I had ever heard unless I blacked out from boredom during it and missed some interesting punchline The next one was "I used to work with kids but now I work at a casino." Not a great story day!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That was one of the most boring jeopardy story I had ever heard unless I blacked out from boredom during it and missed some interesting punchline "I meet my friends at Waffle House on Saturdays" To be honest, I'd probably run with something like "I plan my grocery shopping around going down Aldi's Aisle of Shame"
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i had an incredible story i wanted to tell: one day i was driving home from work and went through the carl's jr drive thru (hardees for those east of the mississippi). i pulled up to the window to pay but i couldn't find my credit card. so i say to the cashier "sorry, just a second. I can't find my credit card." and she says "john?" and i say "how do you know my name" and she says "you left your card here yesterday." but no they went with me getting chased out of nara park by deer instead
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Spokes posted:i had an incredible story i wanted to tell: Two good stories! Now this is a person who should be a multi-day champ! So many stories somehow involve "I watch Jeopardy" or "I traveled somewhere but nothing of note really happened".
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Should have given the deer your credit card
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1glitch0 posted:I don't care if a contestant is quirky but I also don't need to hear every thought in their head about the pros and cons of every DD wager. I want to watch Jeopardy not Mattea's TED Talk about Mattea. I actually do want to watch Mattea’s TED Talk about Mattea, so I guess to each their own.
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I got the distinct impression that a producer asked her to dial it back a bit yesterday, because she was much more direct and restrained
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"So I understand you had something of an existential crisis, Mr. Samsa? Tell us about that" "That's right, Ken. I woke up one morning and found that I had been transformed into a giant insect."
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https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/1520108155027349504 Spoilers for the contestant interviews!
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Pre-empted by the NFL Draft. In related news, Harry Friedman either wants to be on the Manningcast or a glutton for punishment. https://deadline.com/2022/04/college-bowl-renewed-season-2-nbc-1235012058/
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I cannot comprehend how you could ever come to the wrong answer on that Final question. It was so obvious I was second guessing just because it seemed too obvious.
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