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Nodosaur posted:It's not that Miyamoto hates story. He just doesn't think it should be dictated to the player separate from gameplay. sakurai also thinks this but as a result gave us his kid icarus game instead of a billion NSMB and NSMB style games
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Electric Phantasm posted:They're family just like all his minions. The ones he repeatedly sends to their deaths and has impersonate him over dangerous lava pits?
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Apr 29, 2022 01:33
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bowser does that to bowser jr too
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Motto posted:sakurai also thinks this but as a result gave us his kid icarus game instead of a billion NSMB and NSMB style games The directors of the NSMB games have been Shigeyuki Asuke (the first, Wii), Yusuke Amano (NSMB2), and Masataka Takemoto (NSMBU). The producers of the games have been varying combinations of Takashi Tezuka and Hiroyuki Kimura. Miyamoto has, at best, only been involved in them at a distance.
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Macaluso posted:Noted boring and sterile game Mario Odyssey where you could put your hat on Bowser and take control of him to escape the core of the moon while J-Pop plays Miyamoto was hands-off for Odyssey, with Koizumi as producer (interview link). Funny thing, remember when I said earlier that Miyamoto didn't want Link's Awakening to be made? That game's story was done by the same Koizumi. Miyamoto not being involved also mean that the Mario peace sign could be sneakily added back in, as it's a random chance for Mario to strike that pose when he collects a power moon. For more on that, you can watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3-Lyj5ffo Apologies to the Sonic The Hedgehog (Presented By SEGA) thread on all the Mario posting 
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Apr 29, 2022 01:38
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To be fair it's not like there's a general Mario thread (another win for Sonic)
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Mario and Sonic at the Megathread 2022
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when are they gonna make a dang winter olympics game that doesn't require a wiimote
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Macaluso posted:Noted boring and sterile game Mario Odyssey where you could put your hat on Bowser and take control of him to escape the core of the moon while J-Pop plays well yeah mario odyssey was praised when it came out for being a breath of fresh air for the series that brought back a lot of the energy that had been missing since Galaxy 1. Galaxy 2 and 3D Land are fantastic games but they very much felt like they were going out of their way to wind back the clock to the good ol' days. Nintendo has started to loosen up a little bit recently but there was a period of time where they were trying aggressively to make the Mario brand completely uniform across all the games, with a whole laundry list of arbitrary rules for what was and wasn't allowed in a Mario game. it's one of the things that made paper mario sticker star so contentious Augus fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 29, 2022 |
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Apr 29, 2022 05:33
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Sticker Star broke people’s brains with how terrible it was. Probably did more damage to Paper Mario and the Mario RPG series than Sonic 06 ever did to the Sonic series.
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I think the problem is Color Splash wasn't much better and Origami King still has stripped out the RPG elements that made people like Paper Mario and TTYD.
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Apr 29, 2022 06:17
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Also had a villian for whom his "I hate toads, they look all the same!" screed, which is supposed to be a bad thing for him to believe (and it is), is bolstered by the fact that all toads in that game are, infact, the same base toad they've used since Sticker Star.
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Apr 29, 2022 06:50
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The whole Miyamoto thing is also why both Paper and Mario & Luigi got a lot more limited in scope with their cast and stories. Part of it is because he sees Mario as a player avatar instead of a character in a narrative. Oxyclean posted:I think the problem is Color Splash wasn't much better and Origami King still has stripped out the RPG elements that made people like Paper Mario and TTYD.
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Apr 29, 2022 07:01
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It's not a peace sign it's V for victory, a remnant of post-war ally reconstruction. Mario flashes it because he just murdered a bunch of troopas in what is ostensibly a war zone. Not because he established peace in the level.
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One the one hand, Miyamoto's level of control meant Mario's never released a Sonic 06 level of disaster, but on the other it lead to a lot of very bland, safe and forgettable games. There's so many Nintendo games in the last 15 years that by themselves are great, but are nowhere near the best in the series because they are so risk-averse. It feels like people who work on games needing his approval are afraid to do anything different in case it makes him furious and he throws out months of their work. I still love nearly all the games he directed (which he sadly stopped doing after Super Mario 64) and it sounded like he had a pretty good influence on the games Nintendo hired western game devs to work on like DKC, Star Fox and Metroid Prime. He still was an rear end in a top hat though, he made the Star Fox devs work in a basement and came in to smoke just to make it unpleasant for them.
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Dieting Hippo posted:He's very much a diva inside Nintendo. One story is about Mario giving a peace sign. This was done a lot in earlier games and promo art, but Miyamoto hated it. It felt to him as if Mario was more "kiddie" when the peace sign went up. The last instance of that peace sign was in SM64, and was absent until it made a brief appearance in Odyssey. Mario actually has a 1/3 chance of doing the peace sign with every singular Moon in Odyssey, otherwise it'll be the Mario 64 fist or the Sunshine open palm. This does mean you can play rock-paper-scissors with Mario.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Naka was a great programmer who should never have been anywhere near management roles but unfortunately he knew what he was worth and had a tantrum and refused to work on Sonic 2 until Sega bought him a Ferrari and that was the start of all that downfall. If Yu Suzuki didn't get a Ferrari (or a Tomcat jet-fighter) this world is way more unjust than I already fear.
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That loving Sned posted:He still was an rear end in a top hat though, he made the Star Fox devs work in a basement and came in to smoke just to make it unpleasant for them.
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Palmtree Panic posted:Sticker Star broke people’s brains with how terrible it was. I don't remember Sticker Star being a buggy, unplayable mess. SyntheticPolygon posted:Who's the other one? Arlo? Willo567 fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Apr 29, 2022 |
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Apr 29, 2022 14:30
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Sticker Star had that bit where you beat Kamek with a sandel and that will always redeem it in my heart.
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Sticker Star is a polished turd. Its not a buggy mess, but it is a chore to play with inane gameplay mechanics.
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sonic 06 is very playable
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I beat Sonic 06 and that's more I can say compared to Sticker Star
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Apr 29, 2022 16:48
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Sonic Heardle is a freebie today.
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sticker star is the single game i most regret buying and i bought it because i heard about its reputation and wanted to know what it was like
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I feel mildly self-conscious to be asking this, but what's the best way to play the Sonic Adventure games now? Are the PC ports better than what's available on Xbox, or are they very comparable? Is Heroes available anywhere other than PC? I've got a Sonic obsessed kid, and after we're done working through Sonic Jam, I need something to hop to next. I guess after these we'll also be playing Sonic 2006, assuming that I can find a disk without paying a fortune and have a working 360. I did snag Unleashed, which got a really nice Series S/X patch and runs at 60fps now.
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Isn’t 06 still available digitally (though it could be exclusive to PSNow, I’m not sure)?
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I haven’t played a Sonic game in forever and I want to play a 3D one. I saw Colors is on sale, should I get it?
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Smirking_Serpent posted:I haven’t played a Sonic game in forever and I want to play a 3D one. I saw Colors is on sale, should I get it? Colors is good, yes
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Apr 29, 2022 18:20
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When I wanna play Sonic Adventure, I get out my Dreamcast, so I can't help you there. I would call Colors a fun game and a good game, buuuut not a great Sonic game.
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keanu reeves should voice amy
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Palmtree Panic posted:Sonic Heardle is a freebie today. I felt like an idiot when I saw the answer for yesterday's. I knew it was from a menu of some sort, it was a song I heard a lot but for the life of me I couldn't place it. It was from the Mega Collection. I played that A LOT.
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I just want to take a minute to thank god in heaven for Sonic Mania and the associated soundtrack. I wanna live in it.
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Colors is arguably the only other serviceable 3D Sonic game that isn’t Generations. Like, it’s good. Well made even. But it’s short, a little gimmicky, and the jumping physics are god awful. Still it’s like one of two 3D Sonics I’d tell an interested party “yeah, go ahead and check it out”. I love Adventure in my heart of hearts but I’d only ever recommend it at this point to someone interested in more after exhausting Generations and Colors with the caveat of “it was jank as hell even in its day”.
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Apr 29, 2022 18:56
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Adventure is still my favorite 3D Sonic thqh
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Don't recommend generations to somebody who's never played the adventure games, they will have no context for any of the cool moments like seeing that loving truck show up in the background for the first time in city escape Generations is your reward for getting through years of bad games. How can you appreciate a trophy for a race you never ran?
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Sonic Heroes is good imo
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Sonic Heroes could have been the perfect fusion of Tony Hawk/DmC gameplay and speedy platforming but the combat is overlong and underbaked.
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Has anyone played Mania with the Switch Genesis controller? Pretty much ordering a controller for Mania and Origins.
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