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Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
We play bigger, 4 player games all the time. Bigger games don't really present any issues, as long as you have enough order dice/tokens/markers, etc. You can do waves or outflanking if you're worried about having enough space.

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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


I recently won a big job lot of miniatures in a local auction that included what appears to be most of a 15mm Napoleonic French army. I'd guess the age of the miniatures as probably being from the late 70s or early 80s based off of all the old GW and Ral Partha historicals that were included (I have over a hundred of the early Perry sculpted Dark Ages and Medieval GW miniatures from the same auction). The way they are based is not readily familiar to me and I was wondering if it stands out to anyone else? I am by no means a historical wargames expert, so I make no great claims to knowledge here.





There are several boxes like the ones pictured, different types of infantry, artillery, cavalry and even what appear to be allied Danish and Bavarian detachments as well.

Also mixed in are what appear to be a ton of 6mm ACW minis and other armies, including a solid lead cavalry fort. Pics if folks want to see 'em.

Fearless fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Apr 30, 2022

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
:justpost:

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
Could be a dozen or so different old school napoleonics ruleset basings, honestly. Nice find!

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

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Always be posting those classic figures my man!

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Alright. You asked for it...

First up are the very much non-historicals, some GW Warmaster Carrion and GW Battlefleet Gothic Ork escorts:





And now the historicals:

28mm Natal Native Infantry (another lot that I did not win presumably had more British soldiers in it from the second Anglo-Zulu War):



28mm Mahdist War British:



28mm Egyptian Infantry:



28mm carts, cannons and draft animals (yes, these are metal and pretty hefty):



What I suspect are some 1/72 metal 18th century gun crews-- I found more elsewhere later on and combined them in this box with four cannons that seem to match them as well:



A mix of 28mm Victorian French, British and African people on camels:



More of the aforementioned gun crews:



A mix of miniatures here in a mix of scales. 28mm British Victorian troops, a 28mm Ral Partha Byzantine general minus his horse, and some smaller scale German marines.



This one was full of 1/72 and smaller scale artillery (including a gatling minus its carriage, the four larger guns seem to be the same scale as those gunners so they live with them now), a mix of 6mm ACW infantry and cavalry and other odds and ends:



This was a fun box. It is full of a bunch of very old Citadel historicals, some of which might be some of the earliest professional sculpts from the Perry Twins, some Ral Partha Greeks, Japanese and a bunch of barbarians from an unknown maker. Some of the Ral Partha Greeks are sculpted with tiny little 1/72 scale peckers:



Leonidas the Two-Speared Spartan NWS:



This box was labelled "10 horses," and let me tell you folks, it absolutely delivered. My thinking is that most of them are associated with artillery or perhaps the cartage from earlier:



These are some old RAFM Seven Years War Indigenous American/Canadian warriors:



A box of 1/72 "plastic people" that look to me like the kinds of bulk, low detailed humans that you use for adding people to architectural models (I used to build these years ago), or for detailing a model railroad layout. This is one of two boxes that had plastic in it, literally everything else was metal.



This box was labelled "Muslims" but I suspect they're actually Afghan tribesmen that were probably meant to be matched with some of the British soldiers in the various boxes.



Here is a box of four different models in substantial numbers, all of which are early Perry sculpts for Citadel:



The aforementioned four:



And a broader photo of the variety of all the Citadel stuff that I have detected. In all, I have probably just north of 110 different vintage Citadel 28mm historicals:



The lead fort, seems to be 6mm and probably goes with the ACW figures and the terrain included elsewhere. There are wall sections, towers, a gate house and interior buildings too:



Some distinctly WW2 looking bunkers, but also a bunch of lead hills and barricades:



More 6mm terrain, mostly little tents and barricades/gabions:



And some 28mm Ral Partha Varangian Guards:





And now the Napoleonics:







So it looks to me like I have a functional 15mm Napoleonic French army, right down to Napoleon himself and a generic Marshal (but I am going to imagine it's Davout).

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Lead hills :psyduck:

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


I would've gone with "There' lead in them thar hills" personally :colbert:

Nice find though!

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.

JcDent posted:

Lead hills :psyduck:

Ahahaha, I said this out loud while going through the post

Did foam not exist????

Great post though, love to see those pics

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
Historical historicals

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Anarcho-Commissar posted:

Historical historicals

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Hell yeah zombie birbs and krump frigates

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Aside from the GW stuff, which is only from the late 90s, everything in there was from the late 70s or very early 80s.

And yes, when I found them, I did remark that there is lead in them thar hills.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

is it actually lead or is it pewter? lead seems insane, even for the 70s lol

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


hot cocoa on the couch posted:

is it actually lead or is it pewter? lead seems insane, even for the 70s lol

It is way, way too soft to be pewter or white metal. I wouldn't be shocked if there is some tin or antimony in the metal to improve flow-out in the moulds, but almost all of these are extremely soft.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


With the way the bases are tagged, it almost makes me wonder if it wasn't someone that just liked painting figs, but didn't play games with them. There was a suuuuuuuper old dude in the area when I first started messing with l'il mans that was mostly into scale trains, but had a bunch of WWII stuff that was tagged kinda like that.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Really want to play Napoleonics against some incredibly crusty old fart and insist my units are 'horses' with no further explanation

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

MikeCrotch posted:

Really want to play Napoleonics against some incredibly crusty old fart and insist my units are 'horses' with no further explanation

These are my light horse. And these are my heavy horse - they are based on lead hills.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





MikeCrotch posted:

Really want to play Napoleonics against some incredibly crusty old fart and insist my units are 'horses' with no further explanation

I think you have the best red text I have ever seen on this site.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

IncredibleIgloo posted:

I think you have the best red text I have ever seen on this site.

If you're American a pepperami is a slim Jim

the recipe also doesn't exist

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


There's light-horse, heavy-horse, pointy-horse and get-off-your-horse-to-shoot-but-sometimes-stay-on-your-horse-and-light-horse-instead

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
remember to reduce your dragons to 3/4 when they foot to allow for horse-holders

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Don't forget the horses pulling guns and the other horses pulling guns, but slower.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

90s Cringe Rock posted:

remember to reduce your dragons to 3/4 when they foot to allow for horse-holders

Lol if you haven’t spent way too much money at Brigade minis for horse holding dragoons and never used them in games. Like have you even lived?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Currently painting artillery tower and mounted infantry 38M Botonds that I doubt will ever be fielded, and I feel attacked. Useless minis are an important part of any force. One day, I might play on a tennis court and need these fuckers. Trucks, horses, same deal.

Kinda jealous of my wife's soviets and their enormous amount of trucks. Hungarians it's just Botond, Botond, another Botond, oops all Botonds.

Also got some Panhard 178s for my french 2DLM waiting in the wings. It's weird trucks all the way down.

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 13:50 on May 1, 2022

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden

Fearless posted:

Don't forget the horses pulling guns and the other horses pulling guns, but slower.

You mean the horses pulling guns and carrying the people shooting the guns compared to the horses pulling guns but not the people shooting the guns.

Why don’t the horses ever get to shoot the guns?

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Poor Freckles; thought of artillery tables and died.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Horses thus: rotund, fearless in a charge, not afraid of loud bangs

Horses now: weak limbed, flighty, scared of a mere ant, afraid to bite a man's face off

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

zokie posted:

You mean the horses pulling guns and carrying the people shooting the guns compared to the horses pulling guns but not the people shooting the guns.

Why don’t the horses ever get to shoot the guns?
Staff Sergeant Reckless gave it a good effort.

Signal
Dec 10, 2005

Anyone have any advice for starting Saga? Specifically vikings and age of magic.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Signal posted:

Anyone have any advice for starting Saga? Specifically vikings and age of magic.

I consider myself a beginner Saga player, I've played a handful of Age of Vikings and Age of Magic games.

Vanilla vikings looks like the simplest force, but I've actually found them to be hard to play well. But when you start out you should not worry too much about getting trounced, wrapping your head around the activations and battle boards is more important. Personally I think I like Age of Magic more than Age of Vikings. To me, it shows that AoV was their first game, and for each new game the battle boards become more interesting and more diversified. I won my first AoM tourney after just a few test games before, but I also had a lot of help from more experienced players to tool my Kingdoms army. Army building is a pretty big part of the game, and if you feel like the game is a tad boring or disjointed it might simply be your army list not suiting what you're trying to do with your battle board. Swapping a few units can make the game a lot more enjoyable.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Signal posted:

Anyone have any advice for starting Saga? Specifically vikings and age of magic.

I am just starting Saga as well. I picked up the rules and Age of Vikings, which were tough to find, actually. I got them from Badger Games.

I am going to start with Anglo-Danes (and build enough for Anglo-Saxons down the road) and Vikings, so I ordered the Vikings Victrix plastic bag, one pack of plastic Huscarls, and one pack of Late Saxon / Anglo Danes plastics. I got 2 packs of the Dark Age archers/slingers. I'm sure you can go much cheaper, but the pandemic has been pretty good to my wife and I and staying at home painting minis is a really safe activity so i don't mind spending a bit. I can say too the pics I saw comparing Victrix to the other manufacturers don't look pretty for the other ones.

These Victrix minis are really, really incredible. I only have Perry ACW to compare them to, but I really like them a lot. The weapons are pretty spindly though so I did go ahead and order some wire to make spears if I have to.

I got the dice (Bagdergames, Cottonjim, and Brigade Games all have them) and I got some dogs from Cottonjim for warlord bases.

The only place I could reliably find measuring sticks was from Sarissa Precision in England.

I got all the minis straight from Victrix BECAUSE they have Little Big Men Studios shields & banners (the shields are exclusive to Victrix store). The shields fit Victrix specifically. They are extremely easy to put on; they are self adhesive with a water transfer on the back. You just stick them on, paint on a little water, then slide the white transfer piece off. They are perfect. The holes for the boss are even cut out already.

Lastly I got MDF bases, I prefer MDF for the weight. I got 25mm for Levy/Warriors, 30mm for Hearthguard, and 40mm for warlords. I got them from Phalanx Consortium and had them drill 4mm holes in the center of each base so that I could put a magnet in there. I got kitchen magnet roll and put it down inside the case I got for these minis. They won't survive being thrown out of a moving vehicle, but just for moving around, they won't budge.

I am not a good painter at all, by no stretch of the imagination, but I have gotten to the point of being really happy with what I can do. I went ahead and made a fen for Saga, and I have a couple things coming from Fogou miniatures for terrain. This is my first half point of Anglo-Dane warriors.



What I am hoping for is that with Sharp Practice as my narrative game from my preferred time period, I have Saga and Bolt Action to flesh out my options. I know a lot of people who will only play something that is really really interesting to them.

Springfield Fatts
May 24, 2010
Pillbug
Goddamn I wish Studio Tomahawk would wake up and realize you can sell pdfs of rulebooks now.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


LOL, that is the hill a lot of crusty grognard companies (using that word loosely as they are likely 1-3 people) have chosen to die on.

Guess filling the orders that came in that week for rules are is the thing that gets them out of bed every morning.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Isn't it mostly because of the battle boards? I could see keeping those physical and having a digital rulebook but grogs are gonna grog.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Battle boards feel like the easiest thing to just print. You don't even care that much about the quality, just fire it off, play a game, throw it in the bin. Whatever.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Hell, I owned the OG battle boards (and the new ones, just haven't played with them) and I photoshopped them to have just D6 for the abilities and printed those. If they had sold PDFs, I coulda saved like two whole steps!

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Doing that would have made my group's just using regular D6 marginally easier alright. I like how flavourful the dice are, but they aren't even slightly convenient.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


It didn’t help that those dice were super-hard to get for a decent amount of time. The impetus for making the D6 boards was after the going rate on the dice was too high to pass up.

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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
It's not hard to remember the odds of rolling whatever and just use D6 anyway, but it definitely makes things go quicker when you can just see the pips.

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