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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Konec Hry posted:

As a sidenote, in the Swedish youth school we have two forms of the subject
”Swedish”, Swedish (svenska, sve) and Swedish as a second language (svenska som andraspråk, sva).

The content of the courses are/should be the same, with the latter one having a more comparative style of teaching. For example when you’re teaching grammar a typical sva-assignment would be like ”In what ways are Swedish grammar and your mother tongues grammar similar and in what ways are they different?”

Is it the same way in i.e. Denmark?

Edit: I tried to do some research, is ”Dansk som andetsprog” similar?
From what I gather, the primary focus is on making the acquisition on better language skills seen as valuable, which includes also making them better at their first language - and treating it as valuable in itself. As opposed to treating it as a waste of time that meant they didn't learn a useful language instead. This includes using their primary languages in class, as well as having the kids teach each other parts of their primary languages - whether that's Arabic, German, or Danish. If there's some comparative stuff going on, I think it's more unconscious, with students just getting a better sense of learning language from knowing two different languages.

This is all pretty far from my area of expertise though, the above is basically just based on the stuff on this page:
https://emu.dk/grundskole/dansk-som-andetsprog

A more thorough description can be found here:
https://emu.dk/sites/default/files/2020-09/GSK_Vejledning_Dansk%20som%20andetsprog_supplerende.pdf

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Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



BonHair posted:

Nuke Swedish cities? As a Dane, this seems like a good solution, although to a different problem.
Giving the Swedish police Davy Crockett's to defend themselves from criminals is not only a good idea it is their right to be able to defend themselves and society from any and all threats.

It will serve as a deterrent. If you know that any crime might be met with a tactical nuke people will think twice before even thinking about committing a crime. Who would risk having their city nuked to commit crimes: no one. MAD has worked successfully for nation states for 70 years. It is time to bring that strategy to policing.

Now some of you might say that arming the police with tactical nuclear weapons would quickly turn Sweden into an apocalyptic radiated hellscape. And to that I say those who would give up justice for petty environmental protections deserve neither.

Japan is a flourishing country with extremely low amounts of crime and they had the atom bomb dropped on them twice and had radiation issues with the Fukushima nuclear power plant and they are doing fine. As always the Green Party is blowing things out of proportion.

As long as there is injustice in society the police must enforce the law as it is written. Don't like the law or how it is written or that the Swedish police is armed with tactical nukes? Vote for different political parties. We must have a civilized and peaceful political system. I believe that the same principal applies to the Swedish COVID response and any other political issues. Nothing can be solved with violence except when you're fighting criminals.

Jon Pod Van Damm fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Apr 25, 2022

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Ebbagate has reached the next stage in the right-wing narrative sphere: “Ebba was intentionally misunderstood by the radical left media organisations SVT and SR!”

Again: this will only escalate all the way to September.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

15-year-old joined terrorist organisation Feuerkrieg Division, shared bomb recipes and preached race war online. Sure is a mystery how we got here.

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/paa-hemmeligt-nynazistisk-forum-droemte-15-aarig-faengslet-dansk-dreng-om-halshugge

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/stranger_sins/status/1518962497692315651?s=21&t=gdhC4Xk7OyChhMl1ueKB7g

Someone here’s a celebrity!

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib
So Denmark is now also going to lease prison space abroad https://www.dn.se/varlden/danmark-hyr-300-fangelseplatser-i-kosovo/

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?


This wasn't me, but I did bring a deranged mix of chocolate and buttermilk to LAN parties.

THE BAR fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 27, 2022

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Star posted:

So Denmark is now also going to lease prison space abroad https://www.dn.se/varlden/danmark-hyr-300-fangelseplatser-i-kosovo/

I saw some M politician on nyheterna saying Sweden will follow in denmarks shoes if they win the election.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/Vailett2022/status/1519316109698162688?t=g4Q5WwnXviKH_yL2TsaLvg&s=19

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Lol and old people still vote for her and her party. Self harming idiots.

Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 28, 2022

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Ebba did some sort of photo op in support for Ukraine. Good for her I guess, but parts of her cheerleading squad isn’t overly thrilled:

https://twitter.com/bitsocker/status/1520630761430343680?s=21&t=FusS7Rf1JPKvm1BtIR3nxA

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 08:44 on May 1, 2022

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

BigglesSWE posted:

Ebba did some sort of photo op in support for Ukraine. Good for her I guess, but parts of her cheerleading squad isn’t overly thrilled:

https://twitter.com/bitsocker/status/1520630761430343680?s=21&t=FusS7Rf1JPKvm1BtIR3nxA

It’s worse, she got some ukrainian fashion designer to make her a dress for the Swedish ELLE (the magazine) gala. Then her invitation got cancelled after she brayed for protester blood when Paludan burned the Koran at several cities in Sweden, as being pro-violence is against the values of the magazine. So now Ebba is crying crocodile tears in media about her poor ukrainian designer friend, and how unfair it is that people ”misinterpret” her - she’s like, just asking questions! Unharmful questions! Such as why the police did not shoot 100 protesters.

The photo shoot is kind of a way to get back at ELLE and lamestream media for stopping her courageous selfpromotion. Or wait, her courageous support of Ukraine. Sorry.

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 10:39 on May 1, 2022

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Oh I thought she got kicked out of the Elle-gala after the photo shoot. But yeah that makes more sense. In true EBT fashion the greatest question of the day is “why are people persecuting ME?!”

The right has screamed a lot about her being “misunderstood” which is absolute horseshit. She said what she said, people reacted to it, but conservatives are always victims, no matter what, so ofc poor lil’ Ebba was taken out of context.

Swedish Twitter (which is, on average, even more right wing dominated than the American sphere) is filled with “Ebba is a strong feminist icon!” takes, ironically from people who any other day of the week would call feminism the decline of society. Imagine that.

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 11:28 on May 1, 2022

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden
I can’t be the only one seeing her as cosplaying Ivanka Trump?

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

zokie posted:

I can’t be the only one seeing her as cosplaying Ivanka Trump?

I mean she is adopting pretty much every public media strategy from the American right-wing so yeah that checks out.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

lilljonas posted:

Then her invitation got cancelled after she brayed for protester blood when Paludan burned the Koran at several cities in Sweden, as being pro-violence is against the values of the magazine. So now Ebba is crying crocodile tears in media about her poor ukrainian designer friend, and how unfair it is that people ”misinterpret” her - she’s like, just asking questions! Unharmful questions! Such as why the police did not shoot 100 protesters.
Paludan got tar and feathered out of Uppsala when he showed up the day before loving Eid, LMAO

Woodenlung
Dec 10, 2013

Calculating Infinity
Nick Hækkerup loving off is some great news, but like everyone, you cant help wondering why. You dont leave your position minister of justice, for a CEO position at bryggeriforeningen lmao. Good guess would be the FE case , but could also be a result of whatever the mink commission are finding. Probably not his wetness for surveillance, sadly, as great as that would be.

Tesfaye coming in to replace him, might actually be even worse somehow. I dont know how they manage, but they do.

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug
More surveillance = more freedom. Bing bong, so logical. Probably FE-sagen. I hope the prestigeous institution of... (checks notes) the brewers association... knows what they're getting.

I have great confidence in Tesfaye somehow managing to be worse for everything and everyone, no matter how bad his predecessor was. Could be an actual nightmare with his stupidity at the wheel of the ministry of justice. He is to racists and racist policy, as social democrats are to neoliberal public sector reforms.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 22 hours!
More surveillance IS more freedom.

It's just not specifying who exactly is getting more freedom.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Not to worry, they found a two decades old picture of Tesfaye from his DKP M/L days standing behind what looks like a Soviet flag, which libs assure me is just like a nazi flag. Methinks somebody's about to get cancelled. :toughguy:

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Revelation 2-13 posted:

More surveillance = more freedom. Bing bong, so logical. Probably FE-sagen. I hope the prestigeous institution of... (checks notes) the brewers association... knows what they're getting.

I have great confidence in Tesfaye somehow managing to be worse for everything and everyone, no matter how bad his predecessor was. Could be an actual nightmare with his stupidity at the wheel of the ministry of justice. He is to racists and racist policy, as social democrats are to neoliberal public sector reforms.

So a way for them to sabotage their original core agenda, approach the politics of their ideological opponents and diminish their electoral support long term?

fnox
May 19, 2013



https://twitter.com/OAJonsson/status/1521381865936072710

Lol, now they're besmirching Astrid Lindgren. Everyone gets to be a Nazi, except the ones actually annexing territories through genocide.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

fnox posted:

https://twitter.com/OAJonsson/status/1521381865936072710

Lol, now they're besmirching Astrid Lindgren. Everyone gets to be a Nazi, except the ones actually annexing territories through genocide.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 22 hours!

fnox posted:

https://twitter.com/OAJonsson/status/1521381865936072710

Lol, now they're besmirching Astrid Lindgren. Everyone gets to be a Nazi, except the ones actually annexing territories through genocide.

Love the rhetoric that if you are against Russia then you're for Nazis.

Saddest thing is that it works 100%. My parents are spewing the same poo poo right now.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Jack Trades posted:

Love the rhetoric that if you are against Russia then you're for Nazis.

Saddest thing is that it works 100%. My parents are spewing the same poo poo right now.

WW2 ended in Europe when Hitler was shot in the head. He was shot in the head by the founder of National Socialism. Ergo, if you're against Nazism, then you're for Hitler. QED

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

lilljonas posted:

It’s worse, she got some ukrainian fashion designer to make her a dress for the Swedish ELLE (the magazine) gala. Then her invitation got cancelled after she brayed for protester blood when Paludan burned the Koran at several cities in Sweden, as being pro-violence is against the values of the magazine. So now Ebba is crying crocodile tears in media about her poor ukrainian designer friend, and how unfair it is that people ”misinterpret” her - she’s like, just asking questions! Unharmful questions! Such as why the police did not shoot 100 protesters.

The photo shoot is kind of a way to get back at ELLE and lamestream media for stopping her courageous selfpromotion. Or wait, her courageous support of Ukraine. Sorry.

Well, she payed for the dress, the makeup and the jewelry, so she might as well get something out of it.
The whole thing is a media thing.
EBT knows how to play the media, and they are helpless to resist in the same way that they are covering the violent protests against Paludan (and not the peaceful protests).
As EBT and S knows (and learned from Trump), if you are just willing to throw more crap to media, you overload them, since the long term memory is zero and the only interesting thing is the new scandal (since that is where the money comes).

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Jack Trades posted:

Love the rhetoric that if you are against Russia then you're for Nazis.

Same, and vice versa. :laugh:

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

SplitSoul posted:

Same, and vice versa. :laugh:

Lavrov blaming Jews for the Holocaust, etc.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Jewish Homo Nazis

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
It just struck me, that Russia, with it's fascist and nazi inspired ideology, who at the same time tries to nostalgically harken back to the USSR days, have become the real life version of



Simpsons did it again

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Rust Martialis posted:

Lavrov blaming Jews for the Holocaust, etc.

I always suspected he read Berlingske.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/karlssonmax/status/1521758333362970626?s=21&t=0NzH-iBdN7oRz2jVv-fHHA


I’m so tired of these manufactured outrages.

Also SD has dropped a few points in latest polls so it was high time for a stupid distraction I guess.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

I hope they drop all the way back into whatever fermented cesspit they crawled up from.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

BigglesSWE posted:

https://twitter.com/karlssonmax/status/1521758333362970626?s=21&t=0NzH-iBdN7oRz2jVv-fHHA


I’m so tired of these manufactured outrages.

Also SD has dropped a few points in latest polls so it was high time for a stupid distraction I guess.

Lol please please invite Kakan to every single election-related event this year and see how fast his "principles" break.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

And so it begins. Refugees having to pay for the privilege of working for 70 kr./hour. Raise your hands if you also predicted this sort of exploitation would happen immediately. Doubt there's any emergency legislation in the works to combat this, though, the solidarity doesn't extend that far.

https://fagbladet3f.dk/node/57282

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
I heard on SVT today that Turkey might be against Sweden and Finland joining Nato, if we're lucky they'll stop us from joining.

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide
Don't count on it.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

They're posturing to extract concessions of some sort.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
Yes I know it's a long shot but since S is determined I have little hope left so.

I thought we lived in a democracy, a faulty one but a democracy nonetheless and since this decision is going to be forced down our throats I'm angry at everyone. Folkomröstning seems like the least they could do.

Kamrat fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 15, 2022

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SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Enhedslisten have now effectively laid to rest their opposition to both the EU and NATO. They think they can "change the EU from within" and are afraid of being "hunted wildly" if they maintain.

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