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Opopanax posted:Killing the Klan also doesn't affect your morality iirc Most disappointing thing for me when I played RDR2 is that I never ran into the Klan event so I couldn't kill them. Although I did get to throw a Molotov cocktail into a group of them in Mafia 3.
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Really if video games have been encouraging us to mow down Nazis by the score for the last thirty years, there ought to be more opportunities to do the same for Klansmen.
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May 1, 2022 19:22
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I liked that Disco Elysium presents nationalist dialogue choices with real dogwhistle language about "foreigners" and "honest hard working people"; I rode along for a friend's playthrough and it was fun explaining why the game was taking him aside to say "hey seems like you're really into fascism." To be fair to my buddy it took him a very long time to realize that he didn't have to fully exhaust every dialogue tree
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May 1, 2022 21:51
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muscles like this! posted:Most disappointing thing for me when I played RDR2 is that I never ran into the Klan event so I couldn't kill them. Although I did get to throw a Molotov cocktail into a group of them in Mafia 3. Lincoln has some brutal combat animations. Stabbing racists while dressed like Jimi Hendrix never wore out its welcome.
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May 1, 2022 21:54
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Man, showing the Hardie Boys my authority went real south real fast 
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May 1, 2022 21:55
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The only thing I don't like about DE's politics is that it tends to score "I would like to know more about what's going on here" as centrism, which kind of sucks on a first playthrough
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May 1, 2022 21:57
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My fav thing about Disco Elysium has to be Egg Head and the fact that he’s a Scooter song made into a character. HARD CORE!! HARD CORE TO THE MEGA YEAAAAAAH!!! (He also references a few Scooter songs  )
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May 1, 2022 22:19
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Der-Wreck posted:My fav thing about Disco Elysium has to be Egg Head and the fact that he’s a Scooter song made into a character. HARD CORE!! HARD CORE TO THE MEGA YEAAAAAAH!!! Same, I still think about this one randomly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Cj9AIy3gc Also i love the anodic music song and the fact that you can finish it. The way you do it is also one of the most mindfucky things I remember out of games like this and a great piece of world building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm_RTOABNKs the fade is absolutely terrifying and the fact that you find a spot of it in the middle of martinaise even moreso. That you then use it to create a bass for a song is just, man, it's just great I really could go on and on about DE 
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May 1, 2022 22:33
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haveblue posted:The only thing I don't like about DE's politics is that it tends to score "I would like to know more about what's going on here" as centrism, which kind of sucks on a first playthrough Lol, don't look for more information to understand the deeper issues at play, form an opinion based on the first thing you hear and never waver from it
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May 1, 2022 23:12
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haveblue posted:The only thing I don't like about DE's politics is that it tends to score "I would like to know more about what's going on here" as centrism, which kind of sucks on a first playthrough "No, hold on Kim, we need to listen to the Racist Lorry Driver some more, maybe he has a point. We can all learn and grow from this experience."
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May 1, 2022 23:31
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Speaking of Disco Elysium, I love Kim's dry sarcasm when he's clearly had enough of your poo poo and is holding back.
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May 2, 2022 00:16
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Leal posted:This reminds me of Fable, where one of the endings you can get this cool rear end sword but you have to kill your sister to get it. The other option is to toss it into the abyss. I remember that. The sword was promising me ultimate power and I was all "That guy (points at dismembered corpse) had the sword of 'Ultimate Power'. And I killed him. With this sword (points at own hands). So... why would I want the lovely one?"
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May 2, 2022 06:14
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The paedophile and human trafficker named Saint James in FNV is... interesting in retrospect. Of course, so much about Epstein had been an open secret for decades.Screaming Idiot posted:"No, hold on Kim, we need to listen to the Racist Lorry Driver some more, maybe he has a point. We can all learn and grow from this experience." Yeah, it's pretty much D&D mod levels of smiling and nodding at Calm Hitler while admonishing complainers for their lack of decorum. The devs are extremely online, they know the type.
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May 2, 2022 06:47
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Yeah, it's pretty much D&D mod levels of smiling and nodding at Calm Hitler while admonishing complainers for their lack of decorum. The devs are extremely online, they know the type. The correct answer is to punch the Racist Lorry Driver in the face. It makes the drugs sidequest harder, but it's worth it.
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May 2, 2022 07:42
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Bargearse posted:Speaking of Disco Elysium, I love Kim's dry sarcasm when he's clearly had enough of your poo poo and is holding back. Even better are the times when he's not had enough of your poo poo but is sticking to his straight man role
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May 2, 2022 10:48
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I don't think there's no place to have 'here's a rapist, beat his rear end' in a game, but there are times when that definitely just breaks the tone of the game around it. I never found that about Fallout, and I haven't played Discus Elevator yet, but weirdly, at-relaunch FFXIV did it a lot. Either every single writer thought they were the only one implying rape in a background detail and didn't check each others' work until launch, or someone was just really into writing that, and is thankfully no longer doing so.
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May 2, 2022 12:43
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There’s that one bit where you kinda “break” Kim out of his straight-man attitude, when you suggest some sweet mods for his vehicle and he is disgusted at the suggestion, saying “that’s porno tuning”
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May 2, 2022 12:54
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Philippe posted:The correct answer is to punch the Racist Lorry Driver in the face. It makes the drugs sidequest harder, but it's worth it. Going for a Phys/Psych build on my first run to play as an empathic himbo cop and then spinkicking Measurehead was absolutely delightful
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May 2, 2022 12:58
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Cleretic posted:I never found that about Fallout, and I haven't played Discus Elevator yet, but weirdly, at-relaunch FFXIV did it a lot. Either every single writer thought they were the only one implying rape in a background detail and didn't check each others' work until launch, or someone was just really into writing that, and is thankfully no longer doing so. Examples? I can scarcely remember.
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May 2, 2022 13:22
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Kit Walker posted:Going for a Phys/Psych build on my first run to play as an empathic himbo cop and then spinkicking Measurehead was absolutely delightful I gave myself the lowest starting physical strength because I thought that would be a less interesting way to play, but I wanted to kick Measurehead's rear end so badly I ended up beefing up anyway. Totally worth it.
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May 2, 2022 13:25
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Examples? I can scarcely remember. It's mostly off in sidequests--I know the postmoogle quests have one of the most stark ones, and the point where a merchant harasses a poor migrant in Ul'Dah has one of the only MSQ mentions.
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May 2, 2022 14:00
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bitterandtwisted posted:I gave myself the lowest starting physical strength because I thought that would be a less interesting way to play, but I wanted to kick Measurehead's rear end so badly I ended up beefing up anyway. Totally worth it. I gotta give props to the DE team for putting so much drat thought into making the physique skills actually interesting. In any other roleplaying game it would be just about hitting stuff but in DE it's also your self-preservation/paranoia, your predilection for addictive substances and activities, your attunement to the city itself. Shivers alone makes investing in Phys worthwhile. When it came time to do the field autopsy on the body, having Shivers' other voice chime in to confirm my suspicion that something was amiss about the cause of death was incredible
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May 2, 2022 14:01
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There's a thought cabinet you can get that allows you to level shivers to 6 without good Phys, I usually use that instead of investing in Phys normally. Though it is nice to be able to do the sick-rear end 360 spin kick against measurehead.
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bitterandtwisted posted:I gave myself the lowest starting physical strength because I thought that would be a less interesting way to play, but I wanted to kick Measurehead's rear end so badly I ended up beefing up anyway. Totally worth it. I gave myself the lowest starting physical strength the first time I played and had a fatal heart attack while trying to get my necktie down from the ceiling fan. Disco Elysium is great.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Examples? I can scarcely remember. I played through ARR's MSQ recently and it comes up a disconcerting amount of times. Mild spoilers for the game and, uh, repeated references to sexual violence. - In Satasha Seagrot, the female NPCs in the pirate hideout section are explicitly sex slaves. One of them swears she's not a pirate "on what remains of her virtue". - A merchant in Ul'dah says he'll let a woman he's accusing of thievery go if she does whatever he wants. The cutscene framing and animations make his meaning pretty clear. - A refugee in Little Ala Mhigo says she was kidnapped by bandits and violated. - A Garlean spy in the ARR patch quests breaks down when captured, justifying her actions by talking about the terrible things she had to do to survive, including prostituting herself. That's just off the top of my head. Except for the bit in Satasha, these are all part of the MSQ and thus front and center.
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beats for junkies posted:I gave myself the lowest starting physical strength the first time I played and had a fatal heart attack while trying to get my necktie down from the ceiling fan. Ha! I did the same thing
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May 2, 2022 16:29
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My favorite part of Disco Elysium is, unironically, that you can finish the story without ever learning a thing about Harrier's previous romantic interest or having the second dream it threatens you with early in the game.
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May 2, 2022 16:47
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Why bother with Harry's problems when you are Ace Detective Raphael Ambrosius Costeau?
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1stGear posted:I played through ARR's MSQ recently and it comes up a disconcerting amount of times. Mild spoilers for the game and, uh, repeated references to sexual violence. Yeah, these actually got me to quit for the longest time because I didn't like how flippant and unnecessary these story beats seemed, especially the one in Little Ala Mhigo where it was used to justify a "kill x mob" filler quest. Now it still pops up every now and again, but it's handled with a bit more gravitas and due delicacy -- sexual assault isn't something that should be handled by killing 8 Corpse Brigade Evokers and bringing 10 Green Chocobo Tailfeathers to Quartermaster Stevebert.
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Crowetron posted:Why bother with Harry's problems when you are Ace Detective Raphael Ambrosius Costeau? Dump these losers and play as Tequila Sunset
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haveblue posted:The only thing I don't like about DE's politics is that it tends to score "I would like to know more about what's going on here" as centrism, which kind of sucks on a first playthrough If you go in blind like me and work solely on the narrative provided, the game will absolutely call you out on it. My first time I had to restart because I treated the start like a murder investigation game - questioning people, keeping calm, letting them talk and getting information. I didn't realize the point of the game was a series of choose-your-own-adventure philosophy lectures Still a fun experience that goes some interesting places but dang it really is goonsay the game
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May 2, 2022 18:57
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title just gets apter and apter
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I just wanted to earn Kim's respect 
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Barudak posted:My favorite part of Disco Elysium is, unironically, that you can finish the story without ever learning a thing about Harrier's previous romantic interest or having the second dream it threatens you with early in the game. I'm going to have to start a brand-new game.
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Hirayuki posted:poo poo, I'm a ways through and I still don't know what I look like. I assure you, this is for the best.
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May 2, 2022 19:21
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haveblue posted:I just wanted to earn Kim's respect I got both the trophy for Kim don't trusting me and later when it really, really mattered I got a prompt that said that Kim trust me, he really trust me 
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Disco Elysium is sounding a lot like a game that you're gonna bumble through hard on your first playthrough - How very in character for this RPG and protagonist- But an absolutely amazing thing to play on a second playthrough if you're someone that does that and doesn't immediately throw games out the window the second the main story is complete.
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In a weird way I'm reminded of Hitman: there's a couple city blocks full of people and stories, and in order to see everything you need to look around. You're gonna miss stuff, and that's fine, because maybe you'll find it next time.
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Or Dark Souls. I recommend going in blind for a few runs but REALLY spoiler yourself to see some cool stuff you may have missed
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Yeah, Disco Elysium calling you boring is more about making you aware that you're not spreading out the web of feelers you should be in a mystery solving game. It's calling your gameplay routine, not you, which is why it's Boring Cop and not Boring Detective. Your gameplay sees you acting really normal i.e. self-railroaded and you may not realize you don't have to. Almost like the game is prodding you into remembering that you can selectively lie to others and personify yourself, not because it'll pigeonhole you into a playstyle, but because it's how you unlock further opportunities to interact in whatever way you want, even if you go back to being boring cop right after.
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