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Concept: Cream becomes an honorary member of Team Dark.
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# ? May 3, 2022 03:59 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 14:32 |
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Concept: Shadow marries Vanilla, the only other adult in the series, and becomes Cream's awkward stepdad.
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# ? May 3, 2022 04:34 |
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The absolute worst thing about Sonic Chronicles is the music. They had an entire original soundtrack written, but they had to scrap it at the last minute for copyright reasons when EA bought bioware They stuck in midis from older games that they clearly had just downloaded from vgmusic.com, and the soundfont they used was missing instruments so in some songs the drums are just gone But the biggest impact is that the combat, which was built entirely around playing a rhythm minigame to do anything at all, is no longer set to the beat It's so loving bad
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:01 |
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What the gently caress that combat system sounds like it'd rule, god drat it now there's another Sonic game I wish was good.
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:07 |
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I really wanted to like Sonic Chronicles. I really did. But it was terrible. I do think Sonic RPG is a solid idea in concept and should be given another chance.
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:13 |
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I remember when it was announced I was kinda excited for what I imagined as a Mario RPG style game, but with the Sonic cast done by BioWare. I didn't end up getting it, but boy what a missed opportunity.
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:17 |
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Did they ever release or leak the soundtrack it was supposed to have? I was always curious about it
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:17 |
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Kinda hilarious that the same soundtrack gently caress up happened twice.
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:21 |
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I remember there being a Sonic fan RPG for DOS back when. That's..about all I remember of it though.
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# ? May 3, 2022 05:29 |
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Larryb posted:I mean, considering that every console and handheld has had online support for a while now he technically wasn’t wrong There's an old saying from somewhere that he had the right idea at the wrong time. To be fair even Nintendo tried out online gimmicks around then, in Japan at least. And made the Virtual Boy, speaking of promising technology that just wasn't there yet. It's tricky in the hardware market; it can sometimes be really hard to tell what's a promising way forward and what's a dead-end gimmick until you try, and you can make fuckloads of money if you succeed. (see how Sony's used their hardware to push the format wars, which are basically a license to print money if you win)
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# ? May 3, 2022 07:09 |
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womb with a view posted:Did they ever release or leak the soundtrack it was supposed to have? I was always curious about it The soundtrack wasn't 100% replaced, and there is a very obvious disparity between the MIDIs they dropped in and the original music (which is fairly unmemorable and very compressed Richard Jacques techno).
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# ? May 3, 2022 11:22 |
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Honestly to me the worst thing about Sonic Chronicles is that it used D&D conventions for its equipment, becaise of course thats what Bioware would use, which made things confusing.
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# ? May 3, 2022 11:28 |
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flavor.flv posted:The absolute worst thing about Sonic Chronicles is the music. I've been hearing some hosed up Sonic music opinions in this thread lately so I fully expect someone to come in here saying how the Sonic Chronicles soundtrack is the poo poo.
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# ? May 3, 2022 12:33 |
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Bioware is a hack company that never made a good game in their entire history.
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# ? May 3, 2022 12:44 |
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ConanThe3rd posted:Honestly to me the worst thing about Sonic Chronicles is that it used D&D conventions for its equipment, becaise of course thats what Bioware would use, which made things confusing. IIRC it's not really much different from what say, Mario RPGs use.
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# ? May 3, 2022 13:05 |
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Dabir posted:Bioware is a hack company that never made a good game in their entire history. Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was fun.
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# ? May 3, 2022 13:41 |
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Dabir posted:Bioware is a hack company that never made a good game in their entire history. Something about glass houses and throwing things
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# ? May 3, 2022 13:46 |
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I'm comfortable saying Sonic Team are significantly better developers than Bioware. This is not a compliment to Sonic Team.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:05 |
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MJeff posted:I'm comfortable saying Sonic Team are significantly better developers than Bioware. This is not a compliment to Sonic Team. Sonic Team started with some absolute bangers. I don't know how the gently caress Bioware got the reputation they had before ME3.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:15 |
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Dabir posted:Sonic Team started with some absolute bangers. I don't know how the gently caress Bioware got the reputation they had before ME3. I had to look up lists, but okay, Sonic Team has a lot more dev credits then I thought they did.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:28 |
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There hasn't been multiple postmortems on Sonic Team where it's clear they've always been a bunch of incompetents who need publishers to kick them in the rear end to actually make a game (and then rely on Magic(tm) to release it on time) so they're better than Bioware in that regard.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:31 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:IIRC it's not really much different from what say, Mario RPGs use. i remember what exactly stats actually do being kind of unintuitive but not any details edit: oh yeah what confused me was that attack and defense, the stats, are actually accuracy and evasion Looper fucked around with this message at 14:46 on May 3, 2022 |
# ? May 3, 2022 14:38 |
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I'm not gonna contest Bioware is a trash fire of a company, and they maybe even had an underserved good reputation for a time, but I just think it's kind of rich to say "they have never made a good game" like a page or two after we're talking about how much of a hot mess Sonic Team / Yugi Naka is behind the scenes. Like Sonic Team's best recent action was to let fans make a game(s) for them. I suppose they deserve credit for that, though.
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# ? May 3, 2022 14:40 |
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Oxyclean posted:Baulder's Gate, Neverwinter Knights, KotOR, Dragon Age, Mass Effect 1. Not that I played half of them but I heard decent things about most. Bioware had pretty decent recognition in the RPG genre, and I don't think it was entirely misplaced. All of those games were poo poo.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:14 |
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Dabir posted:All of those games were poo poo. Do we need to retread "Sonic was never good"?
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:17 |
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across the entire series less than ten sonic games are actually bad
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:23 |
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Oxyclean posted:I'm not gonna contest Bioware is a trash fire of a company, and they maybe even had an underserved good reputation for a time, but I just think it's kind of rich to say "they have never made a good game" like a page or two after we're talking about how much of a hot mess Sonic Team / Yugi Naka is behind the scenes. Yes. Sonic Team are incompetent buffoons. Bioware are worse.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:34 |
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Bioware and Sonic Team are pretty similar in their work history, they started out with some fantastic genre-definining titles (Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Sonic 1-3) and then could never make anything which touched the quality of their early work again. Arguing over which one is worse seems kinda pointless when they've both been in the gutters for years
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:40 |
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I think there might be less then ten sonic games I want to play again. Sonic Games I love: Sonic 2, 3&K, SA2B, Generations, Mania Sonic games that are good enough: Sonic 1, Sonic CD, SA1, Racing Transformed Sonic Games that weren't bad and I might be tempted to play again: Sonic Adv1, Sonic Adv2, Colours Sonic Games that maybe weren't bad but don't really have a desire to play again Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble, Sonic R, Tails Adventure, Sonic Battle, Meh Sonic 1 GG, Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Spinball, SAdv3, Sonic Heroes, Bad Sonic Games: Sonic '06, Sonic 2 GG, Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic 4, Episode 1, Tails' Sky Patrol, Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Shuffle Sonic Games I haven't played and that probably says something about them being a sonic fan: Secret Rings, Black Knight, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Lost World, Sonic Forces, Sonic 4 Ep 2 Sonic Games I haven't played but am less ready to make a hot take on: Sonic Riders Series, Sonic Team Racing, All-Star Racing There's a bunch I didn't play and don't really have any perspective on to put them on this list / lazy. Honestly this list is pretty off the cuff and position shifting is subject to nostalgia as maybe I'm making this list with a bias against. I'd love to see a remaster project for some of the later Game Gear games. No Dignity posted:Arguing over which one is worse seems kinda pointless when they've both been in the gutters for years
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:46 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Concept: Shadow marries Vanilla, the only other adult in the series, and becomes Cream's awkward stepdad.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:46 |
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The non-Kinect Sonic Riders games own actually
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:49 |
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Looper posted:across the entire series less than ten sonic games are actually bad Labyrinth Shuffle 4 episode 1 & 2 Spinball Riders for Kinect Boom rise of Lyric Forces Chronicles Rivals 1 & 2 Unleashed for Wii hatty fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 3, 2022 |
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Oxyclean posted:I think there might be less then ten sonic games I want to play again. 06 and chaotix are both fun, and shuffle owns. opinion disqualified
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:52 |
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i am however glad that we can all agree sonic labyrinth is garbage and flawed in its basic premise
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:54 |
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Shuffle is possibly the worst sonic game. If you want sonic mario party, play secret rings Secret rings also sucks, but not nearly as much as shuffle
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:56 |
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Pants Donkey posted:Wild that your list of adults excludes the villain, who has basically had one massive mid-life crisis for thirty years. He made an ice cream planet and is fixated on theme parks. I am not convinced that eggman isn't just a 6-year old piloting a fat man mech.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:57 |
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Looper posted:06 and chaotix are both fun, and shuffle owns. opinion disqualified Chaotix has "Door Into Summer" and some other good tracks, which is kind of redeeming, but the level design feels so repetitive and unremarkable.
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# ? May 3, 2022 15:58 |
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flavor.flv posted:Shuffle is possibly the worst sonic game. If you want sonic mario party, play secret rings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taghpptcGIM
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:00 |
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That phrase is instantly what comes to mind when I think of Sonic Shuffle That said, I think they were playing wrong (didn't have VMUs?) based on how I assume the card system is supposed to work? Or is it just supposed to be confusing and random?
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:06 |
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you're supposed to be able to see your own hand on the vmu, which i legit think is a fun twist. emulators can set vmu screens to display on the main screen which leads to its own chaos but isn't quite as fun
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# ? May 3, 2022 16:09 |