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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007




It's bogus, their real audio is a Bon Jovi song:
https://youtu.be/1WHUNE7Dq0A

Cruel Angel's Thesis was performed by the Japan Coast Guard band:
https://youtu.be/aXjIy0XQGi4

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Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks still suck but you don't gotta hand it to the Axis either.

Jimmy Smuts posted:

I wonder how these Russian strategies of not giving a single gently caress about your soldiers is going to work with Russia's decline in birthrates since 1991. Back when they had a high birthrate in the USSR days, yeah it kinda made sense from a hosed up point of view. But now that their birthrate is pretty low, well lol.

The population growth was already very gloomy in the USSR after 1970s, it is not only a post-Soviet problem in the region.

If you deduct the massive loss of reproduction age population in the world wars and Soviet Unions issues between 1920 and 1939 meant the USSR could be seen as Negative population growth since the 1930s. USSR was big, but it’s population was sparse compared to its size.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Armacham posted:

I mean Wikipedia says: In the first three months, blocking detachments shot 1,000 penal troops and sent 24,000 to penal battalions.
According to an internal list of the NKVD from October 1942, 15,649 soldiers were picked up by the restricted forces who fled the front line on the Stalingrad Front from August 1, 1942 to October 15, 1942. Of these, 244 soldiers were imprisoned, 278 were shot, 218 were sent to penal companies, 42 to penal battalions and 14,833 to return to their units.

So if you have better sources than that, you should update that article.

What point do you think you’re making here lol? Less than 1500 executions on human history’s most brutal war front where tens of millions of people died. That’s downright cuddly compared to most other policies just on the Soviet side, much less the Nazi side where summary executions by the SS did become almost as casual as enemy at the gates portrayed at the end.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Wow, less than 1500 executions

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Wow, less than 1500 executions

One is a tragedy, 1500 is a statistic

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



Eason the Fifth posted:

One is a tragedy, less than 1500 is a statistic

Ftfy

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

What point do you think you’re making here lol? Less than 1500 executions on human history’s most brutal war front where tens of millions of people died. That’s downright cuddly compared to most other policies just on the Soviet side, much less the Nazi side where summary executions by the SS did become almost as casual as enemy at the gates portrayed at the end.

Sounds like I'm on the same side as you broseph

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Armacham posted:

Sounds like I'm on the same side as you broseph

Misunderstood who was arguing what point then.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Wow, less than 1500 executions

Thanks for the bad faith reading! What’s your point here?

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
That's a wild combination of words.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

I feel like the idea of Chechen forces being used as blocking detachments may be overstated because who the gently caress would trust their flank to the guys who are always a sneeze away from magdumping into each other in their LARP videos?

They aren't used to block Russian troops. People always joke about the Tuvan volksturm, but the real volksturm is in the Donbas.

The Russian puppet states in the Donbas have declared general mobilization, so they're forcing local East Ukrainians to fight for Russia. These are the guys with the shittiest bottom-bin WWII gear and WWI Maxims.

Obviously morale is abysmal, so they're being "motivated" by a rearguard of Kadyrovite Chechen troops.

"Isn't forcing people of conquered land to fight your war a war crime?" you ask. Well, that depends on whether you think the Lukhansk and Donets people's republics are real states or just Russian sock puppets.

Jasper Tin Neck fucked around with this message at 08:58 on May 3, 2022

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Jasper Tin Neck posted:

The Russian puppet states in the Donbas have declared general mobilization, so they're forcing local East Ukrainians to fight for Russia. These are the guys with the shittiest bottom-bin WWII Gear and WWI Maxims.

Living in a territory occupied by Russia must be one of the few instances in history where it really and truly sucks to be a young white male. Maybe we should thank Russia for finally tipping the scales of equality on this issue.

In all seriousness though, being pressganged into war in bare basics WW2 gear against the current Ukrainian military sounds terrifying at best.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Jimmy Smuts posted:

I wonder how these Russian strategies of not giving a single gently caress about your soldiers is going to work with Russia's decline in birthrates since 1991. Back when they had a high birthrate in the USSR days, yeah it kinda made sense from a hosed up point of view. But now that their birthrate is pretty low, well lol.

There was a Twitter thread posted this page or last that gets into that. Basically they're making sure that the vast majority of the soldiers on the front line getting slaughtered are the ones conscripted from ethnic minority parts of Russia that had higher birth rates.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Living in a territory occupied by Russia must be one of the few instances in history where it really and truly sucks to be a young white male. Maybe we should thank Russia for finally tipping the scales of equality on this issue.

Sadly it's not even that unusual, former Yugoslavia wasn't a fun place to be a young, white dude either.

Civilian men over 15 years of age are 5–10 times more likely to be killed during a war, because they're waaaay more likely subjected to forced conscription or targeted killings of civilians.

This is of course conveniently glossed over by European racists saying: "look at the brave (European, white) Ukrainians fighting like REAL MEN unlike the COWARDLY Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans crowding our countries."

Of course there is a subtle difference in fighting for "functioning democracy vs. invading dictatorship" compared to "corrupt kleptocracy/dictatorship or religious death cult."

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1521446614702989313

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

There is also a destroyed Russian tank in that photo.

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

A.o.D. posted:

There is also a destroyed Russian tank in that photo.

:golfclap:

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

There was a picture from a month ago of some girl giving a blown up tank the finger which was quite good too

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Pine Cone Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1521224095848927233?t=czd4jFqPC9QkaB18q-Yd_A&s=09

I know it was likely previously shared and it's not an entirely trustworthy source, the same goes for the below.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1521247950604804101?t=yyKo2yqpiv-Q7bDYazk-Kw&s=09

However, if true and russia shared information with Hungary, I really don't know what we would do. It would be clear that orban can't be trusted and may even be providing information from NATO to russia.

Jesus, it's been a century since WW1 and there are still Hungarian nationalists thirsting after land like it matters with the EU in place. Conservatives/Reactionaries truly are the dumbest people.

Churchill
Nov 27, 2007
Winston
https://mobile.twitter.com/OAJonsson/status/1521454438791196672

Russia is upping it's propaganda game towards Sweden and Finland. Speculation in Sweden is that they're drumming up support for an attack, particularly to seize Gotland, unfeasible as that may be. Either as a domestic diversion from the failure in Ukraine or to strike now whilst the world hates you anyway and before Sweden applies for NATO membership.

Edit: For some mysterious reason they left out Raoul Wallenberg

Churchill fucked around with this message at 12:54 on May 3, 2022

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Lada - Outlasting T-72s since 1970.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Jimmy Smuts posted:

I wonder how these Russian strategies of not giving a single gently caress about your soldiers is going to work with Russia's decline in birthrates since 1991. Back when they had a high birthrate in the USSR days, yeah it kinda made sense from a hosed up point of view. But now that their birthrate is pretty low, well lol.
e:f, b The long thread points out that the birthrate has fallen in the innermost Russia, while it's rising in places that are seen as less Russian (the -stans, Chechnya, &c), and that as far as the elite are concerned killing more of the outer regions is great because it rebalances the population in favor of the "real" Russians.

What the hell have the Soviets got against Pippi Longstocking?

Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 15:11 on May 3, 2022

Hajotus Maximus
Feb 19, 2011

The source in that tweet happens to be the most read article of the most widely distributed finnish news magazine. I checked the comments and man , I've never seen so thoroughly pro-nato comments there. The comments are also slightly miffed about russian news dissing Mannerheim.
Really have to wonder whether the russian state propagandists are concorned about their writings being read in Finland, since any news in russian state media about Finland do usually end up in finnish magazines.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Arsenic Lupin posted:

e:f, b The long thread points out that the birthrate has fallen in the innermost Russia, while it's rising in places that are seen as less Russian (the -stans, Chechnya, &c), and that as far as the elite are concerned killing more of the outer regions is great because it rebalances the population in favor of the "real" Russians.

What the hell have the Soviets got against Pippi Longstocking?

It's just the usual cultural chauvinism born from nationalism. Native culture = superior and good, foreign culture = inferior and decadent.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
Sometimes they steal the foreign things that they like and pretend they invented it

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


A.o.D. posted:

It's just the usual cultural chauvinism born from nationalism. Native culture = superior and good, foreign culture = inferior and decadent.

Moomins are Finnish, therefore Finland is the best. Q.E.D.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004



*A Ukrainian

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Arsenic Lupin posted:

e:f, b The long thread points out that the birthrate has fallen in the innermost Russia, while it's rising in places that are seen as less Russian (the -stans, Chechnya, &c), and that as far as the elite are concerned killing more of the outer regions is great because it rebalances the population in favor of the "real" Russians.

What the hell have the Soviets got against Pippi Longstocking?

Pippi is stronger and has more hair than Putin.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014

CainFortea posted:

*A Ukrainian

THose blocks on the wreckage are (theoretically) explosive, yeah?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Cimber posted:

THose blocks on the wreckage are (theoretically) explosive, yeah?

Cardboard isn’t explosive.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Arsenic Lupin posted:

e:f, b The long thread points out that the birthrate has fallen in the innermost Russia, while it's rising in places that are seen as less Russian (the -stans, Chechnya, &c), and that as far as the elite are concerned killing more of the outer regions is great because it rebalances the population in favor of the "real" Russians.

What the hell have the Soviets got against Pippi Longstocking?

Killing young men doesn’t accomplish much. The old men back home can still make babies.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Crab Dad posted:

Killing young men doesn’t accomplish much. The old men back home can still make babies.
"Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?"

"But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of Russia. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature."

"I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.”

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Still the best war movie of all times.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

CainFortea posted:

*A Ukrainian

A lot of people who are not english/american are going to pronounce it "u-kraine" not "yu-kraine" which makes "an" sound more correct. (You are ofc right though.)

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Armacham posted:

Sometimes they steal the foreign things that they like and pretend they invented it

Nah. Everyone knows scotch was invented by a little old lady from Leningrad.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014

FrozenVent posted:

Still the best war movie of all times.

Enemy at the gates? Not the best of all time. It had its moments but uhhh....

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Cimber posted:

Enemy at the gates? Not the best of all time. It had its moments but uhhh....

Dr Strangelove. The quote I was replying to is from Doctor Strangelove.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
The best War movie is Tropic Thunder.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Starship Troopers you apes

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

A.o.D. posted:

The best War movie is Tropic Thunder.

In The Army Now is the most accurate, however.

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