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BiggerBoat posted:I doubt the emphasis will move to contraception but definitely same sex marriage. You don’t take a piecemeal approach to women’s bodily autonomy
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moonmazed posted:no better time to just kill myself and get it over with i guess Same, I have no interest in finding out exactly how bad it can get. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Andrew Torrez has convinced me that going for contraceptives is more likely than I think. I also wonder if any of this is going to backlash on them.
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Of course not, rightwingers are too braindead to think that far.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I think the flood gates will open and we will see everything from segregation to criminalizing just being gay. Several states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books they just can't use them because Lawrence v. Texas but if a right to privacy is out then welp.
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Xakura posted:I also wonder if any of this is going to backlash on them. Gad, I hope so. "Dred Scott, but against everyone" is what we're looking at here, and the best possible outcome is that the law means nothing anymore (assuming the authorities don't act on these decisions, which, it is to laugh). If this leak doesn't motivate enough blue voters to overcome the voting law deck-stacking the fascists have been doing the past few years, I don't like to think about the results.
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Xakura posted:Andrew Torrez has convinced me that going for contraceptives is more likely than I think. Judging by the ongoing meltdown(s) in US CE, its going to hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans. People are more laser focused on punishing the Dems for not stopping this than going after the Republicans for actually doing it, so the Republicans are just gonna keeping winning and things will continue to degenerate at their accelerated pace. There is no gluing the vase back together, it is broken for good now.
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nine-gear crow posted:Judging by the ongoing meltdown(s) in US CE, its going to hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans. People are more laser focused on punishing the Dems for not stopping this than going after the Republicans for actually doing it, so the Republicans are just gonna keeping winning and things will continue to degenerate at their accelerated pace. Love how the blame is on the party that didn't appoint a bunch of authoritarian, religious sex pests to the Supreme Court; as if there was some One Weird Trick to prevent this.
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May 3, 2022 21:14
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Angry_Ed posted:Love how the blame is on the party that didn't appoint a bunch of authoritarian, religious sex pests to the Supreme Court; as if there was some One Weird Trick to prevent this. Democrats get sad and go home. Republicans get the job done. “The job” in question, of course, is making life unliveable for everyone.
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May 3, 2022 21:19
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nine-gear crow posted:Judging by the ongoing meltdown(s) in US CE, its going to hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans. People are more laser focused on punishing the Dems for not stopping this than going after the Republicans for actually doing it, so the Republicans are just gonna keeping winning and things will continue to degenerate at their accelerated pace. US CE is in absolutely no way an accurate reflection of the country. Like at all. Trying to extrapolate what the effects will be from it seems unwise because this is a wildly different kind of atmosphere from the actual general public
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Zore posted:US CE is in absolutely no way an accurate reflection of the country. Like at all. There does seem to be an outsized number of methane-breathers in there from proximity of their heads to their rectal areas, yes. Hopefully you’re right in that they’re not reflective of actual, not terminally online people. Because if they are somehow, you Yanks are turbo hosed.
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May 3, 2022 21:24
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Astrofig posted:Soooo bye-bye abortion rights apparently. Any guesses what they're gonna axe next? Gay marriage? Women's voting rights? Desegregation? The first two, definitely, but they've learned they don't need legally enforced segregation anymore when they can create it via other, more subtle means.
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May 3, 2022 21:25
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They absolutely resent having to be subtle about it. Modern conservatives are driven primarily by their desire to hurt their opponents. Making life miserable for PoCs is not enough. They want to be able to point and laugh as the others impotently rattle their cage.
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May 3, 2022 21:39
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Asking 'What will they go after?' is fundamentally misunderstanding the fascist mindset. The answer is 'everything'. They're screaming that answer in everyone's face every time Tucker Carlson tries to whip up another follower into a stochastic terrorism killing spree. Nothing is off the table. They want it all and they want to do it with violence towards whatever is the most individually motivating target of hatred.
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bird food bathtub posted:Asking 'What will they go after?' is fundamentally misunderstanding the fascist mindset. The answer is 'everything'. They're screaming that answer in everyone's face every time Tucker Carlson tries to whip up another follower into a stochastic terrorism killing spree. Nothing is off the table. They want it all and they want to do it with violence towards whatever is the most individually motivating target of hatred.
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May 3, 2022 22:27
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BiggerBoat posted:I doubt the emphasis will move to contraception but definitely same sex marriage. Sorry I used to work for Planned Parenthood and they will abso-loving-lutely start coming for contraception. Also, rich white conservative women will still have access to these things, just like they did before.
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May 3, 2022 22:32
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes and the Alito draft literally lays out the rulings that he and the conservative majority consider 'wrong' and in need of correction (Lawrence, Casey, Obergfell, etc). They are telling you exactly what is next. Ah yes, but when a Justice with a functioning soul writes an opinion affirming these rights, it's called "legislating from the bench." Goddamn, these people deserve climate change.
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So I guess the real question is how many more years we have before all the reversals basically make this an unlivable hellscape. I give it five years at the most.
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Oh I know. I know there's at most like, a decade but I'm wondering if it might be time to exit much sooner before poo poo *really* gets bad.
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Nah, stick around, how many people in the history of mankind can say they saw the collapse And on a serious note, if you are feeling truly close to that edge, I plead for you to seek help. I have in the past and I don't regret that
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Aramis posted:They absolutely resent having to be subtle about it. Modern conservatives are driven primarily by their desire to hurt their opponents. Making life miserable for PoCs is not enough. regressives are fine living in a box if the other guy has no box, no sticks to cook rats, and no rats.
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bird food bathtub posted:Asking 'What will they go after?' is fundamentally misunderstanding the fascist mindset. The answer is 'everything'. They're screaming that answer in everyone's face every time Tucker Carlson tries to whip up another follower into a stochastic terrorism killing spree. Nothing is off the table. They want it all and they want to do it with violence towards whatever is the most individually motivating target of hatred. Professor Beetus posted:Sorry I used to work for Planned Parenthood and they will abso-loving-lutely start coming for contraception. Also, rich white conservative women will still have access to these things, just like they did before. They might but I think they're smart enough to not go after losing issues on that extreme end of polling. Overturning abortion is, what, like a 55 -45 issue percentage wise? Contraception is something along the lines of 80 - 20 and even the religious rednecks don't want their 16 year old kids becoming parents. Not saying you're wrong, and obviously you know more than me having worked at PP. I just don't think there are enough of them. Yet. I looked at some polling and cross tabs earlier today that I posted in the CE thread. I have to think we're a long way out from pushing up against banning birth control pills or condoms. E And for all the talk about climate change and how many of these goobers believe in things like God laying into New Orleans for being dirty sinners, it's weird to me that they never consider the idea that if God DOES exist, maybe...just maybe...he's sending us a message about raping and polluting his planet through greed. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:17 on May 4, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:They might but I think they're smart enough to not go after losing issues on that extreme end of polling. Overturning abortion is, what, like a 55 -45 issue percentage wise? Contraception is something along the lines of 80 - 20 and even the religious rednecks don't want their 16 year old kids becoming parents. Not saying you're wrong, and obviously you know more than me having worked at PP. I just don't think there are enough of them. People said the exact same thing about going after Roe vs Wade. That's why the right wing punditry are making GBS threads bricks about it, they are concerned about its impact on the election. Although almost ~50% of Americans describe themselves as pro life, ~ 80% think abortion should be legal under 'any' or 'some' circumstances. And that's a number that hasn't changed much for fifty years. The forced birth lobby doesn't care though, they see their chance and are pushing for maximalist no-abortion laws in every red state. They're sick of having to compromise with 'incest' or 'rape' exceptions. The issue is that the 20% forced-birth voters are single-issue while the 80% are not, which is why they wield such disproportionate political power. They also vote in big numbers so they comprise a bigger share of the actual electorate. But, coming at the 80% hard like this ... it's unpredictable.
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Not RWM, but an interesting hypothesis about the leak (which ties nicely into why everyone's talking about the leak, and less about the hideous opinion). https://twitter.com/akapczynski/status/1521494553877962754?t=K4OX9Z3LLd5J3B3of6RSCQ&s=19
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Dr. Gargunza posted:Not RWM, but an interesting hypothesis about the leak (which ties nicely into why everyone's talking about the leak, and less about the hideous opinion). I think Rs leaked it because they wanted to change the narrative away from Ukraine.
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Ben Shapiro knows all https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1521340940127932416
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Why is a supreme court decision being released a month early destructive to the country?
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bird food bathtub posted:Asking 'What will they go after?' is fundamentally misunderstanding the fascist mindset. The answer is 'everything'. Henry A. Wallace posted:“The American Fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact.... They cultivate hate and distrust of both Britain and Russia. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power, so that using the power of the State and the power of the market simultaneously they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.” 
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I AM GRANDO posted:Why is a supreme court decision being released a month early destructive to the country? It's not. Conservative talking heads LOVE to be outraged and this is just the newest bugbear. I love how their focus is on people telling on the court and not the court's abject horrifying decision undoing 50 years of established constitutional law. You know, the real terrorism.
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A conservative leaked it. Now the story is "who did it?" Instead of "supreme court justices erase our rights". How are people still falling for conservative manipulation?
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https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1521585510925451266?t=QunHpvqZt9u63iGeNIeRrA&s=19 Ah yes, a totally valid breakdown of reasons for abortion, not in any way verifiable whatsoever but conveniently slanted to serve as a 'gotcha' for abortion arguments.
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Dr Christmas posted:Supreme Court drafts aren’t classified info or anything, and leaking them probably isn’t illegal anyway. The fact that SCOTUS drafts are not transparent anyways is practically a crime.
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1521585510925451266?t=QunHpvqZt9u63iGeNIeRrA&s=19 Source: dude trust me Even if it was a real data set it's still an awful one because it's a self selecting survey on intake. Are a lot of people going to be checking "incest" on the form unless it was absolutely necessary? Of course people are going to hide that.
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That table should be 100% elective in the first place anyways. I would also accept "none of your business" as a separate category. You know, right to privacy and all that.
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