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Pablo Nergigante posted:What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss? 700 bucks and a trip to worlds.
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HootTheOwl posted:700 bucks and a trip to worlds. Oof, now that's what I call bad beats
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May 3, 2022 23:56
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JackDarko posted:Cap you seem to know your poo poo when it comes to this. Are collector boosters better for someone who doesn’t give a poo poo about commons and uncommons? They put out two articles each set explaining this. First the collecting article which shows the different takes. Kamigawa had ninja & anime for example, and this set has golden age and art deco. Then the smaller ancillary stuff like borderless and metropolis. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/collecting-streets-of-new-capenna-2022-04-07 Then they put out the article showing what special treatments are available in which packs: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/streets-of-new-capenna-product-overview-2022-04-07 They've moved to a pretty steady pattern in the collector and set boosters re what's reserved and which slots are which in the collector packs. In conclusion, don't waste your money like captain does. He's a professional at it and doesn't mind but it really doesn't make sense for a normal person.
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May 4, 2022 00:07
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:They put out two articles each set explaining this. First the collecting article which shows the different takes. Kamigawa had ninja & anime for example, and this set has golden age and art deco. Then the smaller ancillary stuff like borderless and metropolis. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/collecting-streets-of-new-capenna-2022-04-07 Make sense! I appreciate the information regardless. I’ll stick to singles and purchasing the cards I need for a deck.
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May 4, 2022 00:19
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yeah, purchasing singles is what you should always be doing. if you really want to open packs, organize a draft or sealed; if you can't get a limited group going and STILL really want to open packs for no gameplay value then sure get a collector booster so that the cards you open are pretty escalating to opening boxes at a time should only be reserved for LGS staff or people actively trying to resell
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May 4, 2022 00:27
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vegetables posted:I tried to buy barrels of oil instead of Magic cards when I was eleven, but my parents wouldn’t let me your parents were fools then or depending on the year, very smart
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May 4, 2022 00:38
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:In conclusion, don't waste your money like captain does. He's a professional at it and doesn't mind but it really doesn't make sense for a normal person. flatluigi posted:or people actively trying to resell The Professor, of Tolarian Community College, has a long-running series(as you'll see if you actually click through this link to the playlist called The Booster Box Game, in which he opens booster boxes on camera card by card and shows you just how futile trying to profit, let alone break even, from opening a booster box is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmfSmp418gM&hd=1
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May 4, 2022 00:41
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That makes sense honestly because all the money in most sets is a few chase cards. Since the odds are so low of opening any of them you just end up getting a whole lot of bulk cardboard mostly
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May 4, 2022 00:47
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yeah. what I like to do is buy a case of set boosters for myself, and then buy singles of things I need to fill the gaps out. it is absolutely not the optimal course but I enjoy doing it that way, and sometimes like with New Capenna I get lucky and get almost everything I wanted from the boxes anyways, but that's absolutely not the case most of the time, as designed of course. I don't think even a single one of my set boxes would have made their money back, despite pulling the definitely-not-holding-a-cigar ob nixilis showcase version from one. outside of a very few handful of cards, most sets are sub-one-dollar for even the "good" cards. which is great for buying singles!
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May 4, 2022 00:52
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if you derive enjoyment from opening boosters then a booster box is not -EV. but if you can you should draft it with friends.
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May 4, 2022 01:25
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Captain Invictus posted:I don't think even a single one of my set boxes would have made their money back, despite pulling the definitely-not-holding-a-cigar ob nixilis showcase version from one. Jelly. I opened the regular one but I really wanted Suit Nix. I collect cards and I'm currently trying to get one of every common and uncommon printing. To me, it makes sense to crack a box. It also helps keep the LGS I like in business. And cracking packs gives my dopamine starved brain a hit of euphoria and has served to be an effective bribe to get myself to do a chore or errand or something I don't particularly want to do.
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May 4, 2022 01:53
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I wish there were websites with a bunch of cards that are good for x or y archetypes and combos instead of just random top-tier decklists. I wanna see what would be fun in an Obscura deck but I can only like 40 commander decks with Raffine.
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May 4, 2022 02:00
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MonsieurChoc posted:I wish there were websites with a bunch of cards that are good for x or y archetypes and combos instead of just random top-tier decklists. I wanna see what would be fun in an Obscura deck but I can only like 40 commander decks with Raffine. what exactly are you trying to build format-wise? it's hard to just recommend 'good cards' without narrowing it down somewhere
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May 4, 2022 02:25
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EDHREC is obviously commander-focused but it does have combos sorted by color combinations and stuff. You may be able to dig around for ideas. https://edhrec.com/combos
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May 4, 2022 02:26
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I'd also recommend looking at singleton formats like Canadian Highlander or Gladiator (if looking at arena's cardpool) just in terms of variety
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May 4, 2022 02:33
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flatluigi posted:what exactly are you trying to build format-wise? it's hard to just recommend 'good cards' without narrowing it down somewhere Standard I guess. For now at least. I have a couple commander decks, usually I just go with a card I think is cool mechanic or lore-wise and build around that.
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May 4, 2022 02:58
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MonsieurChoc posted:Standard I guess. For now at least. I think your problem is that the format has already selected for the "Good cards" and those are the top decks. Like the good obscura cards in standard are the ones in esper control. If there were good ones outside of it, then there'd be another top deck.
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May 4, 2022 03:08
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Cracking a box open for a set you're excited for is just fun and I'll accept the bad financial decision and mountain of bulk. I actually spent most of today digging through my mountain of unsorted poo poo to either a) set aside for later use, b) put in my trade binder if it is worth over a dollar, c) put in my bulk rare/foil/alt art box if it's not worth over a dollar, or d) dump it in a box of no return, only to be cracked open a few years down the line to see if there's anything that appreciated in value. If nothing else, at least my trade binder is quite thick now.  I just wish I had a better idea of what to do with bulk commons and uncommons that don't really have a home outside of limited. Feels stupid to just throw it away, but I don't really need it on my shelf either.
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May 4, 2022 03:21
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Last month I tried making decks from the sets I had a lot of bulk in. The decks are based on the popular limited archetypes for the set and I kept them at about the same power level. Mostly commons with a few uncommons and 2 rares. No absurdly OP cards. It's fun. The decks have strong flavor identity as a result of being made from the same block, and they play at kind of a limited+ power level. My friends specifically do not buy mtg product or enjoy limited but they like to play with my decks when they come over, and having 3-6 decks per set is like having a mini board game on hand. This weekend I'm hoping to have enough time to make a deck for each Capenna faction.
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Framboise posted:I just wish I had a better idea of what to do with bulk commons and uncommons that don't really have a home outside of limited. Feels stupid to just throw it away, but I don't really need it on my shelf either. Send them to magikids.org? Depending on the sets, I might be interested for my own collection.
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May 4, 2022 04:00
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I've sent flat rate boxes full of cards to a friend with kids, to boys scouts, and to some after school club before. Just poking around magic communities and sometimes you'll see stuff like that pop up. The last few purges I haven't found anyone that wanted the chaff, so I just dumped it into recycling. It's just not worth it for me to hold onto stuff that has the same value as the wrapper it came in.
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May 4, 2022 04:30
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I brought my Drake posted:Jelly. I opened the regular one but I really wanted Suit Nix. No one should have to justify how they spend their disposable income as long as it's not hurting anyone and it brings you a little joy in this stupid hellworld
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how's this for a rakdos draft deck? anything not worth keeping in? extract the truth might not be incredible in draft but it's certainly hosed me over many times already by plucking some real nice later game critter before I can cast it(titan of industry, girder goons, etc) so I want to keep one in
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Captain Invictus posted:how's this for a rakdos draft deck? anything not worth keeping in? It's a sideboard card. Take it out.
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May 4, 2022 13:28
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Theres enough targets that in a draft its playable imo
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Captain Invictus posted:how's this for a rakdos draft deck? anything not worth keeping in? Midnight assassins are surprisingly not that good. They’re not horrible but if you have something you feel like putting in the second is a decent cut.
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Evelyn changes that calculus a little bit imo
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Pocky In My Pocket posted:Evelyn changes that calculus a little bit imo Yeah, they become a lot better when they have "draw 2 cards" as well
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May 4, 2022 14:11
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And one of those draws being from your enemy!
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Captain Invictus posted:how's this for a rakdos draft deck? anything not worth keeping in? You are valuing removal too highly. You have three of the best removal spells in your deck, two of which are unconditional, you don't need to play 5 removal spells, a bad removal artifact, a bad combat trick and a bad discard card. This format is very aggro and tempo oriented, sitting back on 4+ mana and not dropping creatures is just going to get you stomped over by 4/4s. I would cut: - Daring Escape - Ominous Parcel - Extract the Truth -1x Deal Gone Bad - Big Score And put in any creatures you have to replace them. In the end though you probably don't have enough to cut all that, which means in the future in this format I would recommend not drafting so many mediocre removal spells when you have enough premium ones, and value your board state much higher with more powerful creatures. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 16:03 on May 4, 2022 |
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Framboise posted:Cracking a box open for a set you're excited for is just fun and I'll accept the bad financial decision and mountain of bulk. Make cubes for each set with your bulk. Throw rares from the set that you never have use for in there as well.
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Bought the Riveteers and Cabaretti Commander decks today, and for some reason, the Riveteers deck had two copies of Henzie "Toolbox" Torre and The Beamtown Bullies. Is that a relatively common packing error for Commander decks?
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Captain Invictus posted:how's this for a rakdos draft deck? anything not worth keeping in? ominous parcel isn't really necessary in two color decks unless you're starved for removal. i dont think you're getting anything out of big score for a similar reason, since its kinda bad for just card draw. needing the draw AND the treasures makes it really work.
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W.T. Fits posted:Bought the Riveteers and Cabaretti Commander decks today, and for some reason, the Riveteers deck had two copies of Henzie "Toolbox" Torre and The Beamtown Bullies. Is that a relatively common packing error for Commander decks? This happened with one of the professors precons too. I guess QC is all over the place.
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Captain Invictus posted:in regards to new capenna packs: you get 4 foil commons and 2 foil uncommons and a foil full art land in every new capenna collector pack, straight up. so subtract that from whatever rares/mythics you expect from each pack. then you get 2-3 showcase frame versions of a fairly wide variety of cards, some in foil, and occasional gilded frames. then you get your commander full art card, then whatever foil rares/mythics, then the last slot before the token slot is the big hit full art foil/gilded rare or mythic/etched foil/showcase foil etc.
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Probably, since the List slot us the only was to get four rares in a NC pack. Wild Card, Rare slot, foil and list. It just comes down to personal preference, I like cracking packs as much as anyone but I can't get into Collectors packs. I've opened a few but the variance is too high, it's closer to actual gambling than anything else Wizards has put out. To the point that typical gambler's fallacies start coming into play; "you can't just buy one and expect to hit big, you have to buy a whole box and you should at least get your value back." All the people cracking CB for the lottery cards does at least have an effect of tanking the prices of regular rares and mythics, though whether that's a good thing depends on if you're a constructed or limited player.
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The World Inferno posted:how's the draft experience for New Capenna
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I want to buy a box of the new set as a gift. I know you never come out ahead on these things, that's fine. I'm assuming Set is better than Draft for something like that right? That's the one with more chances for cool stuff?
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Aphrodite posted:I want to buy a box of the new set as a gift. Set is better for just pulling cards and draft is better for actually drafting. And actually drafting is probably the best usecase for buying a box.
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