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More confusingly, the chains on the baby's side are relaxed for some reason, so it's like a fixed weight where the devil one is playing fair.
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Rall: Good Luck with Sanctions Ted Rall posted:The Russian invasion of Ukraine prompted the usual American response of imposing economic sanctions on Russia and Russian nationals. You only have to look at Cuba and Iran to see how consistently ineffective sanctions are. To the contrary, they tend to increase the popularity of the targeted government as a a siege mentality sets in. First Dog on the Moon: Here's how to make Prime Minister Scott’s classic no-cook chicken Korma 
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Trapezium Dave posted:Rall: Good Luck with Sanctions This is so loving stupid, by the logic of this cartoon nobody should care about sanctions because they don't do anything, when in reality they cause lots of suffering while not causing regime change Leave it to Rall to twist a reasonable perspective to mind boggling dumbass lunacy
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May 4, 2022 11:20
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I'm sure Rall will come out with a cartoon advocating for his preferred method of opposing the Russian invasion any day now
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The King has returned.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Rall: Good Luck with Sanctions Interesting seeing Cubans proudly flying the flag of Puerto Rico.
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Mordaedil posted:More confusingly, the chains on the baby's side are relaxed for some reason, so it's like a fixed weight where the devil one is playing fair. The devil is deliberately giving the advantage to the pro-life side, in order to maximize human suffering. AGC
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Pants Donkey posted:The King has returned. drat I really thought that was the Worms Armageddon desktop icon for a moment there Mr. Belpit posted:Interesting seeing Cubans proudly flying the flag of Puerto Rico. lmao
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Trapezium Dave posted:Rall: Good Luck with Sanctions "Anti-apartheid sanctions only made the South African government more popular" 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:drat I really thought that was the Worms Armageddon desktop icon for a moment there Make a worms map based on Putin's bald loving head. Do it!
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Rall, sanctions weak isn't the way to get people to cheer for your team. You need to lead with the correct statement that sanctions against Cuba and Iran are evil things whose only purpose is to cause suffering in the civilian population. Then you can try to claim that the Russian sanctions are similarly motivated by spite and cruelty. It'd still be a lie but at least it's one that fits a narrative with things that are true. How can someone this bad at their job be paid for it?
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Terrible Opinions posted:Rall, sanctions weak isn't the way to get people to cheer for your team. You need to lead with the correct statement that sanctions against Cuba and Iran are evil things whose only purpose is to cause suffering in the civilian population. Then you can try to claim that the Russian sanctions are similarly motivated by spite and cruelty. It'd still be a lie but at least it's one that fits a narrative with things that are true. How can someone this bad at their job be paid for it? The firehose model of contradictory propaganda narratives, targeting every line of possible political division to encourage civic disengagement, doesn't require quality so much as quantity and diversity. Like Rall himself, the marks just need to believe they are reaching their beliefs independently, or enshrine their ignorance and cynical detachment as insight. It still works.
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Yeah but his whole audience is this thread. The CSPAM cartoon thread doesn't even share him. Whereas Chinese propaganda is well made enough to get nominated Oscars and generally be media I'd recommend albeit with cavaets. It makes sense that China a better run vastly more powerful nation has better propaganda to a failing petro state, but you'd think Russia would at least try.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah but his whole audience is this thread. The CSPAM cartoon thread doesn't even share him. Whereas Chinese propaganda is well made enough to get nominated Oscars and generally be media I'd recommend albeit with cavaets. It makes sense that China a better run vastly more powerful nation has better propaganda to a failing petro state, but you'd think Russia would at least try. Rall writes columns for Sputnik that receive wider syndication, including through conservative channels (a quick googling finds bylines as of last November in the WSJ, for instance). Although his set of channels and syndicated platforms were greatly reduced in the period following the 2014 invasion of Ukraine when media started generally paying more attention to how Russia operates, he and similar entities had a much larger audience for many years; Rall was a prominent figure and his cartoons appeared in a lot of places. And, again, the point is not to persuade large audiences; it's to poo poo up discourse with a whole bunch of material from seemingly separate sources, that self-propogate through the people they persuade. Rall is one of many such angles of attack. He's just an obvious one that we see a lot here because he's old, he's well-documented and relatively obvious, and here, he is effective, however lovely he may be. It's a couple months old, but one impression from propaganda-watchers posted in the Ukraine war thread is that the recent shifts in Russian propaganda aren't that they've stopped or are becoming less effective, but rather that they've moved a lot of their resources to targeting audiences in India and China that are, at the moment, more important. China also runs a wide range of propaganda materials of varying quality, even if, at least until relatively recently, they used direct persuasion lines ("here is the thing we want you to believe about China") and haven't tried the same civic disruption approach. They've also got lovely propaganda cartoonists, even in their most direct foreign facing outlet (these used to be posted here regularly, though unfortunately that's stopped as the forum continues to be run into the ground). Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 4, 2022 |
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Sanctions are bad because the people in power can just reroute resources to them and let the people suffer. Then they can blame the US, which isn’t even propaganda since we are the ones doing it. But that may be the intent, as then capitalists can show how bad things are as proof that country’s way of doing things is bad as opposed to our pure and wholesome hegemonic capitalism. As if a country cut off from the world can create a utopia without any problems. In short: Rall wrong but for different reasons than he may think.
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You're investing significantly too much power into the influence of news paper articles and people who discuss politics to the degree of this forum. He's probably better than literally nothing at all, but still strictly inferior to the guy they send around to every history channel and spike tv event claiming to be ex-spetsnaz who makes up Russian martial arts moves. Given that the outsized belief in Russia's military and political power has been their best crafted lie for decades.
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So, while this isn't strictly a "political cartoon", is political and it is a cartoon: From My Dad is Dracula by Jason Poland. Here's his Instagram page.
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Terrible Opinions posted:You're investing significantly too much power into the influence of news paper articles and people who discuss politics to the degree of this forum. He's probably better than literally nothing at all, but still strictly inferior to the guy they send around to every history channel and spike tv event claiming to be ex-spetsnaz who makes up Russian martial arts moves. Given that the outsized belief in Russia's military and political power has been their best crafted lie for decades. As my post already said, Rall as propagandist is now much less influential than he used to be, and he used to have much more influence, but the entire point is they do not have to choose. Spike guy and Rall and troll farms and radio programs and "independent media groups" and faked "leak" sites, they do hundreds of things, targeting multiple subgroups from multiple directions. Some of them get discarded, many stick around and their combined effects create enclosed consensus. The goal is to get people to buy into the subclaims and use them to poo poo up discussion by ruining a shared set of facts or beliefs and inducing conflict. It works.
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I'm not sure Rall is a good use of Russian state funds though, probably should have paid for some more conscripts or something which might have made a difference. I agree with Rall more than most but even when he's right he kinda makes me want to be wrong.
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Discendo Vox posted:As my post already said, Rall as propagandist is now much less influential than he used to be, and he used to have much more influence, but the entire point is they do not have to choose. Spike guy and Rall and troll farms and radio programs and "independent media groups" and faked "leak" sites, they do hundreds of things, targeting multiple subgroups from multiple directions. Some of them get discarded, many stick around and their combined effects create enclosed consensus. The goal is to get people to buy into the subclaims and use them to poo poo up discussion by ruining a shared set of facts or beliefs and inducing conflict. It works.
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Kind of wonder how chuds who think they are feminists like Ishida will take this. Eh they will find a way to say this is good actually.
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Twibbit posted:Kind of wonder how chuds who think they are feminists like Ishida will take this. Eh they will find a way to say this is good actually. Seen a lot of blaming trans people on Twitter, so probably that
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah but his whole audience is this thread. No, it's potentially much wider. His target audience is everyone who hates themselves and wants to waste time looking at childish doodles accompanied by petty snark.
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Twibbit posted:Kind of wonder how chuds who think they are feminists like Ishida will take this. Eh they will find a way to say this is good actually. They're protecting women's right to choose to be a mother, the quintessential woman, without being pressured into getting an abortion by woke anti-woman groups.
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Rall already made a comic saying that sanctions against Russia will harm the Russian people: He also made a comic saying that sanctions against Russia are actually good:  So yeah, I think this lends support to Discendo Vox's statement that Rall is just using multiple arguments to lead different groups of people to the same conclusion: sanctions against Russia should end, because, depending on whatever argument best appeals to your politics, they are are useless, harmful, or good for Russia.
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The extra small censor bar is what makes it.
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Those kids are aborted what do they care, it's not going to help them? To go with the argument used for student loans, every fetus should suffer just like they did. It's only fair!
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It's as if... cis men don't have uterus so they can't get pregnant?? So it really doesn't affect them? But trans men might have and their well-being is affected by abortion legislation? I'm no expert on the topic, but I have a feeling that McCoy as a cis male transphobe should STFU.
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gently caress you, McCoy. It takes a serious case of CHUD smoothbrain to take a victory lap and still find time to kick down at trans people while you do it. Kellies Nomination: Least Concealed Bigotry (LGBTQ) Skios fucked around with this message at 21:39 on May 4, 2022 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Those kids are aborted what do they care, it's not going to help them? To go with the argument used for student loans, every fetus should suffer just like they did. It's only fair! And what's more they get a free pass to eternal paradise, unburdened with original sin. It is actually a moral duty to abort as many fetuses as possible
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 quote:HOW DARE YOU TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO KILL BABIES, THEY SHRIEKED Because of course any take Garrison would have would include insane conspiracy theories. I know I trust the word of "The Red Pill Expo!"
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Raised By Birds posted:
How DARE you criticize our sacred right to force women to give birth and quite loving possibly die! Don't they know that's a central part of the Republican platform?!?
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 Rowe:  Yesterday was the treasurer's debate; Josh Frydenberg against Jim Chalmers. Under the podium is what the other treasurer was attacking: Frydenberg is hiding all his government's baggage and Chalmers Labor's policies from the 2019 election. The mother-in-law reference is due to an anecdote that Frydenberg keeps repeating about his independent challenger's mother-in-law who said she would vote for him: Monique Ryan says family should be left out of Kooyong battle after mother-in-law anecdote (ABC). Broelman:  Knight:  Scott Morrison had the power to choose an election date and he chose the last possible date before the Governor General starts choosing for him so I guess that's now the definition of "gunning it". Shakespeare:  Scott Morrison warns overly powerful ICAC (Indepedent Commission Against Corruption) could turn Australia into ‘public autocracy’ (Guardian). Wilcox:  Former PM John Howard who spoke at Liberal MP Trent Zimmerman's campaign launch Tuesday. Howard’s stark warning to Liberals: any ‘teal seat’ loss spells end of government (SMH). Leak, Son of Leak:  This has all the feel of someone who couldn't be bothered reading a summary of the treasurer's debate and so instead it's an attack on Labor for running a campaign. (Also the government isn't really campaigning on their record, more so their vibe).
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