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Hokay time to be a cranky rear end in a top hat for a minute. I went there with the owner back when I saw his wares at SBK and tried to give some feedback on what he's selling at race oriented events. He bounced off the feedback hard and took it as a personal insult rather than improve the line. What his stuff is like three years later, I don't really know. I won't ride with it.   Buttons and snaps? those are gonna dig into your wrists and catch on your gauntlets. It doesn't matter in the context of Dore-Alley fair in San Francisco. But on a track, It does. Note none of the stitching is doubled or reinforced with some pulls already happening.  Who carries their wallet or lanyard full of security guard keys with them on a trackday onto the track? Nobody. It does not need this pocket. This is answering a question nobody asked. This zipper is in an area where its going to see abrasion on a slide.  Well, at least like the now 20 year old T-Age, it has a frontal relief zipper. Rear relief as you've seen, also included, those race sessions, anything can happen. Krystal's sliders and Grindrs are too irresistible sometime. Speaking of products from Dainese.  I'd like double stitching at minimum for that kinda dough.
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Seeing those close up shots, I would never ride fast in those.
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Slavvy posted:Seeing those close up shots, I would never ride fast in those. That's my sentiments. Not any moto anyway.
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Well, that’s disappointing to hear. Found a company that makes gear I think my partner would love (she has her MSF scheduled in June and rode scooters for years) and they make exactly the shirt I want, but in a big guy cut and maybe in brighter colors. Anyone know anything about Wind and Throttle? I can also move this to the gear thread, but we were talking about it here, so … edit: Looks like they're actually more of a distributor of smaller brands. That shirt is made by an Australian company who does make men's clothing, but not at a size that would work. It's a start, at least? Geekboy fucked around with this message at 02:26 on May 2, 2022 |
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Alright this is what I think makes sense to get to start off for gear I'm still going to try and see what I can fit from my friends selection but I'm quite a bit larger than him , so I don't really think most of his stuff will fit me aside from maybe gloves I plan to goto a local store tomorrow and try on helmets to get the proper size, and maybe some pants and jackets as I'm not really sure how this stuff fits (is it all made for in-shape skinny types?)  Anything that doesn't make sense in that list, I picked two jackets but wanted the cheaper of the two, the boots seem to have good ankle support, and the gloves look like the same gloves I have in my trunk for shooting with The back protector fits into the Shade H2O jacket, seems like it's prob a good idea to have as much protection as possible? Pants I assume are good, I have lots of jeans but they're not made for motorcycles they're only 'fashion' jeans 
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May 2, 2022 02:37
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skip the icon poo poo for fucks sake. probably the scorpion too.
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I think you'll be pleased with most of that gear, but I would recommend looking for a non-Icon helmet. They do cool paint schemes but the build quality is often poo poo. Airflites are a long oval shape; I have a long oval head so I bought one thinking "eh for $250 it can't be that bad" and it was in fact bad. Just put together poorly, the internal visor slider felt cheap and jammed easily, the rear spoiler adhesive started peeling after the helmet was worn for maybe 5 hours. Scorpion, Shark, HJC, Bell, AGV all make better mid-priced helmets
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cursedshitbox posted:skip the icon poo poo for fucks sake. since this is the newbie thread, some feedback on 'why' would be helpful is it just the cheapo brand for bike stuff? i thought that was joe rocket Jazzzzz posted:I think you'll be pleased with most of that gear, but I would recommend looking for a non-Icon helmet. They do cool paint schemes but the build quality is often poo poo. Airflites are a long oval shape; I have a long oval head so I bought one thinking "eh for $250 it can't be that bad" and it was in fact bad. Just put together poorly, the internal visor slider felt cheap and jammed easily, the rear spoiler adhesive started peeling after the helmet was worn for maybe 5 hours. thanks that makes sense, i just picked that helmet cause it had all sorts of features like internal tinted visor and whatever else... but until i try some on i won't really know what shape i should be looking for! hopefully tomorrow
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I put 50,000 miles on an icon helmet. It involved taking a drill to it's visor pivots to drill out galled threads. Using 3M flexible adhesive to hold the base trim gasket on twice a year. Seasonal (every quarter to half year) replacement of the hinges and visors. The fake mx peak tried to fly the gently caress off at highway speeds. All for a four loving pound almost $500 helmet with the latest in 1980s safety tech. Buy a different lid, bro. poo poo even joe rocket is better.
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Revit makes great stuff, but I’d try to find an AA rated jacket of theirs. Their website says they have 66 of them so something should fit your needs/price.
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Ditch the ICON, buy a Shoei or Arai helmet, and call the job done.
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Steakandchips posted:Ditch the ICON, buy a Shoei or Arai helmet, and call the job done. This is fine unless they don't fit your head shape, or you can't afford the price. There are plenty of decent helmets that aren't Shoei or Arai though and don't cost the earth. LS2, HJC, Scorpion, Bell etc etc.
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Aren't Rev'it especially slim fitting? Shouldn't they look to try another brand if that is a concern?
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I fit into a size 50 Rev'it one piece, while i don't nearly fit into a Dainese or Alpinestars one. At least compared to the Italian brands they're a bit more boxy. But it is definitely hard to find a well fitting suit if you have some semblance of a belly.
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May 2, 2022 11:42
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Blue On Blue posted:Alright this is what I think makes sense to get to start off for gear Steakandchips posted:Ditch the ICON, buy a Shoei or Arai helmet, and call the job done. Lungboy posted:This is fine unless they don't fit your head shape, or you can't afford the price. There are plenty of decent helmets that aren't Shoei or Arai though and don't cost the earth. LS2, HJC, Scorpion, Bell etc etc. He picked a $430 ICON helmet. He can afford a Shoei or Arai.
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Steakandchips posted:He picked a $430 ICON helmet. He can afford a Shoei or Arai. A quick look on Revzilla (just to get a rough comparison) shows one Shoei under $500 and zero Arai under $500, and that still doesn't solve the issue of the shape potentially being wrong.
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I’ve been nothing but pleased with my Scorpion helmet, would very much recommend trying some of them on. Mine was $300 brand new a few years back and I’ve never had an issue with it.
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Don't worry I'll be trying on helmets today so then I'll know what weird head shape I have I'd like to find something that isn't either black, or team livery
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Blue On Blue posted:Don't worry I'll be trying on helmets today so then I'll know what weird head shape I have I know I'm a dork, but there are many good arguments for a white or at least loud color helmet. I don't recall where I saw the video, but a white helmet zipping above cars etc. is a ton more noticeable than a black one.
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Aye white are statistically safer iirc. Whether that's down to being easier to be seen or more that the kind of person to buy a white helmet just rides in a safer manner in the first place has never been answered though.
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it's cause you look like a cop
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Lungboy posted:Aye white are statistically safer iirc. Whether that's down to being easier to be seen or more that the kind of person to buy a white helmet just rides in a safer manner in the first place has never been answered though. Yeah it might just be correlation, but there was a video on youtube that had some good demonstrations on improved visibilty and I bough into it.
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Xakura posted:Aren't Rev'it especially slim fitting? Shouldn't they look to try another brand if that is a concern? The fit is like a tall, slim ish, think of your typical Dutch person. But not super small/short like A* or Dianese.
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Rev’it was the only brand I could affordably find good gear as a tall, fat person. That wasn’t STREET & STEEL JUSTICE THIN BLUE LINE GUN POCKET EDITION, I mean.
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Everybody is making GBS threads on icon and i can't speak for anything but those boots that i do have and they're pretty good. They're fairly wide and comfortable enough that you can walk around for a while, and the construction seems fine. I wouldn't expect to wear them all day at work or anything though, they're pretty warm. The only thing i don't like is the nonsense hiking boot style, molded sole on the heel and the fake welted style sole on the front Also i don't know what website you're looking at or if you're not US or something but they're only $185 on RevZilla right now. Edit: Geekboy posted:
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Russian Bear posted:think of your typical Dutch person 
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Dog Case posted:Also i don't know what website you're looking at or if you're not US or something but they're only $185 on RevZilla right now. Sorry, he’s Canadian.
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Well i tried on some helmets and my friend helped me measure my noggin' I'm 59cm, which puts me into large for all the charts I'm looking at Most of the helmets I tried on at the store (they only had Icon and some Bell's kicking around) Large seemed ok if a little big, but medium was too small so... Large it is? And yeah sorry aboot that bud I'm Canadian
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Blue On Blue posted:Well i tried on some helmets and my friend helped me measure my noggin' Try more brands
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Blue On Blue posted:Well i tried on some helmets and my friend helped me measure my noggin' "If a little big" is way too big. "Too small" is probably about right. But yeah, try more brands. I'm normally pushing XL in hatsizes, but ended up with mediums in helmets. Your face/headshape has a huge influence on fit. The guy in the shop who helmet first time around was super-knowledgable and without him, despite having read all the guides, etc, I would have walked out with a helmet far too big. Find a different store, with more choice. ImplicitAssembler fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 2, 2022 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:"If a little big" is way too big. "Too small" is probably about right. But yeah, try more brands. Well the difference between a little big and too small is I couldn't fit my head into the Mediums without taking my ears off first I need to find a place with more helmet selection
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Blue On Blue posted:Well the difference between a little big and too small is I couldn't fit my head into the Mediums without taking my ears off first Are you putting it on right? Really pulling out (not down) on the straps?
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Are you putting it on right? Really pulling out (not down) on the straps? Yeah i had my friend with me that showed me how to put them on For some reason all the gear stores around here are closed monday , so i'll go try to get to one later in the week Blue On Blue fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 2, 2022 |
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A neat trick for helmet sizing is looking for a helmet where the pads are interchangeable among sizes so that you can adjust the fit. My HJC DS-X1 is a large with XL cheek pads. That one at least they make the pads in varying thicknesses in 5mm increments and they're interchangable for all sizes. It's a lot more common to find that only xs&s, m&l etc. are interchangeable so you have to do some research to see if that's an option for specific manufacturers, models and sizes.
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Blue On Blue posted:Yeah i had my friend with me that showed me how to put them on Yeah, same here. Closed Sunday/Monday.
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I’ve got a big fuckin dome and a lot of distance between my ears and forehead. I’ve had good luck with Bell, 7Zero7 (Cycle Gear house brand but oddly well certified) and my current Scorpion, which offers a range of cheek pad sizes. To clarify further what some other posters are getting at, a brand new helmet that fits right feels too tight. If it goes over your ears off and on without danger of taking a piece of them, it’s probably right. Pads will break in after a few hours. When I got my current helmet, I wore it every day while doing the dishes and other chores for about a week with some rides in between. The headaches went away within that time and it feels great now. I’ve been watching the MotoGP documentary lately and there is a lot of footage of the riders putting helmets on and taking them off and you’d think they were trying to escape a noose with the faces they make.
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As long as the polystyrene inner shell doesn't dig into your head, tight is fine. If you don't have hamster cheeks if you look in the mirror, it's probably too big. Don't overdo it, of course. When i first bought a helmet, i trusted the judgment of the sales person. After riding for a while it turned out it was too big, because i found myself tilting the helmet upwards occasionally because it'd sag down. The same helmet, one size smaller, felt way too tight to unexperienced me. Bought the same smaller size helmet from clearance a while later (the one i thought was way too small) and even now i feel like it could be juuuust a bit tighter. When i wear a balaclava, it's perfect.
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If you're in between M and L and can't find one with changeable cheek pads, Scorpion do Air helmets that have inflatable balloons that push the pads more firmly against your cheeks, could be worth a try.
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ok so gear aside, what is the general opinion on something old (and cheap to buy) like a BMW K75 or K100? I can find a few around my area in the $2k (CDN) range, and my reading tells me they are very reliable is it a horrible thing to look at, much like an old BMW might be for repair costs? I am interested in doing a lot of the maintenance myself, save from anything that requires specialized tools or a welder
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You answered your own question there. No an old bmw is not a good thing to buy, not reliable, not remotely fun or rewarding or even educational to work on. They are also very heavy, garbage to ride, an appalling learner bike. Learning to ride, learning to spanner - select one, you can't do both. If you want to learn to ride while doing basic maintenance, get japanese bike from this century. If your want to learn to touch bikes deeply while not riding much, if at all, get a japanese bike from the nineties. No European bikes, no Harleys, no Enfields, no obscure classic bullshit, absolutely never anything older than the nineties.
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