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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

DS9 had a good pilot, but Voyager had a great one.

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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Pinterest Mom posted:

DS9 had a good pilot, but Voyager had a great one.

The fuckin old timey jamboree? Couldn't disagree more

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I got 32 minutes into Picard, saw there was still a quarter hour left and just wanted it to loving end.


EDIT: and Jurati looked so loving stupid as a borg.

Just so loving stupid. Like they digitally mapped her face onto a balloon.

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 17:11 on May 5, 2022

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow

Pinterest Mom posted:

lol no I meant it as a non-spoilery and jokey way to illustrate a general idea of how graphic/violent it gets. "If you'd let your daughter watch TNG S1 despite the mentions of rape gangs, then SNW is fine".

Oh man. I just couldn’t believe it was even possible but, well, this is the franchise that turned a main character into a pedophile groomer with a pointless throwaway line and never addressed it again so

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Charity Porno posted:

From old Trek id argue only DS9 had a good pilot, and even that had some questionable acting/directing choices

Yeah, but there is a different level of expectation now that you have 10 episodes in a season instead of 20 something.
A modern show that gets maybe 40% of the screen time compared to a older show should be tight and well written, because they just don't have the time to waste.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
I like that they used Jan 6th footage because those people really need a crystal clear message we don't want them in the Fandom. They seem to not get it, repeatedly, probably because they are dumb

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

also lol at how terrible Picard s2 ended up

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Peachfart posted:

also lol at how terrible Picard s2 ended up

I haven't even watched it yet. I had time to watch one before sleep and lol of.it was gonna be that over SNW

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Gonz posted:

I watched the Picard finale first.

Because loving LOL.

LMAO, even.

I know Strange New Worlds will be better than this.

Edit: Bwhahahah the Borg joined the Federation!

I didn't watch a single episode this season besides the premiere but i'm totally watching the finale for this spoiler alone

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
Picard season 2 is a scientific experiment to figure out exactly how many premises and plot hooks you can set up without needing to bring any of them to fruition

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

I didn't even finish it, after seeing Q getting a big ol hug from his friend Picard I realized I no longer like next gen

The legacy of JJ continues of ruining the ending of everything good, should have known ever since he was in control of Lost that his rotten progeny would wreck havoc

I've got a bad feeling about SNW

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Q should die and then immediately be replaced with Q, who is like "I must execute my predecessor's last will. Picard, you've been bequeathed to me!"

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Picard:
lol Soong is such a glorious dick. Khan folder sure why not. lol Wesley. Sure, take Kore.

Well that clue that Borg-Jurati left them sure was solved in a very disappointing and direct way. :rip:

Dang Picard, Beverly is gonna be pissed next season. Or maybe she will die offscreen between seasons like her husband did :v:

Everything played out as predicted, which is fine. Certainly better than stupid twists for the sake of having them. I wish the execution was done better though, mostly with the Kore and Talyn stuff. Everything worked out for everyone and they all got a happy ending with some connection.

Strange New Worlds:
Well that was a lot of fun. Pike continues to be the best.

Pike's speech was nice, but I want an alternate ending where a bunch of their population refuses to believe it's real and nukes themselves anyways because they believe in their version of Q / alt right / nazi poo poo / other conspiracy poo poo. Gonna need more than a feel good speech to fix what's broken in society.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

:siren: Y’all :siren:

Strange New Worlds… is good

- the humor
- the look
- the performances

Like, I’ve got minor quibbles but my god was that premiere promising.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Also :chefkiss: at Pike watching The Day the Earth Stood Still at the beginning and then basically becoming Klaatu at the end to help resolve the conflict.

:agreed:

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 3 days!)

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Pike's speech was nice, but I want an alternate ending where a bunch of their population refuses to believe it's real and nukes themselves anyways because they believe in their version of Q / alt right / nazi poo poo / other conspiracy poo poo. Gonna need more than a feel good speech to fix what's broken in society.

they can do something like this in a later episode, not the pilot of the show that is supposed to be (or hoped to be, at least) a course correction.

i agree they went too far, said that already, i think the should have just left it on a note of pike did his best, there were indications his message was received well, but who can know - we've done the best we can. not 'the kids now worship the enterprise, 100% of the planet has had a change of heart'.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Picard:
lol Soong is such a glorious dick. Khan folder sure why not. lol Wesley. Sure, take Kore.

Didn't Brent Spiner have a cameo on Enterprise where he was trying to restart the eugenics project, and the episode ends with him being caught and saying "maybe I'll try androids, it'll take a century or two, but I'll do it!"

I'm glad they brought him back to do exactly the same thing again.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
spiner is the only good thing about star trek picard

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

killer crane posted:

Didn't Brent Spiner have a cameo on Enterprise where he was trying to restart the eugenics project, and the episode ends with him being caught and saying "maybe I'll try androids, it'll take a century or two, but I'll do it!"

I'm glad they brought him back to do exactly the same thing again.

Yeah, they had him on a fun and above-average 2(3?) parter about Singh/Soong stuff but then it also really canonized how apparently even the producers and writers confused Singh and Soong?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



roomtone posted:

i agree they went too far, said that already, i think the should have just left it on a note of pike did his best, there were indications his message was received well, but who can know - we've done the best we can. not 'the kids now worship the enterprise, 100% of the planet has had a change of heart'.

Yea that would have been nice.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

Yeah, they had him on a fun and above-average 2(3?) parter about Singh/Soong stuff but then it also really canonized how apparently even the producers and writers confused Singh and Soong?

It’s the Noonien. Gets ‘em every time.

TheBuilder
Jul 11, 2001
Despite all the heartbreak in this episode, the second season of Star Trek: Picard featured brilliant storytelling from start to finish. It built on key aspects from the first season, fleshing out this new world while connecting to the much larger Star Trek canon. Characters were smartly utilized to propel the central part along while developing their own storylines and giving them as much closure as the overarching plot received.

Rating: A+

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Really liking Strange New Worlds. Pike is probably my favorite thing to come out of live action nu-Trek.

Belan
May 7, 2007
So I'm guessing Pagh-wraiths are the main baddy of Picard S3.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.
Bearded Anson Mount made me want to see him and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau in a B movie where they play estranged brothers, sort of like Double Impact with Jean-Claude Van Damme and Jean-Claude Van Damme.

I haven't actually watched the episode yet, but drat they look so similar.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
picard finale owned, y'all are full of poo poo. i haven't seen it but the borg join the federation, they kill off at least one of these dweebs, what else did u want at this point?

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
I vaguely described this season of Picard to my wife and she’s been angry about it ever since.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Belan posted:

So I'm guessing Pagh-wraiths are the main baddy of Picard S3.

At this point I’m just hoping they stay as far away from direct DS9 connections as possible because clearly nothing worthwhile can come from it.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Another great thing about that SNW premiere? Dynamic camera movements when appropriate that didn’t give me motion sickness and nice slow flat shots for scenes where people just talk to each other.

Please keep that one spin-loving director away from SNW at all costs.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

Wil Wheaton has somehow become a worst actor and he wasn't that great to begin, total pickme energy he must have really kissed someone's rear end for that cameo

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Cranappleberry posted:

spiner is the only good thing about star trek picard

would u say spiner is, the backbone

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Another great thing about that SNW premiere? Dynamic camera movements when appropriate that didn’t give me motion sickness and nice slow flat shots for scenes where people just talk to each other.

Please keep that one spin-loving director away from SNW at all costs.

Except that shot of the transporter. Why are we spinning around people transporting off the ship?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Another great thing about that SNW premiere? Dynamic camera movements when appropriate that didn’t give me motion sickness and nice slow flat shots for scenes where people just talk to each other.

Please keep that one spin-loving director away from SNW at all costs.

Oh man are you not going to like it when they visit the Merry-go-round planet in ep.8. Probably not the bouncy castle planet of ep.9 either.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Khanstant posted:

picard finale owned, y'all are full of poo poo. i haven't seen it but the borg join the federation, they kill off at least one of these dweebs, what else did u want at this point?



That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010


tune in to star trek: picard for lore hits the true fans will love such as, when khan conquered the world in 1997 he was a 1 yo baby

TheBuilder
Jul 11, 2001
gently caress both of those images

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

TheBuilder posted:

gently caress both of those images

Truly cursed poo poo.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

I'm glad Wil got to be involved, I liked Wesley as a kid and he's ok in my book <3

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

excellent, everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
It's sort of criminal how good the Picard theme is for how bad a show it is

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Did Q bring back Elrond back to life then?

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GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


As an old as hell Trek guy, SNW is loving *chef's kiss*

Doing the fake-out of bringing Kirk's brother on as one of the cast was great! I look forward to Sam Kirk being on the show.

GATOS Y VATOS fucked around with this message at 18:51 on May 5, 2022

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