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Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

MSPain posted:

i just finished up a somewhat aggressive electronic music EP. this is the best track imo:

https://soundcloud.com/borden-jardine/n_never-1?in=borden-jardine/sets/never-ep

the lead sound is a vintage korg mono/poly through a rat pedal :rock:

there is an accompanying doom wad if you are into that sort of thing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128975-never-doom2-pwadtechno-ep-release/

hell yeah this is some extremely sick techno body music and I am down

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RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.



MSPain posted:

i just finished up a somewhat aggressive electronic music EP. this is the best track imo:

https://soundcloud.com/borden-jardine/n_never-1?in=borden-jardine/sets/never-ep

the lead sound is a vintage korg mono/poly through a rat pedal :rock:

there is an accompanying doom wad if you are into that sort of thing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128975-never-doom2-pwadtechno-ep-release/

gently caress yeah, this rules. I need to do more of this poo poo on my modular rig.

Also I want to do music for WADs again, I did some PSX-DOOM style drone ambient for one back in the day: "downlord" got used in Job's map Point of No Return. And another one got used for the zombie map in Action Doom 2. :)

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Yo that song is great, gonna check the WAD out later tonight :hellyeah:

The TX-6 arrived a whole day early! Really cannot understate how loving tiny this thing is, quarter for scale



All of my cables arrive... tomorrow :negative:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Videos I've seen so far suggest it's almost too small. Adult hands have trouble manipulating those orange dials.

I still think it's worth drooling over though.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

"industrial design"

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

MSPain posted:

i just finished up a somewhat aggressive electronic music EP. this is the best track imo:

https://soundcloud.com/borden-jardine/n_never-1?in=borden-jardine/sets/never-ep

the lead sound is a vintage korg mono/poly through a rat pedal :rock:

there is an accompanying doom wad if you are into that sort of thing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128975-never-doom2-pwadtechno-ep-release/

This is serious Bloodrayne fighting on the dancefloor material

(ED: I mean that in a good way, I loved that soundtrack)

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006
it would not be out of character for TE to release a line of gear for elves

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Not elves but they do have a clothing line for rich dork weirdos.

With this new hardware I think I’m giving up hope that they’re going to patch the OP-1 line-in to stop popping when using USB audio out.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

New Zealand can eat me posted:

Yo that song is great, gonna check the WAD out later tonight :hellyeah:

The TX-6 arrived a whole day early! Really cannot understate how loving tiny this thing is, quarter for scale



All of my cables arrive... tomorrow :negative:

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

MSPain posted:

i just finished up a somewhat aggressive electronic music EP. this is the best track imo:

https://soundcloud.com/borden-jardine/n_never-1?in=borden-jardine/sets/never-ep

the lead sound is a vintage korg mono/poly through a rat pedal :rock:

there is an accompanying doom wad if you are into that sort of thing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128975-never-doom2-pwadtechno-ep-release/

This is very cool and tying it into a WAD is really cool as well. Haven't seen that before.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


All I did was gently caress with the knobs and buttons before I put it away. I'll have some noise soon

I was kind of hoping the tiny knobs would feel and function like the OP1 knobs at first (free spinning, each increment clicks, use shift to 'fine tune' anywhere and reduce the increment), but it makes sense that they're simply 0-127. It's very smooth and the turning resistance matches the expensive weight of anything else "nice", likewise on the sliders.

You definitely don't need to grasp the knobs with two fingers to adjust with precision, fingertip pokes are reliably deliberate. I have sasquatch hands (can palm a basketball w/ practice) and can see where they're coming from, but put more value in being able to manipulate many knobs with just a finger or two. My main use case will be assigning them to all of the values I typically wouldn't have simultaneous access to with the 4 knobs on the OP1, which it thankfully seems perfect for. The pocket operators are a good example of a similar use case/knob size/spacing, some of the most dynamic effects require you to sweep both knobs by different amounts at the same time.


They learned their lesson from the OP1/Z, the entire firmware blob is encrypted this time. TE is fond of using blackfin processors that you'd typically find in automotive ECUs (The OP1 is a 5xx series, and the OPZ a 7xx), which include a whole bunch of 'security' and 'authenticity' features like one time fuses, which effectively shuts down most forms of homebrew. The extent of what you could get away with was dependent on what assets changed and how much space was left to spoof the CRCs (very little).

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

New Zealand can eat me posted:

TE is fond of using blackfin processors that you'd typically find in automotive ECUs (The OP1 is a 5xx series, and the OPZ a 7xx), which include a whole bunch of 'security' and 'authenticity' features like one time fuses, which effectively shuts down most forms of homebrew. The extent of what you could get away with was dependent on what assets changed and how much space was left to spoof the CRCs (very little).

does this mean i can tune an OP1 for drifting?

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020
I keep knocking over my OB-4, thing needs to last me a lifetime. I even spilled barbecue sauce on it a few days ago. If the sauce went down in the 'tape' gears, it would be real sticky and gross. From now on I think I'll keep it parked on a desk, or at least up off the floor where I walk.

Anyway, does anyone use Tracker software for NES hardware? If so which is recommended? I've seen several from Woolyss. I got one of those Analogue mini nt things and this morning thinking about using the NES chip to make bits and pieces of sound for sampling into dt/ot.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


That reminds me, didn’t the NES really only have a few square waves, a triangle wave, and noise? That means it’s entirely possible to recreate old NES tunes with a few VCO+EG suites. No idea what the hell is going on with the VRC6, but Vital and Renoise should be up to the task.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Internally, yes. Cartridges could include their own sound chips too, but only Famicom systems could make use of it.

VCV has a couple NES chip emulators if you want to compare the sound to any remakes you try.

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqkOvHr0ytY
this is the best NES native tracker demo I've found.

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

some raw, unedited eurorack space farts featuring some video synthesizers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQpPc7CW7M

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020

Chainclaw posted:

some raw, unedited eurorack space farts featuring some video synthesizers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQpPc7CW7M

I think it's great, it's a lot more musical than what most eurorack people make. Melody makes it more interesting, and visually that rack is the bees knees and also appear expensive.
One thing someone should do is make visual effects software like the one you are using but it's backgrounds from the Earthbound battle scenes.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Chainclaw posted:

some raw, unedited eurorack space farts featuring some video synthesizers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQpPc7CW7M

I know nothing of what's available in the way of video stuff. You know anything about what is used for this show, or where I would begin to find it? You can just click around in there and see there's a lot of stuff going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhAEMrwmUZI

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006
p sure hana just has a lot of sisters

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


What, you’ve never heard of copy-paste before? :v:

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68t0m2143HM

This video kind of embodies the kind of thinking I always like to see.

;------------------------------------------------

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



petit choux posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68t0m2143HM

This video kind of embodies the kind of thinking I always like to see.

;------------------------------------------------



I think it was the buchla crowd that called their sequencers Arbitrary Function Generators which I always liked. a good example of how just naming something differently can recontextualize it’s function in a given system

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Mr. Sharps posted:

I think it was the buchla crowd that called their sequencers Arbitrary Function Generators which I always liked. a good example of how just naming something differently can recontextualize it’s function in a given system

Funny that it's sort of a misnomer too. Arbitrary function generators have apparently been a class of signal generator used in circuit design and repair for probably around as long as they've been digital, and technically a lot of synth hardware would fit in that class (sequencers not so much). And prior to that they were mostly called signal generators. I've been playing around with a lot of that stuff over the past week or two. And I'm bound to be doing more because I've just acquired some of the finest analogue filters you can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQlNR5D5FJE

I'm so loving that you can find used lab gear that works for music.

This guy is opening the box on one of the filters. Amazing work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzYqsLqt3M&t=500s

petit choux fucked around with this message at 20:34 on May 5, 2022

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

petit choux posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68t0m2143HM

This video kind of embodies the kind of thinking I always like to see.

;------------------------------------------------



Reminds me about using 0-ctrl as a sub-oscillator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0A21meC2m4&t=910s

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

You just explore and you find all these things like that. I was running the NTS-1 with the SQ-1 and had the arp turned on, and by turning the speed all the way up on the sequencer I got some pretty awesome sounds IIRC. I think I also crashed my Midisport IIRC.

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

petit choux posted:

You just explore and you find all these things like that. I was running the NTS-1 with the SQ-1 and had the arp turned on, and by turning the speed all the way up on the sequencer I got some pretty awesome sounds IIRC.

Yeah that's how you get simili-chords with a single oscillator, a trick used often in early consoles.

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgvlOxZysvs&t=208s

SpaceGoatFarts fucked around with this message at 20:45 on May 5, 2022

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

petit choux posted:

I know nothing of what's available in the way of video stuff. You know anything about what is used for this show, or where I would begin to find it? You can just click around in there and see there's a lot of stuff going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhAEMrwmUZI

That could be a lot of different solutions. The cloning you could probably do in OBS pretty easy. The backgrounds, have you looked into VS? It's a software solution and is sort of easy to use. You'll end up needing to use virtual audio routing and midi to get it to play nice with a streaming setup https://www.imaginando.pt/products/vs-visual-synthesizer

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

Reminds me about using 0-ctrl as a sub-oscillator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0A21meC2m4&t=910s

lot of this stuff (like the 0-Ctrl itself :v ) is fairly shamelessly ripped from the Serge world. Even if one never ever plans on picking up a banana cable in your life this section of the STS fan site http://www.serge-fans.com/wizardry.htm and all of the OG manuals are fantastic resources on like synth theory, and like a lot of those things show up in Eurorack as either knowing clones (DUSG -> Doepfer A-171-2, all those Random Source modules), or w/ a facelift (Maths)


petit choux posted:

Funny that it's sort of a misnomer too. Arbitrary function generators have apparently been a class of signal generator used in circuit design and repair for probably around as long as they've been digital, and technically a lot of synth hardware would fit in that class (sequencers not so much).

Sequencer is way-underselling that one, it's UI is set up sort of like one but it very much is a tool for defining a smooth or stepped 16 stage arbitrary function, which could be the output of a sequencer... or not.

Lotta the Buchla stuff, you see it more with the 100 series, is very close to that test equipment - the envelopes you can patch as quadrature oscillators are called function generators, and they definitely are that in the classic sense, with the caveat that they're analog and in the usable range for music. That's sort of generally what's going on with the 100 series and to some extent the 200 series, laboratory heritage is very much worn on the sleeve.

Sorta reminds me of PC architecture - instead of an arithmetic logic unit you have an oscillator or a function generator or something and yeah its not turing complete but it is continuous and not band limited and thats kind of a cool trick for a computer

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

JamesKPolk posted:

lot of this stuff (like the 0-Ctrl itself :v ) is fairly shamelessly ripped from the Serge world.

I think companies like Make Noise and Verbos aren't hiding their sources of inspiration being Buchla and Serge. Personally I had 0 knowledge about synths when I started (went from volcas to 0-coast to Black and Gold system), but after reading so many people mentionning and praising Serge stuff I understand why now. Stuff like maths and 0-ctrl would feel hermetic to me when I started, but once you are more familiar with the basics of synths theory you realize how limiting it was to see them as an envelope generator and a CV sequencer. That's really why I still love playing with modulars, I'm learning new stuff everyday and it seems there's enough for me to keep learning for years to come.

Maybe some day I'll have a Serge rack, but honestly I feel I still have a lot to learn in the meantime and I probably can do mostly the same with what I already own. Excepted maybe the resonant equalizer. That module is dope and someday I'll get one. But yeah, I love how Serge modules are really encouraging you to be creative with your patching, and that's the same thing that made me attracted to Make noise stuff (and Verbos too though I hate that their build quality is pretty hit or miss)


Thanks for the link BTW! More inspiration for me to read :)

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

SpaceGoatFarts posted:


Thanks for the link BTW! More inspiration for me to read :)

Any time! Was a big leap for me to start getting Euro patch tips from other formats lol

Verbos is a little different to me because didn't he get his start doing 4u clones? Bigger "oh poo poo" moment for me (and probably who I should have gone with over Make Noise) was realizing half the early Harvestman stuff was basically 200 series except w/ microcontrollers for everything

Every month I feel myself inching closer to building a set of Best of CGS panels, but yeah. Honestly the resonant eq has been my biggest Serge-related disappointment, even though it's extremely talked up? (I'm selling one now, actually). But just watched this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxI7IkCeaI

and I think I'm way under-utilizing it

Shartweek
Feb 15, 2003

D O E S N O T E X I S T

MSPain posted:

i just finished up a somewhat aggressive electronic music EP. this is the best track imo:

https://soundcloud.com/borden-jardine/n_never-1?in=borden-jardine/sets/never-ep

the lead sound is a vintage korg mono/poly through a rat pedal :rock:

there is an accompanying doom wad if you are into that sort of thing:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128975-never-doom2-pwadtechno-ep-release/

This is so drat good and aggressive and makes for some excellent driving music, I enjoy the slower tracks a lot! Thanks for sharing, it's helpful inspiration.

I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm trying to make some dub techno with my Digitakt and came up with this today, the lead is very jarring in retrospect but felt decent enough when making it. Been trying to pack a single bar with as many variations of sounds as possible per track before moving on to more steps in my sequences, clearly I have a lot to learn.

https://soundcloud.com/coolnezzz/digitakt-dub-techno-1

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

MSpain, that ep is great. Really nailed the sound of the mid/late 90s through a modern lens. I think if gessafelstein made the music for a doom.wad it would sound pretty drat similar. I liked the more spacious, straightforward vibes of 5 and 6, maybe that's just my age and energy level showing.

I'm finishing up an ambient/drone/environmental kind of release at the moment (well mainly got sick of working on it and have too much stuff towards another release sitting around). Any advice on mastering this kind of stuff? really all I've done is soft clip the obnoxious peaks and cut the in-audible sub bass. I really don't like the way it sounds loud though, should i still normalise it to normal levels? I guess because it lacks percussion to eat up the peaks it sounds louder than other stuff, should I just trust people to turn it down lol?

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Coolnezzz posted:

This is so drat good and aggressive and makes for some excellent driving music, I enjoy the slower tracks a lot! Thanks for sharing, it's helpful inspiration.

I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm trying to make some dub techno with my Digitakt and came up with this today, the lead is very jarring in retrospect but felt decent enough when making it. Been trying to pack a single bar with as many variations of sounds as possible per track before moving on to more steps in my sequences, clearly I have a lot to learn.

https://soundcloud.com/coolnezzz/digitakt-dub-techno-1

Yeah the wierd chromatic thing in the background could be cut imo, the best sounding bits are when it cuts out. Huge kick sound, i'd work on modulating the filters on your stab and the delay sounds some more for that real dubby sound!

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006

field balm posted:

MSpain, that ep is great. Really nailed the sound of the mid/late 90s through a modern lens. I think if gessafelstein made the music for a doom.wad it would sound pretty drat similar. I liked the more spacious, straightforward vibes of 5 and 6, maybe that's just my age and energy level showing.

I'm finishing up an ambient/drone/environmental kind of release at the moment (well mainly got sick of working on it and have too much stuff towards another release sitting around). Any advice on mastering this kind of stuff? really all I've done is soft clip the obnoxious peaks and cut the in-audible sub bass. I really don't like the way it sounds loud though, should i still normalise it to normal levels? I guess because it lacks percussion to eat up the peaks it sounds louder than other stuff, should I just trust people to turn it down lol?

Thanks for the kind words! what you describe is pretty much what I was going for, so that feels good.

For advice on mastering: it's hard to say. I was struggling to make everything sound as loud as possible, so my tricks might be counter-productive for you. A good general tip, of course, is to compare it to other tracks in your genre. Free DJ software like Mixxx is really helpful for this so you can really get in there and compare frequency ranges. Maybe post something?

Shartweek
Feb 15, 2003

D O E S N O T E X I S T

field balm posted:

Yeah the wierd chromatic thing in the background could be cut imo, the best sounding bits are when it cuts out. Huge kick sound, i'd work on modulating the filters on your stab and the delay sounds some more for that real dubby sound!

Thanks for your feedback and I completely agree on that "lead" sound, it's out of place and was my first attempt at live chromatic recoding. I think I'm picking up the Elektron workflow much easier than anything else I've used so far, it's a ton of fun and there is so much more to learn.

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006

i like this! i live in WA, too. this place is truly the florence of the doom soundtrack world


I like the weird chromatic part! but I tend to think atonal parts work well in techno

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Okay, so far I haven't felt as right about buying a piece of hardware as I do about the SQ-64 for a long time. There are an awful lot of things you can do with this baby. This loop function is knocking my socks off, I imagine there are already people out there that have put together whole methods based around the loop function on this and whatever they call it on other machines. You can do fricking numerology on this thing. It is a shoegazer's dream.

petit choux fucked around with this message at 07:25 on May 6, 2022

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
OP-1 users: just a reminder that the battery indicator needs to be recalibrated every once in awhile with a full discharge until death and a full recharge.

I thought my battery was going already so I decided to try this and it’s been playing at “super low battery” on loop for over 12 hours. The battery life on these things is insane.

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havelock
Jan 20, 2004

IGNORE ME
Soiled Meat

Rolo posted:

OP-1 users: just a reminder that the battery indicator needs to be recalibrated every once in awhile with a full discharge until death and a full recharge.

I thought my battery was going already so I decided to try this and it’s been playing at “super low battery” on loop for over 12 hours. The battery life on these things is insane.

Another op-1 thing. If I leave mine too long and the battery fully discharges, it won't turn on when you flip the switch and also will no longer charge. Reflashing the firmware fixes it for me.

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