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God, I now understand how all those dorks who got mad about He-Man felt when they started screaming "Bait and switch!" about that show. Those first two episodes of Picard S2 were sooooo good. It was an actual Star Trek adventure that did Star Trek things, and then *faaaaaart*. The main difference is, unlike Picard S2, Masters of the Universe: Revelation was loving awesome all the way through and only held out on its "Oh no, He-Man's dead!" twist for three episodes. Also it's just a TV show so I don't give that much of a poo poo, but still. What could have been...
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May 7, 2022 04:58
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The only non-Picard main character I really cared for was Rios (well, and Q if you can even call him a main character in all that). Don’t really care that I won’t be seeing the others again.
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May 7, 2022 05:00
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nine-gear crow posted:God, I now understand how all those dorks who got mad about He-Man felt when they started screaming "Bait and switch!" about that show. Those first two episodes of Picard S2 were sooooo good. It was an actual Star Trek adventure that did Star Trek things, and then *faaaaaart*. Revelations was so drat good. Another case of "the worst people are screaming about this, which just makes me like it that much more."
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May 7, 2022 05:00
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HD DAD posted:gently caress you Terry Matalas, just give me the TNG S8 you obviously wanted from the beginning. If Picard S3 were just plots from the TNG season 8 twitter, I'm interested again.
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May 7, 2022 05:03
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chglcu posted:The only non-Picard main character I really cared for was Rios (well, and Q if you can even call him a main character in all that). Don’t really care that I won’t be seeing the others again. I liked the prospect of Rios, Jurati, Raffi and Elnor, and that first episode of Season 2 showed a glimmer of their potential of what they could be if they were allowed to be fully functioning people in a Star Trek setting. They had the makings of a good bridge crew for a proper Star Trek spin off on the Stargazer, and then the subsequent 9 episodes of the season went about ruthlessly and methodically turning that potential to dust with a belt sander and then propelling it out the window on the wind of 20 fat guys' synchronized farts. E: Also I apparently misblamed Akiva Goldsman for cocking up the season when he actually wrote the only good parts of it along with Terry Matalas. The saggy middle was penned by a group of randos who all look like they were picked up from some MFA script writing class... and Kirsten Beyer. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:08 on May 7, 2022 |
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May 7, 2022 05:05
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I like Elnor mostly because I think the Qowat Milat are a cool idea. Very Star Wars-ey without being too much so
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May 7, 2022 05:08
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Charity Porno posted:I like Elnor mostly because I think the Qowat Milat are a cool idea. Very Star Wars-ey without being too much so The only thing I liked from him was when he said “I’m a rebel”. The whole murder-weirdo thing didn’t really work for me.
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May 7, 2022 05:10
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I'm glad they basically wrote Elnor out of this season, gave him nothing to do last season, and he's left for next season. Truly, he is an amazingly developed character.
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May 7, 2022 05:16
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chglcu posted:The only thing I liked from him was when he said “I’m a rebel”. The whole murder-weirdo thing didn’t really work for me. I bet you infinity dollars that if they'd took the sword away and just made him a space kung-fu weirdo who could beat people up in a cool looking way without killing them, people would have had less of a weird mental hill to climb in order to like him.
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May 7, 2022 05:17
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nine-gear crow posted:I bet you infinity dollars that if they'd took the sword away and just made him a space kung-fu weirdo who could beat people up in a cool looking way without killing them, people would have had less of a weird mental hill to climb in order to like him. That does seem more like something Captain Picard should have been willing to work with.
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May 7, 2022 05:20
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nine-gear crow posted:I bet you infinity dollars that if they'd took the sword away and just made him a space kung-fu weirdo who could beat people up in a cool looking way without killing them, people would have had less of a weird mental hill to climb in order to like him. The writers could have done that and they didn't even like him enough to try that and instead killed him, so maybe consider that you don't know better than them?
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May 7, 2022 05:20
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Killing fascists is good, actually.
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May 7, 2022 05:22
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Did they ever explain why the Gary Seven Romulan in 2022 looks just like Picard's housekeeper from the future?
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May 7, 2022 05:22
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Jose Oquendo posted:Did they ever explain why the Gary Seven Romulan in 2022 looks just like Picard's housekeeper from the future? No.
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May 7, 2022 05:23
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Maybe she was an ancestor. Trek loves having ancestors look exactly like descendants.
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May 7, 2022 05:27
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Unto every producer a faction of the Borg is born.
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May 7, 2022 05:29
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Its common knowledge that everyone has an ancestor that looks exactly like them. That's just how DNA works.
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May 7, 2022 05:31
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all these eugenic wars caused too much inbreeding all my kids look just like me and my sister
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May 7, 2022 05:31
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Unto every producer a faction of the Borg is born. I like to imagine that in both the Discovery and Picard writers rooms, there exists a single pen, and single pad of paper. There are 22 producers, and only one of them gets to hold the pen and write something on the page at a time. The limit on how long you can write for is how long you can physically hold onto the pen for until it is wrestled out of your hands by someone else. You will get a chance to write something again, when, and ONLY when, you can wrestle the pen away from whoever currently possesses it. The process continues until an entire season of television is somehow written. This is how Star Trek is made.
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May 7, 2022 05:33
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If "Gorn breeding sack fetish" wasn't a thing before, it probably is now. I'm too scared to research it myself. How is that security chief related to Khan?
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May 7, 2022 05:33
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Organic Lube User posted:If "Gorn breeding sack fetish" wasn't a thing before, it probably is now. I'm too scared to research it myself. We have to wait for the SNW season finale, when Pike pulls out a dusty old folder labeled “project khan” and then we find out next season.
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May 7, 2022 05:35
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Elnor was great when they let him be an enthusiastic and naive weirdo, but for 80% of his screentime across two seasons they insisted on either making him a ninja or a dead body. Honestly, the two things in Picard S2 I’m angriest about are teasing us with charismatic Captain Rios and awestruck Cadet Elnor and then giving us precisely five minutes of each before embarking on 8 episodes of LA backlot bullshit. It cannot be stressed enough how physically tired I am of seeing the greater Los Angeles area as a setting in film and tv.
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May 7, 2022 05:36
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The Only Limit Is Yourself
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Organic Lube User posted:If "Gorn breeding sack fetish" wasn't a thing before, it probably is now. I'm too scared to research it myself. She shares a last name, Noonien-Singh. So she's probably an Nth level granddaughter or niece. Probably to the point where her Augment abilities have basically been bred out of her by now thanks to all the normies her ancestors probably had to gently caress after Khan plunged his empire into the dirt through his hubris and then hosed off to space to get away from the consequences of his super dickery. I'm assuming there's going to be an episode this season dedicated to unpacking all of La'an's baggage. How well it does so is still up in the air. Also there's probably been Gorn porn for decades. Huge lizard dicks.
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May 7, 2022 05:38
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Organic Lube User posted:How is that security chief related to Khan? Registering my wild speculation: directly, probably his daughter. There was more than one Botany Bay type ship and hers was found (by Gorn, if that wasn't an invented story) and so she got out. Either just trying to get by, secretly A BAD GUY!!! OH NO!! SO INTERESTING, or joined Starfleet to look for the Botany Bay and find dad.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Killing fascists is good, actually. First off, he killed others as well. Second, it depends on if you think people deserve to die for things completely out of their control. The fact that one thing tweaked in the past snowballed into a fascist future instead of a utopian federation implies a level of determinism pretty much incompatible with free will. In that framework, my opinion is that fascists should be opposed, even to the point of killing them if necessary, but not just killed for the hell of it. But I don’t especially have a problem with him killing in the situations they were in the show. It’s the fact that such a character was part of Picard’s crew to begin with that bugs me.
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Grand Fromage posted:Registering my wild speculation: directly, probably his daughter. There was more than one Botany Bay type ship and hers was found (by Gorn, if that wasn't an invented story) and so she got out. Either just trying to get by, secretly A BAD GUY!!! OH NO!! SO INTERESTING, or joined Starfleet to look for the Botany Bay and find dad. I sincerely hope the show doesn't have the hubris to ever directly bring up Khan in any capacity other than a brief historical contextualizer (especially because it took Kirk and co. like half of Space Seed to realize 1) who Khan was, and 2) that he was loving evil). Best case scenario is them doing a rehash of Bashir's plotline from DS9 and her big secret of concern is just that she's an Augment and that's the part that she's worried about becoming public knowledge and it puts her at odds with the crew very briefly before we get that whole "We accept you for who you are unconditionally, because we're the nice, optimistic, inclusive Star Trek show" ending. And then we never speak of it again. But then again, we all know where Modern Trek loves to go with its sheer loving hubris.
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I'm almost 100% certain she's gonna be put in a situation where she threatens to chase some random antagonist around the moons of Nibia/Antares Maelstrom/Perdition's flames before she gives the person up and then wink directly at the camera. I hope not, but Goldsman might not be able to help himself.
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May 7, 2022 05:55
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Yeah that's my real name, Bdolf Hitler. I don't know why you're asking all these questions.
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May 7, 2022 05:57
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Her story about the Gorn killing her family is 100% bullshit.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Did they ever explain why the Gary Seven Romulan in 2022 looks just like Picard's housekeeper from the future? since they were doing a Q ex machina anyway they might as well have had him say "buddy all that was made up. i had to come up with it all on the fly. didn't you notice how jacked guinan was"
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Okay so Q wanted to teach Picard to forgive himself about his mother. So he gave Picard a tour of an alternate present, "the end of the road not taken"... in hopes that Picard would steal the Borg Queen, the Borg Queen would correctly identify the point of timeline divergence, and the crew would successfully time travel by their own means to correct that divergence. All so Picard could voluntarily leave the key in the wall, in the past. That is a hell of a lot of variables to hinge a plan on (one might call it a "very poorly-written" plan) but okay! And I still can't figure out the point of anything Q was doing in 2024. SNW actually felt like a show, so that was nice!
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I'd like to think a weakened Q was just shambling around LA in 2024 doing stuff like going to Pink's Hot Dogs, or seeing a horror retrospective at Cinerama, or getting shitfaced and going to the Griffith Observatory. A whole episode dedicated to that would've redeemed the entire season.
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feedmyleg posted:SNW good. Very good. yeah I actually liked it which is more than I have felt about any star trek since probably voyager
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May 7, 2022 06:37
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My loathing for the end of picard s2 is inversely proportional to my excitement of SNW, what the hell is going on at CBS it can't just be kurtzman
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The SNW pilot is easily the second best in Trek history, after Emissary. I could do without all the winking to canon, though.
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I really liked SNW but why the gently caress can’t they just make a new Trek that takes place 20 years or whatever after voyager. Why is that so loving hard?
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