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Masculine Thrust posted:It's club of Rome hooey cooked up to turn ostensible leftists into footsoldiers of reaction, like most of Western leftism after WW2.
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indigi posted:barring unforeseen leaps in our technological ability to mitigate environmental degradation, some level of degrowth will be necessary to afford everyone on Earth a similar societal level. like personally owned cars will have to go in any scenario you’d like to imagine, socialist or otherwise, even assuming a global transition off fossil fuels. but we absolutely don’t have to paternalistically halt developing nations’ growth or do thinkpiece handwringing about it, action on that scale would be a few decades down the line (unless global communism happens within the next 14-18 hours) I understand where you're coming from, but what if we had cool tram cars with big extendable rods sticking out the top that could latch onto the same electrical lines powered by nuclear reactors that electric busses and trams use?
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Dreylad posted:THX 1138  its on now
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mcmagic posted:They are never going to spend 150MM on someone's random property ever again that isn't a part of some big sequel or franchise.
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May 7, 2022 08:13
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finished it. 10/10 film glad i picked up on it. one more good flick tomorrow night and i'll be 3/3 on banger films this weekend feelin big slow films like that. somebody mentioned waterworld, i rewatched that a few months ago. i think it was hated upon like 100x more than it should have been. wasnt it all about budget overruns? who fucken cares
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May 7, 2022 08:17
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i think its kinda hard to grasp what made waterworld so funny to modern audiences bc we don't care about the opening monologues on late night shows anymore
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm pretty sure "Nooo, don't limit my ability to despoil the Earth like my ancestors before me" is the reactionary position. No it's wanting to live in Hobbiton instead of Star Trek. The capture of the left by the petit bourgeoisie, which is in a patronage relationship with the left-wing of capital via academics, the NGO complex, and otherwise ideologically penetrated by it on account of ideological production (eg media) being dominated by the petit bourgeoisie, means the degrowth (aka austerity) agenda has replaced socialist futurism and techno optimism. Implicit to this degrowth position is a rejection of dialectical materialism, as history is seen as frozen. We've traded Marx's vision of liberation by way of the development of the productive forces for a crypto reactionary vision of technology run amok, stealing our vril or whatever. BP invented the term "carbon footprint," for example. The reality is the big bourgeoisie, the dominant faction of globalized finance capital (including silicon valley and big oil), knows it's days are numbered and has totally checked out from any pretenses of investment into a middle class, as well as nation-state (hence the spread of national nihilism over the last couple decades also which is a related phenomenon). Decades of this mix of middle class neurosis, rooted in their precarity and potential proletarianization, and ruling class control of the left through them has produced ideas like localism, degrowth, and since the nazis lost ww2 they package their goals in leftist, progressive language instead of using angry masculine dudes in sick Hugo Boss uniforms, but the end goal all the same is the extermination of "useless eaters" and the rational demolition of existing capital to artificially create growth, but on capitals terms instead of ours. Personally I won't stand for it!
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if you like big historical movies that are way better than you thought they could be watch Mongol
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downfall (the hitler meme one) is also good but not epic. but really good
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May 7, 2022 08:58
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There's a Kazakh historical epic that's pretty good and free on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxYovFils-g
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Blood Boils posted:I think/hope there's a trend now for weird history, like green knight. I can't imagine it or the Northman made a lot of money tho. Even non epic scale period pieces are pretty expensive to make I bet I dunno that I'd call The Green Knight "weird history" since it's based on a pretty well-known poem/myth, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't slap. It's definitely something that I don't think there's been much of, which is a slow character study/suspense film set in the medieval era. Those genres almost always seem to skew closer to the present day.
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Grevling posted:There's a Kazakh historical epic that's pretty good and free on youtube. lmao @ literally crediting Nazarbayev in the first 10 seconds
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Stairmaster posted:Just watched the color of money what an amazing film even when I'm not sure what actually happened at the end because I know nothing about pool or hustling It's a ton of fun, it's also one of those movies that reminds you why Tom Cruise was the biggest movie star in the world E: https://youtu.be/nk2Sh9Xn5HU Pepe Silvia Browne has issued a correction as of 12:01 on May 7, 2022 |
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They should make more movies about cool guys who play pool.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:lmao @ literally crediting Nazarbayev in the first 10 seconds There's a longer one at the end too, an epilogue about the destiny of the Kazakh people (under Nursultan Nazarbaev's leadership.)
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm pretty sure "Nooo, don't limit my ability to despoil the Earth like my ancestors before me" is the reactionary position. that's what it's there for
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Antonymous posted:if you like big historical movies that are way better than you thought they could be The fact that the sequels have stalled out is some hosed up poo poo, the first movie is good
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mcmagic posted:They are never going to spend 150MM on someone's random property ever again that isn't a part of some big sequel or franchise. They just did on moonfall
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Masculine Thrust posted:I understand where you're coming from, but what if we had cool tram cars with big extendable rods sticking out the top that could latch onto the same electrical lines powered by nuclear reactors that electric busses and trams use? it isn’t solely the power requirements that make individual car ownership ecologically devastating, mass battery/tire/oil/specialized part production and disposal is wildly polluting. unless of course we develop a fully recyclable vehicle with frictionless internal parts non-chemical power storage and rocket braking along with a “green” synthetic replacement for rubber that can be mass produced, which is why I mentioned unforeseen technological breakthroughs indigi has issued a correction as of 15:51 on May 7, 2022 |
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Jonny 290 posted:somebody mentioned waterworld, i rewatched that a few months ago. i think it was hated upon like 100x more than it should have been. wasnt it all about budget overruns? who fucken cares Reminds me that I just watched the Ulysses cut of Waterworld the past week and in the 40 minutes of cut content they had a whole sub-plot very directly lecturing the audience about how we need population control to avoid a future like this. Imagine an alternate earth where Waterworld was a massive success and it's message saved the world from impending ecological disaster lol.
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TheMopeSquad posted:Reminds me that I just watched the Ulysses cut of Waterworld the past week and in the 40 minutes of cut content they had a whole sub-plot very directly lecturing the audience about how we need population control to avoid a future like this. Imagine an alternate earth where Waterworld was a massive success and it's message saved the world from impending ecological disaster lol. Population control wouldn’t have saved us from anything if we didn’t reduce our per-capita resource consumption.
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Population control is one of those solutions like straw restrictions that won't solve anything by itself but will piss off a whole lot of people and make them unsympathetic to the end goal so in conclusion I'm shocked we haven't done it already
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May 7, 2022 17:54
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the best population control is a basic welfare state with free access to medical care and sex ed but no one in power will ever admit it because they couldn't be self righteous anymore
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Jonny 290 posted:
people hated Waterworld because it was hyped to the extreme and then sucked it wasn't fun, it wasn't clever, it wasn't exciting, it wasn't well-acted, it was a turd
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waterworld is a prophecy
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Filthy Hans posted:people hated Waterworld because it was hyped to the extreme and then sucked like 2/3 of the way into the movie the hero grabs the little orphan girl by her hair and cuts it off, shortly after attempting to pimp out the refugee he kidnapped to another captain. it’s a terribly written movie but it’s charming for how earnest it is, like the scene where the hero yells at the little girl for drawing with crayons again, the hero that the audience is supposed to root for is doing these things. this is an overused trope but Hopper is actually the good guy of the movie
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May 7, 2022 18:15
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another 'bad' film where hopper is the good guy: space truckers. for some reason i love it
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ArmZ posted:the best population control is a basic welfare state with free access to medical care and sex ed but no one in power will ever admit it because they couldn't be self righteous anymore it's more like people on power actually do want a surplus labor force
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i say swears online posted:nice. the child officer owns He's such an endearing little imperialist :3
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Jonny 290 posted:another 'bad' film where hopper is the good guy: space truckers. for some reason i love it I saw that movie when it premiered on HBO's Thursday Night Prime series and only years later did I learn the title came from a Deep Purple track
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George Perez has passed away. https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1522997470107734016?t=vBfswzQMRWw8CseKqN5MJA&s=19
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wtf so young e: oh pancreatic cancer. that’ll get ya
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War and Pieces posted:it's more like people on power actually do want a surplus labor force same thing.
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lol at january sixth footage also being used but in some arbitrary unexplained way that isnt as tasteless as using euromaidan footage
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indigi posted:it isn’t solely the power requirements that make individual car ownership ecologically devastating, mass battery/tire/oil/specialized part production and disposal is wildly polluting. unless of course we develop a fully recyclable vehicle with frictionless internal parts non-chemical power storage and rocket braking along with a “green” synthetic replacement for rubber that can be mass produced, which is why I mentioned unforeseen technological breakthroughs And then you have all the social ills caused by atomizing your society, which is what individual car ownership does.
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list of topics that can derail the pop culture thread: the economy of boots purchases eating insects electric cars feels like i must be missing a few
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pitbulls are safe if you raise them right
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You can add to this the physical infrastructure, which cuts up potential habits for wildlife into chunks too small to support larger species, with knock-on effects for every other species. yeah I read a study that bisecting a forest with a two lane highway decreases biodiversity in each half by up to 40%
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