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Yeah it’s cool we have a version of Stormfront where people are busily calling rape victims in Bucha crisis actors but whaddya gonna do.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Yeah it’s cool we have a version of Stormfront where people are busily calling rape victims in Bucha crisis actors but whaddya gonna do.  cspam delenda est
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hey look engagement don't make itself there cowboy, how else we supposed to deploy sa 5.0 into the metaverse? pioneering micro transactions is one thing but we can't just sit on our laurels here
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sneakyfrog posted:how else we supposed to deploy sa 5.0 into the metaverse? My god, it’s full of dickbutt.
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Maybe cspam needs canned sunshine? If I remember right, FYAD got wiped from the forums for a bit like 15 years ago, for being so lovely at the time.
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Xakura posted:
unfortunately it's not going anywhere because it generates money to the site's owner
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Alchenar posted:It's quite funny in parts because they have a gunnery guy there making a show of dispensing spec knowledge wisdom who has somehow managed to both be wrong in every single prediction they've made and also completely misinterpret every event as it is happening and they haven't noticed the pattern. That guy's a real hoot but my favorite is the "obviously kyiv attack was a loving feint, Russia's clear objective was always the south and east" guy
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Still laughing at the “bread is baked twice daily, at a central location” moron 
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The fuckin carpet of destroyed tanks is what made it so convincing, genius
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poo poo, you're right. How was I such a rube!!!
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It's a ruse to slow down Ukraine's switch over to to western weapons by weighing it down with hundreds of obsolete soviet era armor vehicles. At same time Russia grows stronger as it no longer has to maintain those same rust buckets. It's a double win for Putin.
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Gwaihir posted:That guy's a real hoot but my favorite is the "obviously kyiv attack was a loving feint, Russia's clear objective was always the south and east" guy But yeah, it's an endless, smug circle-jerk of: 1. "loving liberals keep accusing us of supporting Putin. We just oppose American imperialism and want the violence to stop." 2. "loving Ukrainian soldiers are all Nazis and deserve to be slaughtered" 3. "loving Ukrainian civilians are also all Nazis and deserve to be slaughtered" 4. "loving liberals keep accusing us of supporting Putin. We just oppose American imperialism and want the violence to stop."
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I dont get how these dudes dont just get dropped doing their little "look at me im a badass" dances. I guess that assumes theyre actually doing anything other than shooting into empty trees while their buddy films it for ticktok.
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they just don't have cool mustache guy or random old ladies with portents of doom. Ukraines social media and pr have been crazily on point E: ghost of friggin Kyiv jeez. TehRedWheelbarrow fucked around with this message at 16:47 on May 8, 2022 |
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Sentinel posted:I dont get how these dudes dont just get dropped doing their little "look at me im a badass" dances.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Still laughing at the “bread is baked twice daily, at a central location” moron Well, given the amount of wheat they've been stealing recently...
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This thread does tend to cheerlead some though. Russia is definitely failing with its goals in the invasion, but Ukraine is by no means out of the woods. The offensive towards Kiev that was supposed to be a decapitating strike and anything in the Black Sea where they should have had total dominance have been total disasters for Russia. But Russia still has a relative advantage on the ground in the east where most of the fighting is currently happening. Russia is advancing way slower than they need to, but they are advancing on some fronts. Because the Ukrainians have more drones and with social media the way it is, we see a lot more videos of Russian poo poo being blown up but Ukraine has taken very significant losses of people and equipment. Ukraine's relative position is getting stronger as more foreign weapons come in, but their offensive capability has been pretty limited and we've mostly seen them pushing Russia out of occupied territory in a limited way outside of the Kiev area. As much as it would be great to see Russian forces smashed in Ukraine, right now it looks like the best case scenario in the short term is that Ukraine sets up a meat grinder to wear out Russia until it can eventually push back. It's still very possible that Ukraine ends up agreeing to a negotiated settlement that sees it losing territory in the east, and retaking Crimea is still something of a pipe dream.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:This thread does tend to cheerlead some though. Russia is definitely failing with its goals in the invasion, but Ukraine is by no means out of the woods. The offensive towards Kiev that was supposed to be a decapitating strike and anything in the Black Sea where they should have had total dominance have been total disasters for Russia. But Russia still has a relative advantage on the ground in the east where most of the fighting is currently happening. Russia is advancing way slower than they need to, but they are advancing on some fronts. Because the Ukrainians have more drones and with social media the way it is, we see a lot more videos of Russian poo poo being blown up but Ukraine has taken very significant losses of people and equipment. Ukraine's relative position is getting stronger as more foreign weapons come in, but their offensive capability has been pretty limited and we've mostly seen them pushing Russia out of occupied territory in a limited way outside of the Kiev area. The current counteroffensive north/east of Kharkhiv has the potential to put Belogrod within artillery range, which would be a pretty strategic development in terms of allowing them to target a major Russian logistics hub. Anyway, I don't think most people here here are cheerleading Ukraine so much as we're in awe at how terrible the Russian military is. I mean, 100% of the conventional warfare doctrine that every person serving in a NATO military learned was centered entirely around a war with the Russians, so it's astounding to see them not following basic principles of maneuver warfare.
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psydude posted:The current counteroffensive north/east of Kharkhiv has the potential to put Belogrod within artillery range, which would be a pretty strategic development in terms of allowing them to target a major Russian logistics hub. My wife’s family is Ukrainian Jew so I’m cheering the hell out of the invader getting their poo poo pushed in. My wife’s grandfather is 100 years old was just barely born here when his parents fled right after ww1. All traces of his family’s village and existence has been scrubbed from history. They need peace badly but being a crossroads of Europe was never going to let that happen.
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I spent my childhood growing up in a Ukrainian community and I’ll cheerlead the gently caress out of them exploding Russian invaders.
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Why shouldn't someone cheer on Ukraine in their war against the genocidal freaks of the Russian army? Why should anyone have any sympathy for an army that has raped, pillaged and murdered in the areas they occupy? Russia has already lost this war, it's a matter of when Putin acknowledges it.
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If I didn't hold it against the men who tried to kill me- since I was making an unprovoked invasion of an innocent, independent nation- I'm gonna do a little cheering for the Ukrainians.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:This thread does tend to cheerlead some though. Russia is definitely failing with its goals in the invasion, but Ukraine is by no means out of the woods. The offensive towards Kiev that was supposed to be a decapitating strike and anything in the Black Sea where they should have had total dominance have been total disasters for Russia. But Russia still has a relative advantage on the ground in the east where most of the fighting is currently happening. Russia is advancing way slower than they need to, but they are advancing on some fronts. Because the Ukrainians have more drones and with social media the way it is, we see a lot more videos of Russian poo poo being blown up but Ukraine has taken very significant losses of people and equipment. Ukraine's relative position is getting stronger as more foreign weapons come in, but their offensive capability has been pretty limited and we've mostly seen them pushing Russia out of occupied territory in a limited way outside of the Kiev area. We're cheering because pretty much everyone expected Ukraine to go down hard. They're putting on an absolutely amazing fight and showing unbelievable resilience. If that doesn't deserve a few cheers then I don't know what does.
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Cheerleading is bad when it prevents you from looking at the situation as a whole. We can all hope that Ukraine is able to push Russia out of its territory, but this is by no means a foregone conclusion. Russia is falling way short of its goals but they are still moving forward in a limited way in some places. I just don't see an obvious path where the Russian army collapses and Ukraine is able to regain all of its prewar territory unless there is a significant change in the strategic situation. Best case scenario is that weapon imports make a difference sooner rather than later but getting all of that operational takes time and Ukraine is suffering losses in the meantime. Russian equipment blowing up to a techno soundtrack is fun and all, it's just an incomplete look at the conflict. Would it be great to see Ukraine win here? Yes. Is Russia losing relative to its prewar goals? Yes. Is an outright Ukrainian victory assured at this point? No.
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This is like when one of NASA’s first Mars rovers was supposed to last 9 months before dying, but ended up lasting 3 or 4 years instead. I cheered the hell out of that too. They predicted dust and sand would cover the solar panels and progressively ruin its power management until at 9 months the batteries would no longer charge. But instead, every 6 or so months little tornadoes would hit the rover and clean its solar panels off.
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Blind Rasputin posted:This is like when one of NASA’s first Mars rovers was supposed to last 9 months before dying, but ended up lasting 3 or 4 years instead. I cheered the hell out of that too. They predicted dust and sand would cover the solar panels and progressively ruin its power management until at 9 months the batteries would no longer charge. But instead, every 6 or so months little tornadoes would hit the rover and clean its solar panels off. I cried when the one rover got stuck and died. Little dude was hardcore, and a achievement of science.
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Russia is advancing slowly in the east because that’s what they are currently capable of. Any intimation that they are just pulling their punches is an absurdity. Russia started this war with no less a goal than regime change and subjugation of the entire country. They have failed that and are just clinging on hoping to somehow save face from a total military and political disaster. This is the best they have. Ukraine is getting stronger with time, you can’t call the Kharkiv offensive anything else, and there is no sign that Russia is capable of reconstituting their forces at all. So, any projection that Russia is just biding time until their victory is just nonsense. There is no new juggernaut coming. It’s also apparent that any negotiated settlement is just a temporary pause before hostilities resume in a year or two so there is no real reason that Ukraine shouldn’t continue to prosecute the war while they have an advantage as long as they can.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Cheerleading is bad when it prevents you from looking at the situation as a whole. We can all hope that Ukraine is able to push Russia out of its territory, but this is by no means a foregone conclusion. Russia is falling way short of its goals but they are still moving forward in a limited way in some places. I just don't see an obvious path where the Russian army collapses and Ukraine is able to regain all of its prewar territory unless there is a significant change in the strategic situation. Best case scenario is that weapon imports make a difference sooner rather than later but getting all of that operational takes time and Ukraine is suffering losses in the meantime. What does "looking at the situation as a whole" even mean? Just sounds like an excuse for some kind of morally detached doomer realism to me. Do you really think a single person here believes that the Ukrainians haven't suffered any losses? You seem to be downplaying the catastrophic equipment and personnel losses of the Russian's while overemphasizing those of the Ukrainians who receive more and more equipment and resources from NATO by the day. I'll stick with the assessments by the US/UK because outside of being on the ground ourselves we're not likely to get much better information than that.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Cheerleading is bad when it prevents you from looking at the situation as a whole. We can all hope that Ukraine is able to push Russia out of its territory, but this is by no means a foregone conclusion. Russia is falling way short of its goals but they are still moving forward in a limited way in some places. I just don't see an obvious path where the Russian army collapses and Ukraine is able to regain all of its prewar territory unless there is a significant change in the strategic situation. Best case scenario is that weapon imports make a difference sooner rather than later but getting all of that operational takes time and Ukraine is suffering losses in the meantime. I’m not in charge of the disposition of their forces nor am I professionally responsible for providing an objective analysis I’ll cheerlead the Ukrainians to push Russia’s poo poo in until they leave
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Defender advantage is a thing. Russia will continue to be over extended just miles into Ukrainian boarders. They do not have the domestic political ability to muster and equip the 5M+ strong infantry divisions that they would need to conquer Ukraine. They barely started this war with enough conventional military power to take and hold the eastern portion of the country with its natural gas reserves and instead lost their best forces trying for Kiev.
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M_Gargantua posted:Defender advantage is a thing. Russia will continue to be over extended just miles into Ukrainian boarders. They do not have the domestic political ability to muster and equip the 5M+ strong infantry divisions that they would need to conquer Ukraine. They barely started this war with enough conventional military power to take and hold the eastern portion of the country with its natural gas reserves and instead lost their best forces trying for Kiev.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Furthermore, Russia has made it perfectly clear that any civilian areas they take will be destroyed, civilians included. That's going to motivate guerrillas. Welcome to asymmetric warfare!
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If I were a policy maker, I would have to take a detached perspective and focus on making decisions that promote my strategic goals, to include making plans for the possibility that supporting Ukraine could suddenly be against my national interest. I am not a policy maker. Any success for Russia is unacceptable. They must be defeated. Real long term success for Russia can only be in the form of regime change and substantial political and social reform.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1523364027929272320?s=21&t=gHmy_YOrBpj0ubvagSPl2w We ain't found poo poo!
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