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Gorson posted:Nice! The CB350/4 has become so rare as to be practically nonexistent. I don't even see 350/2's for sale anymore....cafe craze ate them all up. That is a sweet motor married to a sweet chassis and a good degree of no-bullshit design by Honda standards, you only need delete the linked brakes to get a brilliant bike.
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Immerse yourself in this extreme dad energy -disassembled goldwing -glass of wine -printed manual held together with 90 degree aluminum angles and c-clamps 
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May 6, 2022 18:27
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-Tire worn to the quick, because there's nothing fun about cracking open your wallet
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May 6, 2022 18:57
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This guy gets it To be fair, its torn apart to get the rear wheel off and replace the tire
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May 6, 2022 19:19
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Immerse yourself in this extreme dad energy The manual being both more effort and worse than just using a pdf is extremely dad yeah It's like the shortcut that takes twice as long cause it makes dad feel like he has hidden street knowledge
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May 6, 2022 22:34
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Pdfs have their upsides, to be sure. If they're fully ocr'ed and searchable and have a table of contents that works on your device's pdf reader app, they're pretty decent to use. If they're not, imagine trying to scroll through a 3000 page Mazda manual on your phone trying to visually spot the section about suspension, hidden between the 2000 page section on troubleshooting the diagnostic codes and the other 1000 pg section on troubleshooting the diagnostic codes, and then go hammer a nail through your foot because that's honestly more fun Books are always skimmable and you don't have to keep unlocking it when you look away for ten minutes and if you get the page filthy it's not like you use the book in every other aspect of your life too On the downside, it's a lot tougher to warez a book
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May 6, 2022 22:53
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KTM's nice and gives you the PDF with searchable pages and working links when you buy the book (cause they know you'll need it  )
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May 6, 2022 23:12
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Is a real service manual worth $40? Somebody on the 919 forum has a couple for sale. I already have the PDF
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May 6, 2022 23:14
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I vastly prefer printed OEM service manuals. Last time I bought one it was over $50 but well worth it
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May 6, 2022 23:17
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TotalLossBrain posted:I vastly prefer printed OEM service manuals. The only kind of manual that's better than google, also the only kind of manual worth spending actual currency on.
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May 6, 2022 23:47
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I keep printed and pdfs around. Printed is handy to have on the bench because its battery never dies and it doesn't care if your fingers are filthy within reason. Touchscreens and keyboards tend to mind. a pdf on your phone is splendid for traveling with when things go wrong. If you don't own American or European you can ignore this advice.
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Phy posted:Pdfs have their upsides, to be sure. If they're fully ocr'ed and searchable and have a table of contents that works on your device's pdf reader app, they're pretty decent to use. Yeah it’s all of this. Also the goldwing manual was scanned long enough ago that it probably wouldn’t OCR reliably anyway. I have a rugged windows 10 tablet I use for google searches and YouTube tutorials in the garage, but for manuals I like paper
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May 7, 2022 02:44
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Near as I can tell the 2020 Triumph T120's FSM is only available in digital format, through an $8/month subscription, in a bespoke web presentation format that doesn't let you print pages to take outside, because intellectual property.
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May 7, 2022 04:13
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Printscreen and a lot of patience an option? Probably someone with a bit of programming experience can even automate that.
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Remy Marathe posted:Near as I can tell the 2020 Triumph T120's FSM is only available in digital format, through an $8/month subscription, in a bespoke web presentation format that doesn't let you print pages to take outside, because intellectual property. What. Someone should rip that to PDF on principle alone.
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May 7, 2022 15:59
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Tesla doesn't publish or provide service manuals for their vehicles -- except in Massachusetts, where there is a state right-to-repair law that requires that automotive manuals be made available to anyone who asks. The company is still allowed to charge for them, though. So in Massachusetts, if you own a Tesla, you can sign up for a system where they will provide you with individual sections of the manual that you request in an online viewer...and they charge you to look at them on an hourly basis. 
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Sagebrush posted:Tesla doesn't publish or provide service manuals for their vehicles -- except in Massachusetts, where there is a state right-to-repair law that requires that automotive manuals be made available to anyone who asks. The company is still allowed to charge for them, though. Jim Silly-Balls posted:What.
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A screengrab process of everything in the Triumph's manual looks way too tedious for my blood, and I have painstakingly digitized and applied metadata for every single tape cassette, vinyl album and photo I owned. Stealing it properly's over this computer janitor's head, so my current plan is to turn the subscription on and off as I need it, and the months where I subscribe I will screengrab and write tables for everything I end up referencing to my Gsheet for the T120. vvv just a cursory search on TriumphRat.com without luck; I haven't identified the cranky old fountain of wisdom for Triumphs yet. Remy Marathe fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 7, 2022 |
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I assume you’ve checked the owners’ forums? I’ve had good luck for all my bikes that way. Rarely the full FSM, but I’ve always found spec sheets and model-specific fiddly jobs. Someone even made a DR650 app with a bunch of that stuff, it’s great to have on a tablet. I can see newer Triumphs being harder to find that way. Your forum’s resident old guy is always a good place to start.
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May 7, 2022 19:08
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Just laughing at the idea of an app to understand a motorcycle considerably simpler than an app
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May 7, 2022 19:14
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Slavvy posted:Just laughing at the idea of an app to understand a motorcycle considerably simpler than an app Yeaaahhh but I can’t memorize that many torque values and valve clearances and also the average person is mechanically a Neanderthal.
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May 7, 2022 20:50
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Oh boy here comes Slavvy to tell you that torque figures are all bullshit for weenies and you can totally just do it all by feel, and yeah I do have 20 years of experience as a professional mechanic but I don't see how that's relevant ilu man
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May 7, 2022 21:45
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You just don't need them for oil changes and stuff!!!
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Slavvy posted:You just don't need them for oil changes and stuff!!! yeah seventeen ugga-duggas il dooo er' 
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I guess what gets me is the person who made the app in the first place. You have a dr650, you also know how to make an app. Surely, surely if you're that clever it's easier to just learn the DR's foibles by heart than coding an entire app. Or am I severely overestimating apps?
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Well they presumably have coded so much that they think it's really easy, and would flip you poo poo for overthinking it.
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Yeah I think it was just one of the enthusiasts with skills and time on their hands. A rare example of altruism.
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Sagebrush posted:Oh boy here comes Slavvy to tell you that torque figures are all bullshit for weenies and you can totally just do it all by feel, and yeah I do have 20 years of experience as a professional mechanic but I don't see how that's relevant The last track day I went to I didn't bring my tools because I was told there would be plenty! There weren't, and I had to adjust my chain. I tightened the rear axle by feel, and nothing went wrong.  Yesterday, I wanted to recheck my chain because after I cleaned it I noticed the rear seemed slightly out of alignment (disc rubbing). Before I loosened the axle, I thought I'd just check it with my torque wrench. I didn't count, but at least 360˚ of rotation before it clicked  Slavvy posted:I guess what gets me is the person who made the app in the first place. You have a dr650, you also know how to make an app. Surely, surely if you're that clever it's easier to just learn the DR's foibles by heart than coding an entire app. Or am I severely overestimating apps? How easy it is to program something really depends on the breadth and maturity of the environment. I don't know about nowadays, but ~15 years ago on macOS you could "develop" a web browser with just a few lines of code. Obviously it was a poo poo browser, but still. I don't know what that DR650 app is, but it's probably fairly trivial to make. I'll caveat that all by saying I am not a software developer.
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Alls I know is it’s nice to have that app when I set my chain slack.
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One of you dads should buy this oldwing: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/529782121926348/
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Steakandchips posted:One of you dads should buy this oldwing: God I can feel the magnetic pull of it from here
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My Oldwing brings all the dads to the yard And they're like, it's cleaner than yours
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I love that "preserve nature" is the first bullet point.
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Slavvy posted:Cycle Asylum › DADBIKE - God I can feel the magnetic pull of it from here
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I would fly n ride for that bike if it wasn’t on a different continent
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It is in lovely condition isn't it.
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GL1200 has a six digit odo so it's probably correct. Fun fact about the GL1000 and 1100: only a 5 digit odo. Does the bike have 20k miles, 120k miles, 220k miles? Who knows.
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Gorson posted:GL1200 has a six digit odo so it's probably correct. The alternative is 1,024,000 miles on the odo....
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Steakandchips posted:The alternative is 1,024,000 miles on the odo.... 
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