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I had the most fun as a raid officer in WoW browsing parses specifically so I could offer advice and coaching to anyone low, or just gift them enchantments they were missing.  Seeing people improve made my week the next lockout. I also like when I see people new to a type of MMO gameplay and can give them the basics on tanking or something.Pushed to 4.2 and lmao this game, surprise here's another super cool optional set of raid fights. 
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I hope no one runs a parse on my Bard who I'm literally just getting to 90 so I can get my retainer to 90. The amount of not remembering to reup my poisons and not doing a song until like 30 seconds of no song is quite a lot Seriously how do people play this class, Red Mage FTW
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May 9, 2022 20:47
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I just push the lit up buttons and hope for the best
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May 9, 2022 20:49
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Oneiros posted:fflogs could and probably should default to hiding names/profiles for unlinked accounts tho Yeah, I don't think there's any harm in making this the default. I like seeing how competitive I can be on normal runs on FFLogs, but it's a matter of personal efficiency for me and not comparative shaming.
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Macaluso posted:I hope no one runs a parse on my Bard who I'm literally just getting to 90 so I can get my retainer to 90. The amount of not remembering to reup my poisons and not doing a song until like 30 seconds of no song is quite a lot After years of playing it I have a very consistent internal timer so it's not that I have to watch a bunch of cooldowns, it's that I know when there's about 10 seconds left. And outside of those timers there's enough flex in the procs that I find it relaxing. Sidewinder or other cooldowns might slip, but aside from the actual songs/dots that doesn't affect anything down the line in the same way a tight class like Dragoon does. That fits my particular anxieties very well, I can worry about tightening those up and doing mechanics while the main timers just tick away in a separate part of my head. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 20:57 on May 9, 2022 |
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May 9, 2022 20:54
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I have a decent internal clock on most of my highly played jobs, but I also keep my hotbars at just below eyelevel for a quick glance. I compare it a lot to driving a car: you get a good intuitive sense of how fast or slow you're going, but you also practice being able to flit your eyes down to the dashboard quickly to make sure your intuition's right.
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May 9, 2022 20:56
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when I played scholar in shadowbringers I got a pretty good internal timer for how my rotation worked out by how many dots it took to reup aetherflow, and how many aetherflows it took to reapply chain stratagem. bard feels even more straightforward now once you get a handle on it, since your songs and dots have the same duration, so it only really breaks my brain when the boss goes untargetable.
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May 9, 2022 21:06
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i parse purely for my own personal number go up improvement, but i admit: i once shared a parse of a dragoon in a normie raid that had 25% of their total damage from piercing talon. that still gives me a little chuckle when i think about it.
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Hogama posted:Oh dang, looks like Blufever got destroyed. That's not surprising. The extreme specificity of what they got right (Tsukiyomi, the order of the last set of Omega bosses, a nameless gunblade-using tank, Dancer, Blue Mage) and what they got wrong (Omega M/F's names, Dancer being a healer, Blue Mage being a full job ) meant Blu was either someone who left the team early in the Stormblood patch cycle or was in contact with someone who was. It probably didn't take a lot to track them down from there. Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 22:06 on May 9, 2022 |
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May 9, 2022 21:58
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I'm a very middle of the road player but I knew I was doing something right when I left Aglaia as a Dancer with 5 commendations one time. According to FFLogs my best performances in there hover around the 55~60 range which I'm more than fine with because it tells me I know how to play my job. That and my gear is poo poo (including having still been using a Moonward weapon up until a few days ago) so parsing that well in spite of the lovely gear also tells me I know my poo poo.
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May 9, 2022 22:00
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i'm gonna be honest, if you have hidden or no logs im just assuming youre bad anyways. theres no need to bring normal content parses into it. similarly if you have hidden logs and a weapon or title i figure you bought your clear
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cheetah7071 posted:I know this isn't the point of the post but generally reaper has few enough positionals that you should be able to use true north just about every time you would miss one That's one of the things that's weird to me about FFLogs versus Warcraftlogs. On the latter your percentile is within your item level bracket (was 3-ilevel brackets when I last played and gave a poo poo about parsing back in Legion) and date-based. I had several orange/gold parses for my item level bracket that if I took the cap off and compared against every Warlock on earth were somewhere closer to 60th percentile overall. I guess it's because the information is less easily accessible? But it seems like a missed opportunity.
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Kyrosiris posted:I guess it's because the information is less easily accessible? But it seems like a missed opportunity. ACT does not gather any information about gear, and that's where all the logs come from. Linking to the lodestone is worthless because it doesn't show what gear you had on at any given time.
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May 9, 2022 22:15
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Sakurazuka posted:I just push the lit up buttons and hope for the best That is also how I play dancer
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Basically the current situation, parsing frowned on by the Devs but not cracked down on in any real way outside of people being jerks, is absolutely fine and it should mostly stay that way. Making logs and parsers more official would be bad but so would starting to ban people for them. The bit about discouraging add-ons by improving the UI in other ways is good though, the UI needs a big overhaul.
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Kyrosiris posted:That's one of the things that's weird to me about FFLogs versus Warcraftlogs. On the latter your percentile is within your item level bracket (was 3-ilevel brackets when I last played and gave a poo poo about parsing back in Legion) and date-based. I had several orange/gold parses for my item level bracket that if I took the cap off and compared against every Warlock on earth were somewhere closer to 60th percentile overall. It’s just not consistently available enough in a way that makes the statistic useful. The lodestone updates in batches and is only going to be fully accurate after you log out, and who knows what job you’ll log off on. Any other way to get an accurate idea of what gear you had on at the time of the log involves methods that won’t get enough people logged properly to make it useful either. IMO percentiles just aren’t a useful benchmark anyway for the vast majority of people and should stay being seen as a place for competing, while every other feature of fflogs is waaaay more useful for normal use.
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RME posted:i'm gonna be honest, if you have hidden or no logs im just assuming youre bad anyways. theres no need to bring normal content parses into it. don't have this opinion on the CGB discord, you might get accused of being weird
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i'll say it again, they're not going to add dps parsers or meters into the game UI
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RME posted:i'm gonna be honest, if you have hidden or no logs im just assuming youre bad anyways. theres no need to bring normal content parses into it. If they have hidden logs and weapon/titles I'm more inclined to assume they're with a static that either uses a bannable third party tool If they have hidden logs and no EX/savage title/weapons I'd be more inclined to assume they're just a normal person who doesn't want people poking around in their stuff having no logs is no evidence of anything besides nobody parsing them
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Failboattootoot posted:Literally nobody has said this. Literally multiple people talking about finding The Bad in the last few pages. This poo poo always descends into horror stories about Ice Mages and Honest Healers. Edit: Like literally just above me is "if you hide your parses you are obviously bad" stuff.
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May 9, 2022 22:32
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Finding the bad so you know why you keep hitting enrage, or know how to rearrange the group is not shaming the bad.
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ImpAtom posted:Literally multiple people talking about finding The Bad in the last few pages. This poo poo always descends into horror stories about Ice Mages and Honest Healers. literally stop making poo poo up
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May 9, 2022 22:33
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Frida Call Me posted:don't have this opinion on the CGB discord, you might get accused of being weird is this a threat
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May 9, 2022 22:34
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:literally stop making poo poo up RME posted:i'm gonna be honest, if you have hidden or no logs im just assuming youre bad anyways. theres no need to bring normal content parses into it. It is *on this actual page*
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I think it's kinda cool that there's two vastly different games being played in this thread lol
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Someone please start posting plates before I wake up to 200+ posts about parsers
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RME posted:is this a threat nah it's the majority opinion over there that looking at other people's parses for any reason under any circumstances makes you weird.
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I can't really blame the thread on this one. It was yoshida who queued up the entire community's bad posting this time, for some reason
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Someone please start posting plates before I wake up to 200+ posts about parsers Hell bring up Asmongold. That gets the thread told to calm down whenever he comes up after a few posts but we can go at each other's throats for pages on parses
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one time we had a sub healer who told our static's healer to not use any heals because they were going for the fflogs 100 in hps
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ImpAtom posted:It is *on this actual page* True your post did remind me of this but I think it’s a pretty fair assessment
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I’m giving YoshiP a 12 hour probation.
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everyone who uses a parser is wrong unless they use it for the exact same reason I do: to make fun of your savage raiding friends on voice when you outdamage them in a random Mhach alliance roulette at 2am.
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There's nothing wrong with trying to filter out bad players if you're doing content with meaningful DPS checks. Blame the designers for creating content which requires the group to output a minimum amount of damage to complete. If I'm recruiting for a savage or ultimate static (which I have, many times in the past 10 years of raiding) I want proof that a player actually knows their rotation and has the bare minimum of gear. If they have nothing but single digit parses, I'm not recruiting them. That's my right as a static leader. Am I going to harass them or be a shithead over it? Of course not; I'll say "sorry, we're looking for other candidates", be on my way, and forget about them in five minutes. Do I upload logs from other content, including other players, to improve my own performance? Yes. Do I remember, out of those thousands of logs, the names of even one player? Of course not. Why on earth would I care how much DPS someone does in EXDR when you don't even need a healer to complete it? Or an alliance raid, where you can come back from a full alliance wipe with a triple healer LB3 and still win? Who cares? This narrative that it's impossible to parse without being toxic, that DPS logging inevitably leads to shaming bad players (lol), and that there are roving gangs of parse demons prowling FFlogs to find YOUR lovely logs specifically, is completely loving delusional. Nobody cares about you, just like real life. Everyone is far too consumed with themselves to worry about what you're doing. Nobody is going to hunt you down for dying in Smileton, I promise.
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I will. If you die in Smileton watch your back.
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what are you gonna do. kill them again. they're already dead. they died in smileton
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i got shooters waiting at the exit of every dungeon and at the tome vendor so if you zone out of stigmascape and you got hit by a mechanic youre dead meat ^(incredibly real threat and not a joke, im a toxic parser bro!!!!!)
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I'm a funhaver and not a tryhard. If i have more fun pressing Shifu over and over that doesn't make you better than me just because your parse says it's not as good.
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Huh, I have my lovely DPS from my first Aglaia in FFLogs. I'm mildly interested from a "I wonder what this can tell me?" stance because I like self-improvement and mastering gameplay and poo poo. But if someone comes at me for a gray parse I'm going to tell them to step on LEGOs and then ignore them. Not sure why this requires debate. If someone at the party is a shitheel, you kick them out. If no one wants to kick them out or goes "actually being a shitheel is good" you go to a different party.
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