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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Horace posted:

These "Video Stabilisers" were sold in the back of magazines. Obviously only intended to stabilise and restore your picture quality, nothing else.



I kinda love how the reflection on that label looks like 90s graphical dithering in a way.

Still, I have a need for a 'stabilizer' circuit.

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Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I've got some AV hardware in a box in my shed somewhere that I think is Marantz? It lets you boost video signals but I've no idea if it defeats Macrovision. I bought it 2nd hand in the early 90s.
I'll dig it out and get a photo some time, in case it's interesting.

e: A search of the shed revealed nothing, unfortunately. I did however find an 8-inch floppy disk, a linesmen's test handset and a Telecom Touchfone. I've no idea where that video thing went as I can't imagine anyone wanting to borrow it off me and not returning it. It must be here somewhere!

Gromit has a new favorite as of 01:26 on May 8, 2022

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Gromit posted:

I've got some AV hardware in a box in my shed somewhere that I think is Marantz? It lets you boost video signals but I've no idea if it defeats Macrovision. I bought it 2nd hand in the early 90s.
I'll dig it out and get a photo some time, in case it's interesting.

e: A search of the shed revealed nothing, unfortunately. I did however find an 8-inch floppy disk, a linesmen's test handset and a Telecom Touchfone. I've no idea where that video thing went as I can't imagine anyone wanting to borrow it off me and not returning it. It must be here somewhere!

Cool! take photos!

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I have tons of old stuff in my shed. Amiga 500, A2000, C64, tons of 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Gromit posted:

I have tons of old stuff in my shed. Amiga 500, A2000, C64, tons of 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies.



Gotta love old Ruggabutts. I won't ask how or why you have it lol, especially with that connector.

RoastBeef
Jul 11, 2008


Here's a macrovision suppression circuit from 1995 and here's one from 2006. They don't look too complicated.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Gromit posted:

I have tons of old stuff in my shed. Amiga 500, A2000, C64, tons of 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies.

Noice, might be worth moving the computer stuff inside the house, being in the shed won't be doing them any good.

Make sure the RTC battery has been removed from the A2000

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

You Am I posted:

Noice, might be worth moving the computer stuff inside the house, being in the shed won't be doing them any good.

Make sure the RTC battery has been removed from the A2000

The computers are in plastic tubs so nothing gets into them. But the A2000 has been down there for nearly 20 years and I just don't want to check the battery. Right now it's in a quantum state of maybe being ok, but I know if I look at it, it will be a horror show.

Got some C64 games:



Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Gromit posted:

Leather Goddesses of Phobos

I had to see what this sexy game looked like.



"Something, possibly this very sentence" :lol:

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Gromit posted:

I have tons of old stuff in my shed. Amiga 500, A2000, C64, tons of 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies.



I'm the abandoned bootleg gunpla.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Gromit posted:

I have tons of old stuff in my shed. Amiga 500, A2000, C64, tons of 3.5 and 5.25 inch floppies.



got any pics of that gundam?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Imagined posted:

I had to see what this sexy game looked like.



"Something, possibly this very sentence" :lol:

Infocom had great writers.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Humphreys posted:

Gotta love old Ruggabutts. I won't ask how or why you have it lol, especially with that connector.

phreak in the morning / phreak in the evening /
just like me

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

LifeSunDeath posted:

got any pics of that gundam?

I've had that box with the kit still in it for decades, and no idea where it came from. I'm not into model making or anime robots, so I don't even know why I haven't thrown it out yet.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Gromit posted:

I've had that box with the kit still in it for decades, and no idea where it came from. I'm not into model making or anime robots, so I don't even know why I haven't thrown it out yet.

I'm not into that stuff either but there is probably some turbo-nerd who would fork out good money for it. Decades old, unbuilt, plus box?

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

It's a bootleg kit too. Probably worth nothing except to someone collecting bootlegs

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Gaius Marius posted:

It's a bootleg kit too. Probably worth nothing except to someone collecting bootlegs

I'm positive that person exists somewhere, god only knows how to find them though. Even a person who collects normal ones might be tempted based on age and having the box etc., just as a curiosity. I don't know how common that kit is or was even in non-bootleg form when it was made or if they still make them etc. LIke I said you'd need to find a turbo-nerd.

Hell, toss it up on SA-Mart, post about it in the modeling thread (I assume we have one) there's a good chance someone will want it.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Gromit posted:

The computers are in plastic tubs so nothing gets into them. But the A2000 has been down there for nearly 20 years and I just don't want to check the battery. Right now it's in a quantum state of maybe being ok, but I know if I look at it, it will be a horror show.

Got some C64 games:





Nice collection, the Leather Goddess game would be worth a fair amount of money these days, especially if it has all the feelies in it

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

RoastBeef posted:

Here's a macrovision suppression circuit from 1995 and here's one from 2006. They don't look too complicated.

It's not. Macrovision works by sending control codes to the automatic gain control. If the VCR is recording, those codes tell the AGC to go a bit nuts. Those codes are embedded in the lines used for interlacing information. You basically just need to strip out the codes.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

Thomamelas posted:

It's not. Macrovision works by sending control codes to the automatic gain control. If the VCR is recording, those codes tell the AGC to go a bit nuts. Those codes are embedded in the lines used for interlacing information. You basically just need to strip out the codes.

This is true, if by “sending control codes” you mean “cramming garbage data into the VCR’s recording-hole.”

Macrovision usually screwed with the color/brightness of re-recorded content, by putting signals in the vertical blanking interval that basically said (while the electron beam was off) that the beam should be far brighter than should be possible. This made the auto gain control on most VCRs compensate and darken the signal for a few frames. Since the “brightness” of the colorstripe varied constantly, VCRs could never properly adjust. Some VCRs with manual gain knobs were mostly immune to this version, and would actually copy it right along with the rest of the tape.

Later versions, especially on protection applied to DVDs (or sometimes added during playback by the DVD players themselves), put things that looked a little like vertical blanking signals into the horizontal blanking interval. I don’t have as good of an understanding how that one worked (other than it caused image tearing); neither did a lot of TV manufacturers, though, because it created problems for cheaper CRTs (even without a VCR in the signal path), and caused some strife during the very early DVD adoption period.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Thomamelas posted:

It's not. Macrovision works by sending control codes to the automatic gain control. If the VCR is recording, those codes tell the AGC to go a bit nuts. Those codes are embedded in the lines used for interlacing information. You basically just need to strip out the codes.

Apparently the real genius behind Macrovision was not the actual technique they used to implement the copy protection, but that they patented all the obvious ways to strip it from a video signal which gave them legal teeth to go after people making such devices in a pre-DMCA world.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Was it this thread where we were discussing some old timey food/drink youtube channels?

I've just discovered this channel which I find really easy to lose time watching video after video (although I live in constant fear for them breaking that induction cooktop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfq9JKD3E3E

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Humphreys posted:

Was it this thread where we were discussing some old timey food/drink youtube channels?

I've just discovered this channel which I find really easy to lose time watching video after video (although I live in constant fear for them breaking that induction cooktop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfq9JKD3E3E

you got to see his videos on recreating the KFC original recipe.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

LifeSunDeath posted:

you got to see his videos on recreating the KFC original recipe.

Is KFC old enough to be from the "gently caress everything, how about uranium red, ayahuasca and hemp seed oil" days, or is, you know, reasonable?

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Computer viking posted:

Is KFC old enough to be from the "gently caress everything, how about uranium red, ayahuasca and hemp seed oil" days, or is, you know, reasonable?

It dates from the 1930s so post FDA.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Humphreys posted:

Was it this thread where we were discussing some old timey food/drink youtube channels?

I've just discovered this channel which I find really easy to lose time watching video after video (although I live in constant fear for them breaking that induction cooktop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfq9JKD3E3E

The real problem with key lime pie is that the "key limes" you find at the market today (at least in the Americas) come from Mexico and Texas and are a shitload more bitter and drier and astringent than limes that were grown in the Keys, since they're grown in much dryer climates. Using regular non-Key limes is going to give you something much closer to Key lime pie as originally presented.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Rap Game Goku posted:

It dates from the 1930s so post FDA.

Right, I guess that's for the best. I was about to ask followup questions, but it's probably more reasonable to just put the video in the queue. :)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


LifeSunDeath posted:

you got to see his videos on recreating the KFC original recipe.

Oh I really want to make it, but LOL who can afford a pressure fryer!?

On another note, does anyone have a Pentium 3 case sticker thy can chuck in an envelope for me?

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Humphreys posted:

Oh I really want to make it, but LOL who can afford a pressure fryer!?

On another note, does anyone have a Pentium 3 case sticker thy can chuck in an envelope for me?

https://geekenspiel.com/products/pentium-iii-case-badge-sticker-metallic

Geekenspiel makes good replicas. They have other styles, too.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
heard y'all talking about system 32, well meet system 36

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Kazy posted:

https://geekenspiel.com/products/pentium-iii-case-badge-sticker-metallic

Geekenspiel makes good replicas. They have other styles, too.

Thanks! Those will do nicely for my project. Found some others on their site relevant to my interests and added to the bag!

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Kazy posted:

https://geekenspiel.com/products/pentium-iii-case-badge-sticker-metallic

Geekenspiel makes good replicas. They have other styles, too.

I was going to be all :argh: if they didn't have the Best Buy Y2K Remember sticker, but they do!

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

LifeSunDeath posted:

heard y'all talking about system 32, well meet system 36


Oh neat, that's apparently a predecessor of the AS/400 and i systems. As I understand it, the modern ones are basically a database with a custom OS wrapped around it, but I have even less of an idea what the old ones were like.

Honestly, all the custom IBM hardware and software is fascinating and weird to me - it's like a glimpse of a parallel universe that proudly predates and ignores the standards I'm used to.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Computer viking posted:

it's like a glimpse of a parallel universe that proudly predates and ignores the standards I'm used to.

I watch these Curious Marc videos from time to time, and all the early space flight computers were nuts. much of it was hand built and using innovative technologies that have been totally forgotten in modern computing, so it's actual computer archeology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0aFLQvFxc

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Trabant posted:

I was going to be all :argh: if they didn't have the Best Buy Y2K Remember sticker, but they do!

More importantly, they also have the end of the unix epoch sticker as well.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
That one might be more useful, but I prefer the open-ended nature of the Y2K sticker. Should have just turned the computers off and left them that way.

At this point it's not a warning but a lament.

Killingyouguy!
Sep 8, 2014

Trabant posted:

I was going to be all :argh: if they didn't have the Best Buy Y2K Remember sticker, but they do!

Gonna start covering up racist graffiti with these

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




My Pentium 75MHz machine has a Y2K bugged BIOS, but it only affects the clock. If you set the time in BIOS to anything past 2000 it resets to 1.1.1995 (the year the motherboard was released and earliest date it allows).

You'd think five years was close enough to test it, but no. This lead me to write a year prompt to my autoexec.bat. Initially I just ran the date command but I hated typing the whole date. So now I keep the BIOS at the correct date, except in the 90s and only enter the correct year.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Computer viking posted:

Honestly, all the custom IBM hardware and software is fascinating and weird to me - it's like a glimpse of a parallel universe that proudly predates and ignores the standards I'm used to.

Sir, what are those non-IBM :airquote:standards:airquote: you are referring to?

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Thread of old and beautiful tech.

https://twitter.com/NanoRaptor/status/1367065109080596483?s=20&t=qrAgiATflyNxhP7Z1Uapkg

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