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i think it's allowed to be mad at someone even if people already know they're a dumbass.
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Also before this happened Yoshida literally put out a statement saying "please don't use mods we are going to take swift action against those who are" so it makes sense that someone ignoring that is going to get bopped a little extra.
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May 10, 2022 22:05
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Kagaya Homoraisan posted:okay but square has been like this for literally decades so why is it something to be shocked about? It isn't, you can certainly say all the streamers should have known better, but regardless as far as a chilling effect argument goes I think this does make things a lot colder
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May 10, 2022 22:06
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At the end of the day, all they're going to do is cause fewer people to stream the game, which is kind of funny. And lol if they think top players are going to stop using mods and be at a huge disadvantage in a World First race. They just won't stream and it will be business as usual.
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May 10, 2022 22:07
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Warmachine posted:It's banning a highly visible target as a warning to the others. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why they'd do that. But just in case, it's because it is red meat to appease the people complaining, and (theoretically) serves to scare other people off. Why do they need to throw red meat to the complainers though? That's the part i'm saying is childish.
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May 10, 2022 22:08
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it's not like they're going to add any serious anti-cheat beyond what already exists as that would risk upsetting the 1.0 code gremlins so this really only affects streamers and people who can't shut up
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May 10, 2022 22:08
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time to go back to the lawless lands of final fantasy 11 where you can speedhack in front of a GM and they won't give a poo poo
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Vitamean posted:time to go back to the lawless lands of final fantasy 11 where you can speedhack in front of a GM and they won't give a poo poo They'd also stand around invisible and watch players train mobs onto fishing bots and laugh about it, because they weren't allowed to do anything more than that. source: me, I used to work at SOE waaay back in the day when SOE was the contracted company for their NA CS/GM work.
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May 10, 2022 22:14
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i wonder how many full time or even part time GMs ffxi still has on staff
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Macaluso posted:There's a lot of amazing clothing mods too. Now there are also a lot of extremely horny sex mods, and one of the main mods that is required for a lot of outfits is something called Bibo+, which is a body replacement mod. And you can set it to have small clothes or full nude. I get the reasoning behind nude mods, I don't fully understand why so many of the clothing mods require Bibo+ or this other mod "Tight and Firm" (though Bibo+ keeps the body shape the same if you pick the small option.). I'd rather not have to bother going to the effort of installing an entire body mod just to put on all these cool clothes. If you forgo using TexTools, there's a mod for XIVLauncher called Penumbra that does all that too. You can import .ttmp2 files and it does the right thing, only instead of modifying the underlying game files it unpacks them to a given directory, and redirects resource loads from the game files to the enabled addons. Multiple things can affect the same piece, and there's a system where you can set priority to certain mods. You can also add Character Collections which are sets of mods that should always be applied to a specific character from a specific server, so multiple mods that affect the same thing could be enabled for different characters. These are a bit more complicated to deal with though. Penumbra also enables replacing music files, so for example when I go back to Rak'tika Greatwood I hear the lovely sounds of Soken's voice. Or I have a mod I made myself to play Black Hole Sun in Ultima Thule
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Selane posted:At the end of the day, all they're going to do is cause fewer people to stream the game, which is kind of funny. And lol if they think top players are going to stop using mods and be at a huge disadvantage in a World First race. They just won't stream and it will be business as usual. It's not like there's any reward for WF'ing besides bragging rights so does this really matter? Just turn the mods off if you're gonna stream. Vitamean posted:time to go back to the lawless lands of final fantasy 11 where you can speedhack in front of a GM and they won't give a poo poo Just don't mention you tabbed out of the game in a public chat channel
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parasyte posted:If you forgo using TexTools, there's a mod for XIVLauncher called Penumbra that does all that too. You can import .ttmp2 files and it does the right thing, only instead of modifying the underlying game files it unpacks them to a given directory, and redirects resource loads from the game files to the enabled addons. Multiple things can affect the same piece, and there's a system where you can set priority to certain mods. This is tempting ngl
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Selane posted:At the end of the day, all they're going to do is cause fewer people to stream the game, which is kind of funny. And lol if they think top players are going to stop using mods and be at a huge disadvantage in a World First race. They just won't stream and it will be business as usual. I mean the thing is that part of World First is having a visual record showing you did. So they'll have to decide between visible mods (knowing logically any opponents they have are going to be looking for ways to disqualify them) or streaming it without mods. A big part of the appeal of WF is the glory so "they just won't stream" is unlikely. Now mods that are less visible? Sure. But as long as they are not appearing onscreen SE probably won't care.
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Chillgamesh posted:Just don't mention you tabbed out of the game in a public chat channel Is this like being the first one to fall asleep at a sleepover?
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May 10, 2022 22:19
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Oh my god why are we still talking about this.
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talk about something else if it bothers you so much
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I started doing ranked matches in CC and even on the lowest level I'm still getting owned. Starting to think I might just be bad at this. 
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ImpAtom posted:I mean the thing is that part of World First is having a visual record showing you did. So they'll have to decide between visible mods (knowing logically any opponents they have are going to be looking for ways to disqualify them) or streaming it without mods. You can just post a screenshot of the kill on twitter and that's enough. On top of that, at least one person will probably have a vanilla POV. The world first team didn't actually stream their prog so that won't change at all. Also Pyromancer has now decided to stream his game with all the cosmetic only addons enabled (ie no nameplate debuffs or anything). It will be interesting to see if he gets banned for that. CJ fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 10, 2022 |
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IIRC the first 3 clears were teams with no one streaming. The guy who 5chan/yoshida decided should be nuked from orbit only posted a clear video afterwards. I don't really get it personally, but the vibe I got was that the top FF14 teams want the advantage of mods and not leaking strats and feel they get the glory regardless. Honestly the thing that would move the needle there is probably money, and arthars did rake in a huge amount over the course of the prog. But he also said he felt their team was at a huge disadvantage for doing it
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Vermain posted:Per Mesotes' description, you need to have the Lype debuff active on yourself to be able to damage targets within the Mesotes circle. If you activate Sky Shatter outside the circle, it likely doesn't apply Lype to you before the Sky Shatter landing packet is sent, so you deal 0 damage. Yeah, Primal Rend doesn't work for the same reason if the warrior starts outside. The 0 damage is locked in before the warrior gets the debuff, so you only get stunned. Subjunctive posted:SA GOTY #1 FFXIV: no mods, some masters Does being a Mahjong Master count? Tamba fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 10, 2022 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:I started doing ranked matches in CC and even on the lowest level I'm still getting owned. I started with an absolutely horrific winrate, like probably 20% for the first week or more, before I settled on a class I enjoyed and could focus on learning match dynamics. It's fine to get wrecked for a while as long as you're paying attention to what you can improve.
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i might get to 50 in eureka today
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What's the most boring class story and why is it Warrior 30-50?
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Sorry, did you misspell "Marauder 1-30"? You know, the one that's literally: Hey, go break rocks You haven't broken enough rocks That's good, but I think I saw some rocks over there I had something for you to do but I forgot what it was, so go break rocks instead Okay, enough with the rocks, now stop that bandit that looks suspiciously like your trainer (but don't look too close) Where did that sheep come from? Whatever, just kill it! Albu-quirky Guy fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 10, 2022 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Also before this happened Yoshida literally put out a statement saying "please don't use mods we are going to take swift action against those who are" so it makes sense that someone ignoring that is going to get bopped a little extra. Hiroro Moon was streaming DSR prog when the announcement was posted and they were banned 2 hours later, having never paused their raiding, after being mass-reported by 5ch. They had no opportunity to ever learn of this new warning before being punished.
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sassassin posted:What's the most boring class story and why is it Warrior 30-50? Warrior 50-60 is worse because it's just more of the same poo poo. The 60-70 one is funny in a dumb anime way though. Gunbreaker is probably the one that is the most forgettable. All i remember about it is there's the Hrothgar and Viera and they do something or other. Just stop doing them, worked for me.
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Warrior 30-50 doesn't even belong on a worst list when things like Paladin (any) or White Mage 50-60 exist.
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That was a joke i do actually do most of them.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Warrior 30-50 doesn't even belong on a worst list when things like Paladin (any) or White Mage 50-60 exist. Are you saying you didn't enjoy cleansing the foul taints of Eorzea?
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Mediocre take: That time Ishgardians murdered a bunch of Au Ra refugees for no real reason doesn't get brought up enough.
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Antivehicular posted:Are you saying you didn't enjoy cleansing the foul taints of Eorzea? I have a one taint limit.
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real champions of eorzea do it without mods
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I got suspended in FFXI in 2005 for pos hacking so clearly the GMs had some power I did, however, never get dinged for cheating my way into the endgame area which was locked behind a questline requiring you to be 70+ on a level 10 character
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Hellioning posted:Oh my god why are we still talking about this. Einhar LOOOVES talking about bizarre cheating policies e: wrong game sry
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ImpAtom posted:A big part of the appeal of WF is the glory so "they just won't stream" is unlikely. TPS hasn't streamed any of their world firsts (and in fact this is a large part of the "TPS uses an emulated datamined server" rumors), so yeah people will just stop streaming if this continues on.
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No one actually going for WF was streaming for the very legitimate reason of not giving away information. It just conveniently also lets them also use every tool at their disposal, which they absolutely do.
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no, because the world first contender groups have NEVER streamed. not any of them. the people who stream do it for entirely different reasons (mostly, money and clout) meaning they will stream theyll just turn their poo poo off.
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:Sorry, did you misspell "Marauder 1-30"? You know, the one that's literally: Marauder is a sports movie. You train for the big game, win with the help of your friends, and then a kid says he wants to be like you one day. There's also a valuable lesson about bloody vengeance being a key part of the emotional healing process. edit: Paladin is better than "sad man stands under waterfall and can't make up his mind".
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parasyte posted:If you forgo using TexTools, there's a mod for XIVLauncher called Penumbra that does all that too. You can import .ttmp2 files and it does the right thing, only instead of modifying the underlying game files it unpacks them to a given directory, and redirects resource loads from the game files to the enabled addons. Multiple things can affect the same piece, and there's a system where you can set priority to certain mods. Interesting, I may have to look into Penumbra then, though I've never used XIVLauncher before. I've been using TexTools and it does the job at a basic level but yeah it being clunky and not playing nice with multiple mods using the same piece of gear is a bit frustrating.
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