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Jimmy Smuts posted:Those guys are wearing DCUs, I'm pretty sure it's an old pic I see a BK for Burger King but not a BK for Batman Knight
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Ukraine artillery and Starlink: https://twitter.com/trenttelenko/status/1523791050313433088
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I regret to inform you, that Bayraktar is milkshake duck: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/05/16/the-turkish-drone-that-changed-the-nature-of-warfare seems like a smart dude and a good weapon, but the guy is a huge Erdogan stan. Also Turkey is definitely gonna genocide some Kurds and Armenians with them in the next 10 years.
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May 11, 2022 00:33
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Jimmy Smuts posted:That fact that we can easily deploy such things with impunity, while the Russians are feeding their troops expired garbage, says a lot It’s similar to the Pacific when Japan was losing tens of thousands of troops to starvation while the US was putting ice cream machines on ships.
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mrmcd posted:I regret to inform you, that Bayraktar is milkshake duck: its a turkish weapon system, this isn't shocking at all
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May 11, 2022 00:52
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Madurai posted:Ukraine artillery and Starlink: Trent is not what I would call a reliable analyst.
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mrmcd posted:I regret to inform you, that Bayraktar is milkshake duck: They already started https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_war?wprov=sfla1
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May 11, 2022 01:04
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Madurai posted:Ukraine artillery and Starlink: This is a huge thread in case it's not obvious. Threadreader link to make reading a bit easier: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1523791050313433088.html
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May 11, 2022 01:07
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mlmp08 posted:Trent is not what I would call a reliable analyst. Dude knew one thing about tires and is now a twitter star. I look forward to his eric garland arc.
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Madurai posted:Ukraine artillery and Starlink: it does not take one hour to get call for fire lol, that person is a moron
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PookBear posted:it does not take one hour to get call for fire lol, that person is a moron Idiot savant for tires, actually.
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PookBear posted:it does not take one hour to get call for fire lol, that person is a moron Yeah this dude clearly has no idea what the hell he’s talking about. From call for fire to target prosecution should be under five minutes (3 if the battery is assigned to support that specific unit and is standing by).
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May 11, 2022 01:33
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mrmcd posted:I regret to inform you, that Bayraktar is milkshake duck: gently caress i can't believe i can no longer consider myself woke and also a fan of a turkish weapons system only one will save me from marauding russians though
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May 11, 2022 01:38
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This might make a bit of a noise. https://twitter.com/kdvncm/status/1524121921574604806
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May 11, 2022 01:46
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mlmp08 posted:Trent is not what I would call a reliable analyst. In the few words in the first tweet the OP manages to blame a favorite Trump conspiracy target for reducing American combat effectiveness while implying that Ayn Rand poster boy Musk is going to save us. Yeah, I picked up that it was likely to be unreliable too.
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May 11, 2022 01:48
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Farking Bastage posted:This might make a bit of a noise. Why bother with Excalibur? Ukraine has Grads.
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Murgos posted:Why bother with Excalibur? Ukraine has Grads. Much more economical alternative.
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May 11, 2022 01:53
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In Soviet revanchism, Ukraine invades YOU!
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Grand Fromage posted:In Soviet revanchism, Ukraine invades YOU! I'm not trying to be glib here, is there any portion of the front where that's a possibility? What happens if Ukrainians take Russian territory in Russia properly and not russian-occupied formerly Ukrainian territory?
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I mean, wouldn't it work better out in the bargaining table if they had pieces if Russia to trade back for pre 2014 borders??
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OPAONI posted:I'm not trying to be glib here, is there any portion of the front where that's a possibility? What happens if Ukrainians take Russian territory in Russia properly and not russian-occupied formerly Ukrainian territory? Personally, I think it would be hilarious if Ukraine captured Belgorad and then bartered it back to Russia for the Donbass and Sevastopol. However, invading Russia proper probably gets Putin the mobilization and support he needs to really make this whole thing even more obnoxious than it already is.
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OPAONI posted:I'm not trying to be glib here, is there any portion of the front where that's a possibility? What happens if Ukrainians take Russian territory in Russia properly and not russian-occupied formerly Ukrainian territory? No one knows. It would be a pretty major symbolic black eye for our mate, but actual effects? Who the gently caress knows.
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May 11, 2022 02:47
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Lightning raids into Russian territory to blow up POL depots (though they seem to be doing that fine by air), road and rail links! Do we have a 'Tom Clancy furiously masturbating' emoji?
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OPAONI posted:I'm not trying to be glib here, is there any portion of the front where that's a possibility? What happens if Ukrainians take Russian territory in Russia properly and not russian-occupied formerly Ukrainian territory? They're actively regaining territory around Kharkiv and the rest of the front is mostly stagnant with small gains and losses here and there. What force either side can bring to bear a month from now is impossible to gauge, but Ukraine's mobilization is likely outpacing Russia's at the moment.
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OPAONI posted:I'm not trying to be glib here, is there any portion of the front where that's a possibility? What happens if Ukrainians take Russian territory in Russia properly and not russian-occupied formerly Ukrainian territory? I was going to say it would be such an absolute embarrassment that it would be the end of Putin but then I remembered the level of control of media. So more likely used as casus belli to go towards full mobilization (those drat Nazis wouldn't accept being de-nazified and allowing "independent" states and now they have invaded us! We gotta mobilize the whole army now!). Hammering useful strategic military targets in Russia that impede their ability to supply troops in Ukraine via artillery, sneaky copters and sabotage is one thing, rolling tanks flying Ukrainian flags into Russian cities is an entirely different thing, in terms of optics. It's also probably too soon for that to even happen. Now in a month or so as US supplies filter through and Russia loses more and more the north east is probably where Ukraine will be able to theoretically roll across the border first. I doubt they'll do it for the reasons stated above though.
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Why roll tanks when you can bomb every oil tank and railyard to rubble without setting foot over the border? Why use subtle under-the-radar helicopter raids when you could throw artillery shells on target and every other thing besides? What's wrong with softening up Belgorod, tactically, and then just leaving it as a message?
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Arrath posted:Do we have a 'Tom Clancy furiously masturbating' emoji? edit: What would be the effects of full mobilization be on the economy? I'm guessing it would nuke it further? Jimmy Smuts fucked around with this message at 03:41 on May 11, 2022 |
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Grand Fromage posted:In Soviet revanchism, Ukraine invades YOU! Russia has at least a few cities that would give the Ukranian sphere of influence a much-needed buffer zone. Like belgorod
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Violating Russian territorial integrity would probably legit put nukes on the table.
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it's a shitpost, but as a non-shitpost: putin is beyond done if he ever needs to use nuclear weapons to defend russian territorial integrity from ukraine
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So... Able Archer '22 when?
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davecrazy posted:Violating Russian territorial integrity would probably legit put nukes on the table. This has already happened. Anyway according to Russian doctrine they'll launch their nukes if the state is under existential threat, so I don't believe they're going to if Belgorod is taken.
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IPCRESS posted:So... Able Archer '22 when? They’re calling it Exercise Arrow now, apparently.
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Ukraine actively invading Russia isn't something Ukraine needs to do, would invite sending the Ukrainian army into the same kind of morass that the Russians are now facing, and could lose Ukraine international support. Will Ukraine bomb and fire upon targets inside Russian borders? Sure. But they won't move troops in or try to hold territory. There's no point. Ukraine doesn't want Russian territory, they want Ukraine. The only real question there is Crimea, but it will probably be a lot easier for Ukraine to cut it off and isolate it and then just lay seige to a waterless Crimea until it surrenders.
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Yeah, I don't think Ukraine gains much from invading Russia. Being within artillery range of their MSRs gives them a substantial strategic advantage, and threatening to invade will ensure that Russian forces have to remain committed to protecting the border.
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Going up https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1524364367638192128?s=21&t=M7g18LgsQl-RJaF--KFp6g
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Did Soviet engineers fail to consider the risks of storing ammo beneath the turret, or did they just not care?
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psydude posted:Did Soviet engineers fail to consider the risks of storing ammo beneath the turret, or did they just not care? Look into your heart and you know the answer
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