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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


azflyboy posted:

I just found out that Charlie Kirk has a radio show.

I assume it's 100% about the struggles of having a comically tiny face and the best brands of diapers to wear to own the libs, but I don't hate myself enough to listen to it.

He's always coked out of his gourd from the clips I've seen.

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Invalid Validation posted:

It’s only socialism when it’s something they don’t like. My dad got on Medicaid and says it’s not socialism because he paid into it.
Yeah.

*I* am just getting a little back of what I've paid into the system with all my years of hard work; everyone else is a lazy entitled moocher.

My favorite variant of this is when a red area gets hit with a natural disaster and they ask for relief - they always make it very clear that they aren't asking for handouts, oh no, they just need a little help to get back on their feet, y'know?

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Piell posted:

The solution is antitrust but that ain't gonna happen
IIRC the market consolidation is mainly due to FDA safety standards that are way out of line with how difficult it is to produce safely. (Same as the insulin problem basically, except with way more "IT MIGHT HURT MY BABY" panic.)

OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 12, 2022

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

OneEightHundred posted:

IIRC the market consolidation is mainly due to FDA safety standards that are way out of line with how difficult it is to produce safely. (Same as the insulin problem basically, except with way more "IT MIGHT HURT MY BABY" panic.)

Two babies just died from contaminated formula, so it's a hell of a time to break out the "safety standards too rigorous" line

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?
We also make it insanely difficult to import formula too, even from countries with safety standards that meet/exceed our own.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

OneEightHundred posted:

IIRC the market consolidation is mainly due to FDA safety standards that are way out of line with how difficult it is to produce safely. (Same as the insulin problem basically, except with way more "IT MIGHT HURT MY BABY" panic.)

Yeah the problem isn't regulation. Is that its all consolidated under a monopoly.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Xakura posted:

Two babies just died from contaminated formula, so it's a hell of a time to break out the "safety standards too rigorous" line

At the same time, babies die from not having formula too.

Contamination is going to happen eventually, I believe the arguement is that having extreme rules means that the market is so limited that when a contamination does happen the entire national stock is obliterated.

Whether that's true or not I'm not sure, I am unfamiliar with the standards, but high standards don't prevent issues on their own.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

CuddleCryptid posted:

At the same time, babies die from not having formula too.

Contamination is going to happen eventually, I believe the arguement is that having extreme rules means that the market is so limited that when a contamination does happen the entire national stock is obliterated.

Whether that's true or not I'm not sure, I am unfamiliar with the standards, but high standards don't prevent issues on their own.

The 4 companies that make formula are all extremely profitable and just don't spend the money on maintenance, equipment, and safety. it's a cartel in all but name. The safety standards are in no way related to the shortages. it's greed and profit.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
NPR did a nice segment just now with a hard take down of Tucker Carlson that dove into how a guy like him reinforces white supremacist rhetoric. I don't subject myself to Carlson but they played some clips and holy poo poo.

If I can track down a link I will but it just aired.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

BiggerBoat posted:

NPR did a nice segment just now with a hard take down of Tucker Carlson that dove into how a guy like him reinforces white supremacist rhetoric. I don't subject myself to Carlson but they played some clips and holy poo poo.

If I can track down a link I will but it just aired.

I read a poll not too long ago that close to a majority of Republican voters believes in replacement theory.

https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1524746626090344449

it turns out they're all just fascist white supremacists.

Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 12, 2022

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Xakura posted:

Two babies just died from contaminated formula, so it's a hell of a time to break out the "safety standards too rigorous" line
It's sort of a "we're talking about how safe planes are to fly because one just crashed" type of situation.

CommieGIR posted:

Yeah the problem isn't regulation. Is that its all consolidated under a monopoly.
Right, and why is it a monopoly? It's a cheap-to-produce interchangeable product, so the existing players have very little leverage to keep competitors out of the market without some sort of artificial barrier jacking up the capital cost of forming one.

If the idea is "well we need that enormous cost to ensure that the products are safe" then well you've justified their current price.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Yeah, uhhh...turns out that "Replacing Native Born Americans" is bad, huh?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

OneEightHundred posted:

Right, and why is it a monopoly? It's a cheap-to-produce interchangeable product, so the existing players have very little leverage to keep competitors out of the market without some sort of artificial barrier jacking up the capital cost of forming one.

If the idea is "well we need that enormous cost to ensure that the products are safe" then well you've justified their current price.

Yes but you are ignoring that a regional monopoly is ALSO a problem that needs to be solved, and not just by importing competitors from overseas.

And to that end, don't put it above manufacturers to make up shortages to drive up cost.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

It's a market sector that is massively profitable because of volume, not margins.

Getting distribution set up and shelf space in stores is expensive, especially when there's only a relatively small number of retailers that control most of that shelf space as well.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.
Here's a good article on the situation:

https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/monopolies-and-the-baby-formula-shortage/

Also here's what the GOP is doing about it
https://twitter.com/elisefoley/status/1524804377994743809

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

BiggerBoat posted:

NPR did a nice segment just now with a hard take down of Tucker Carlson that dove into how a guy like him reinforces white supremacist rhetoric. I don't subject myself to Carlson but they played some clips and holy poo poo.

If I can track down a link I will but it just aired.

is it this?

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/12/1098488908/has-tucker-carlson-created-the-most-racist-show-in-the-history-of-cable-news

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
^^^That was it^^^

PRO CLICK BTW for anyone interested in this thread

I didn't hear the whole segment but what the half hour I did hear was compelling and filled me with rage. Thanks!

re: BABY FORMULA:

I was gonna say, there's gotta be a RWM article or TV segment explaining why all this baby formula shortage is the result of democrats wanting to starve them to ramp up the adrenochrome supply chain. Or it's because of some burdensome "safety" regulations where old fashioned american factories can't make the poo poo. Or it's because of NAFTA.

Whatever it is or why it's happening, the answer has to be "Biden and the Democrats" and probably some "democrats hate babies anyway/abortion so what do they care?" poo poo sprinkled in there so that the message is dems are causing this to increase support for abortions because "see? We can't feed them"

Soros probably has a hand in it somehow. Haven't heard him mentioned in a month or two.

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 19:42 on May 12, 2022

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

All lives matter though, right guys? Guys?

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Levantine posted:

All lives matter though, right guys? Guys?

Surprising nobody, Nehls is a cop who was so bad he actually got fired from a suburban PD. Shockingly that made him the slightly less batshit crazy option over his primary opponent Kathaleen Wall.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah, uhhh...turns out that "Replacing Native Born Americans" is bad, huh?

We are seeing white evangelical christians turning their religion into a weird kind of animism crossed with ancestral worship so it really does fit.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009

BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah, uhhh...turns out that "Replacing Native Born Americans" is bad, huh?

I feel like I've seen this show already, I remember something about smallpox????

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

We kiiinda had an infant formula shortage here because of safety regulations. In that the regulations meant that the formula was good and safe, and when the baby formula in China turned out to not be safe we had a lot of people buying it off the shelf here to send to their relatives in China, meaning shops had trouble keeping it in stock and had to limit the quantity-per-purchaser.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

BiggerBoat posted:

Soros probably has a hand in it somehow. Haven't heard him mentioned in a month or two.
It's because Soros is fighting in Ukraine.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Murgos posted:

It's because Soros is fighting in Ukraine.

On which side? My newsletters and emails have dried up.

Along with all those checks he sent me to protest poo poo.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

BiggerBoat posted:

^^^That was it^^^

PRO CLICK BTW for anyone interested in this thread

I didn't hear the whole segment but what the half hour I did hear was compelling and filled me with rage. Thanks!

re: BABY FORMULA:

I was gonna say, there's gotta be a RWM article or TV segment explaining why all this baby formula shortage is the result of democrats wanting to starve them to ramp up the adrenochrome supply chain. Or it's because of some burdensome "safety" regulations where old fashioned american factories can't make the poo poo. Or it's because of NAFTA.

Whatever it is or why it's happening, the answer has to be "Biden and the Democrats" and probably some "democrats hate babies anyway/abortion so what do they care?" poo poo sprinkled in there so that the message is dems are causing this to increase support for abortions because "see? We can't feed them"

Soros probably has a hand in it somehow. Haven't heard him mentioned in a month or two.

Actually according to Kevin McCarthy it's because they subpoenaed him and others in regards to committing literal Sedition.

But that other stuff might be involved

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



BiggerBoat posted:

On which side? My newsletters and emails have dried up.

Along with all those checks he sent me to protest poo poo.

Oh contact your Area Ringleader for sure. The COL adjustment was great this quarter, everything's going according to plan.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

BiggerBoat posted:

^^^That was it^^^

PRO CLICK BTW for anyone interested in this thread

I didn't hear the whole segment but what the half hour I did hear was compelling and filled me with rage. Thanks!

re: BABY FORMULA:

I was gonna say, there's gotta be a RWM article or TV segment explaining why all this baby formula shortage is the result of democrats wanting to starve them to ramp up the adrenochrome supply chain. Or it's because of some burdensome "safety" regulations where old fashioned american factories can't make the poo poo. Or it's because of NAFTA.

Whatever it is or why it's happening, the answer has to be "Biden and the Democrats" and probably some "democrats hate babies anyway/abortion so what do they care?" poo poo sprinkled in there so that the message is dems are causing this to increase support for abortions because "see? We can't feed them"

Soros probably has a hand in it somehow. Haven't heard him mentioned in a month or two.

Oh you didn't hear? It's Bill Gates

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1524561573020327938?s=20&t=b3tM8Ws6a4qOOVvJJ2CLyg

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

If artificial breast milk is approved for widespread consumption within even a decade of today then forget toxxing, one of you can just come to my house and shoot me.

Sekhmnet
Jan 22, 2019


CuddleCryptid posted:

If artificial breast milk is approved for widespread consumption within even a decade of today then forget toxxing, one of you can just come to my house and shoot me.

Isn't that what formula is? You don't need to have a baby to buy it, you can just drink it if you want. Make white baby russians or something.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

Sekhmnet posted:

Isn't that what formula is? You don't need to have a baby to buy it, you can just drink it if you want. Make white baby russians or something.

the real meaning of the 14 words

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Tucker: “Russians aren’t white!”

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!

CuddleCryptid posted:

If artificial breast milk is approved for widespread consumption within even a decade of today then forget toxxing, one of you can just come to my house and shoot me.

Plot twist: the artificial breastmilk just ends up being thousands of poor women in India being milked like cows like in Fury Road.

Sekhmnet
Jan 22, 2019


Panfilo posted:

Plot twist: the artificial breastmilk just ends up being thousands of poor women in India being milked like cows like in Fury Road.

Desi-cola! I wonder if nestle already has a patent

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Tangentially related to RWM, I enjoyed this op-ed about the gradual but consistent movement rightward of the Overton Window and what it means now to be a repbulican

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/13/opinions/gop-extremists-kathy-barnette-trump-zelizer/index.html

It goes into Goldwater, Reagan, Gingrich, Palin and touches on RWM a bit.

quote:

While Democrats keep coming back to their center with politicians such as President Biden or Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Republicans are continuing to go all in with the newest crop of extremists. The dynamic is almost inevitable as this is the history of the modern GOP.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Sekhmnet posted:

Desi-cola! I wonder if nestle already has a patent

Nestle would just fund the spiky car raiders to kill them instead.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Not a great sign that right-wing media personalities are saying "the mass shooter was right"

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/1525869457435807744
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1525869976544071681?s=20&t=MfMLucLgTpk-4LHJ_nqyIw

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Groovelord Neato posted:

Not a great sign that right-wing media personalities are saying "the mass shooter was right"

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/status/1525869457435807744

Some people say stuff about America being some kinda land of freedom and opportunity where people historically have come to find a new way of life. Others mention weird stuff about our foreign policy creating refugees whose well-being we're morally obligated to look after. But these are nonsense, vicious smokescreens. Democrats just be stealin' elections.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
You have to realize that probably 1/5 of the population looks at this shooting and concludes "it's about loving time"

This country is rapidly embracing fascism and all of our problems as a nation create a very fertile and ripe environment for it to fully happen. Trump's win in 2024 is going to be seen as a redemption for the right and a conclusive repudiation of "socialism", even though Biden is pretty far from a radical left wing socialist. Doesn't matter.

They're TOLD he is and they believe it. His abject failure on every conceivable level is all they're going to need for the great Double Down. It's like Carter ---> Reagan all over again except that at least Jimmy Carter was/is a decent human being. Who's going to stop this? And how?

poo poo feels real ugly to me right now and the mood is very toxic, tense and angry here in the 904 of Florida. All this Tucker and talk radio poo poo certainly isn't helping and one can't tell teh difference between this shooter's manifesto and Carlson transcript. I increasingly feel like we are in big, BIG trouble. I think we can give it about 24 hours before the RWM starts calling this guy a left wing looney and points to his owning a copy of Mein Kampf as evidence.

Because Hitler was a socialist you see.

Roe v Wade is dead and gay marriage and contraception are next. Vote by mail. Gerrymandering out the rear end. We're hosed.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

BiggerBoat posted:

You have to realize that probably 1/5 of the population looks at this shooting and concludes "it's about loving time"

This country is rapidly embracing fascism and all of our problems as a nation create a very fertile and ripe environment for it to fully happen. Trump's win in 2024 is going to be seen as a redemption for the right and a conclusive repudiation of "socialism", even though Biden is pretty far from a radical left wing socialist. Doesn't matter.

They're TOLD he is and they believe it. His abject failure on every conceivable level is all they're going to need for the great Double Down. It's like Carter ---> Reagan all over again except that at least Jimmy Carter was/is a decent human being. Who's going to stop this? And how?

poo poo feels real ugly to me right now and the mood is very toxic, tense and angry here in the 904 of Florida. All this Tucker and talk radio poo poo certainly isn't helping and one can't tell teh difference between this shooter's manifesto and Carlson transcript. I increasingly feel like we are in big, BIG trouble. I think we can give it about 24 hours before the RWM starts calling this guy a left wing looney and points to his owning a copy of Mein Kampf as evidence.

Because Hitler was a socialist you see.

Roe v Wade is dead and gay marriage and contraception are next. Vote by mail. Gerrymandering out the rear end. We're hosed.

So, I don't know if this is helpful or not, but it helps me to remember that we aren't becoming horrible... we've been horrible for forever and are just becoming increasingly bad at hiding it. We have been in big trouble, so we are not currently in some worse situation, we're just more aware.

Do your best to survive in a hostile world and look for opportunities to make it better.

Helps me, anyhow. That, and a metric ton of privilege.

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Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
If that's an example of the guys refugees are meant to be replacing, then I say let's get it going! Maybe we can have a country of decent human beings rather than bigoted poo poo stains.

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