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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:I keep going on "discovery" first time flights with the oldest, most frail instructors I can find but they just won't die mid flight so I can satisfy my hero pilot dreams, what should I do to induce a heart attack in an elderly pilot? Have you tried working the shaft?
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I’ve ended up at MCI approximately 3 hours before my flight. Pray for me. e: The winds at DEN are hosed and it looks like they're in and out of a west all configuration so I might catch a loving delay too. That wouldn't have happened if I'd gotten here last minute like was originally supposed to happen! e2: Some airline with a lovely tiny regional jet has been announcing that x flight can't handle all the carry ons every 3 minutes since I've been here. I have headphones on and am listening to music but it's still annoyingly loud. e3: boarded an hour ago. Still sitting here because we have no gas. There are small children screaming and hitting the flight attendant button. I fear we all join them soon. fknlo fucked around with this message at 01:01 on May 13, 2022 |
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May 12, 2022 21:30
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Zero One posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/faa-suspends-licenses-two-pilots-involved-failed-red-bull-stunt-rcna28506 Given that they asked for permission for the stunt and were explicitly denied before they decided "we'll do it anyway", wouldn't they probably have faced repercussions even if they hadn't crashed a plane?
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May 12, 2022 21:46
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So the FAA took Red Bull's wings? 
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May 12, 2022 22:31
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Luneshot posted:Given that they asked for permission for the stunt and were explicitly denied before they decided "we'll do it anyway", wouldn't they probably have faced repercussions even if they hadn't crashed a plane? Quite possibly, though the whims of the FSDO means anything can happen.
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May 12, 2022 22:42
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Sorry about the horrendous ticktock video player but here, more proof that helicopters are suicide death machines. https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7095586206989307142 Both occupants died. No gore.
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May 12, 2022 22:45
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BIG HEADLINE posted:the FAA took Red Bull's wings? Thread title right there holy poo poo
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May 12, 2022 22:45
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So the FAA took Red Bull's wings?
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May 12, 2022 23:30
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:The worst part is now there's a sim enthusiast with no training who truly believes that this poo poo is easy and everyone is too uptight. I mean, flying is super easy. Flying safely and legally is the tricky bit
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May 13, 2022 00:05
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The Real Amethyst posted:Sorry about the horrendous ticktock video player but here, more proof that helicopters are suicide death machines. I...what happened? Can it be determined in the video what caused the crash itself? How did they die? Did the nose smash in or did they spin to death? What the gently caress.
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May 13, 2022 00:37
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FrozenVent posted:Thread title right there holy poo poo Red Bull gets your wings revoked
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May 13, 2022 01:27
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I...what happened? Can it be determined in the video what caused the crash itself? How did they die? Did the nose smash in or did they spin to death? What the gently caress. Pilot shouldn't have been flying without an instructor. https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/92336/pdf
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May 13, 2022 01:56
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:I keep going on "discovery" first time flights with the oldest, most frail instructors I can find but they just won't die mid flight so I can satisfy my hero pilot dreams, what should I do to induce a heart attack in an elderly pilot? Give them COVID.
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May 13, 2022 02:11
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Zero One posted:Pilot shouldn't have been flying without an instructor. quote:Although the pilot had many years of experience flying a Bell 407 helicopter, there were two significant differences between the Bell 407 and the accident helicopter. First, their main rotor systems rotated in opposite directions; therefore, the foot pedal inputs required to counteract changes in torque during takeoff and landing were opposite. (The pilot's difficulty adapting to this difference was evidenced during most of the previous takeoffs captured by the onboard video when the helicopter yawed significantly after lifting off.) Second, the tips of the landing skids, which were used as a visual reference during landing, were forward of the pilot in the Bell 407 but just aft of the pilot in the accident helicopter. This change in visual reference would have been particularly significant during dolly landings, which require landing on a specific point directly below the pilot's field of view.
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May 13, 2022 02:23
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Genuine question: How do you compensate for yaw being backward from your reflexes? Experience?
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Zero One posted:Pilot shouldn't have been flying without an instructor. Thanks for posting this, read the whole thing. Christ that's depressing.
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Genuine question: How do you compensate for yaw being backward from your reflexes? Experience? Well, if you had a lot of experience, the correct reaction to the torque would probably already be reflexive. In the case that your reflexes say one thing but the correct move is different, I'd say you just have to have a lot of mental fortitude, I guess. I would have thought -- hoped -- that a pilot's reflexes would be more like "if the helicopter is twisting left, apply right pedal" rather than "on takeoff, apply right pedal," though. In fixed-wing planes instructors find themselves yelling "right rudder!" to their students on takeoff, because basically every American single-engine plane has a tendency to yaw left at high power -- but ideally the pilot just learns to reflexively keep the nose straight rather than stomping on the right pedal by rote. Russian planes yaw the other way. I once rented a motorcycle in India to ride around some mountain roads. It was a lot of fun. India drives on the left, but these roads had no markings. At one point, the road narrowed as a truck was coming the other way. Both of us started to pull over a bit to make room. I pulled over to the right side of the road, as I was used to. The truck pulled over to the left side of the road, as he was used to. Yeah. Fortunately there was enough room to go around and we weren't going very fast and nothing bad happened, but it scared the poo poo out of me when I realized what had happened.
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May 13, 2022 03:14
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Sagebrush posted:Well, if you had a lot of experience, the correct reaction to the torque would probably already be reflexive. We got into a discussion about this (about something else, but this in abstract) in the Discord. There's the rote input ("right rudder on takeoff") AND the closed-loop running ("opposite rudder of which way it's yawing,") and for the experienced pilot, both modes of thought are (or, should) be active simultaneously. After all, if the airplane has yawed to begin with, for you to notice and counteract, then you've already failed at keeping it straight. When learning, the closed-loop mode tends to be neglected because there's only so much that someone can process at once. But no matter how one learns, the rote association will be active at some point, and will take some effort to undo when getting into a wrong-way yawing aircraft for the first time. I did a few hours in a Yak and it wasn't a big deal, but I was already in a, uh, very yaw-sensitive mindset as a tailwheel instructor for years. Nevertheless, I was glad for my first wrong-way airplane to be a tricycle geared one.
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May 13, 2022 03:53
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It's also more than just yaw in the precise hover environment- it's collective-coupled anti torque in the wrong direction, causing translating tendency in the wrong direction, requiring cyclic in the wrong direction. Fine control over hovering that type of aircraft is a finesse activity, where erroneous inputs and overcorrections build and amplify and run away. Dude should've flown away and skidded onto the runway at 30kts for a no damage return, but since ego is the most fragile part of the aircraft here we are.
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May 13, 2022 04:16
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It may hardly qualify & you may laugh, but this sounds like a training.muscle memory thing, in the same vein as driving manual transmission or on the left side of the road. Flying R/C, I have to be aware that my control inputs are opposite when the plane is flying towards me. It did become second nature to perform those inputs, but it took a long time and cost me many hours reassembling the thing in the shop.
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PainterofCrap posted:It may hardly qualify & you may laugh, but this sounds like a training.muscle memory thing, in the same vein as driving manual transmission or on the left side of the road. Flying RC, I am now aware I do not have the patience or wallet for 3D helicopters. Back to my Phantom.
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FrozenVent posted:Thread title right there holy poo poo AI IK been nudged to see what he thinks 
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So speaking of bad things happening: TCM reminded me of an anniversary. May 6th, 1937 - the 85th anniversary of the Hindenburg disaster. The day the dream and some people died. I just watched The Hindenburg [1975], and if you are into airships, I'd recommend it. Looking up its wiki, apparently the critics mostly shat on the movie, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Admittedly a big reason for this is director Robert Wise doing a *lot* of research as to how the Zeppelin looked and sounded. I'd never heard of this movie before I PVR'd it, but the sets looks identical to Hindenberg photos I've seen. Walls are cloth, the gangway is narrow, and you can open the airship's windows. The seventies has a big watershed moment in it for visual effects - the OG Star Wars - and often you can really, really tell where movies were made before Star Wars and after. I was pleasantly surprised, then, by the external FX shots still looking good - more pretty than CGI, you understand, but still good looking. The final disaster sequence is expertly done, and does an excellent job at conveying the lovely hobson's choices people had to make escaping a burning airship. The rest of the movie I was satisfied with; two of the three writers who wrote the screenplay created Columbo, and there is something Colombo-ish about the disaster which we all know is going to happen in the end. George C. Scott is a Luftwaffe (but Nazi-hating) Lt. Colonel who's assigned to fly the Hindenburg and see if he can identify a saboteur aboard. This doesn't really come together - we know somebody is going to be a saboteur, and we know they succeed in some sense, as the plot centers around the existence of an anti-nazi saboteur. Scott is sharing his cabin with a Gestapo security man, and maybe that's the problem: Scott and the Gestapo man have no rules in their investigation except to try and make the Third Reich look good, and are free to arrest and search whoever they like. Scott is, well, George C. Scott, so his investigation is a series of straight lines and blunt questions, so we never really get inside his head, or feel like the mystery is moving. The fact that Scott's character gets co-opted by the saboteur doesn't help. I guess I went away satisfied because in addition to wall-to-wall airship deets, (I mean, my god, you get to see somebody work the ship's telegraph) 1970s hollywood disaster movies suck. I've never seen the Towering Inferno, but all the other ones I've seen are dull as hell, and usually are awful. They made a sequel to the Poseidon Adventure, for gently caress's sake, and the most interesting part I remember of that is that AMC paid consideration to get a Gremlin and a Hornet lashed to the floor/ceiling in the background of a bunch of shots. The Hindenburg at least was coherent and interesting, if a bit dry, so it is definitely a cut above most of them. Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 19:44 on May 13, 2022 |
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I saw the Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure, and Earthquake! (with Sensurround!) in the theater when they came out. They all stunk on ice. The best thing I can say about them: Sensurround (basically the strongest bass set-up imaginable) was startlingly effective the first time it was employed. No so much on aftershocks. Showing Earthquake! and The Towering Inferno as a double feature was called, "Shake 'n' Bake"
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hobbesmaster posted:For international flights to the US that’s actually a TSA regulation. Maybe CATSA copied that? I cannot imagine being on a 737 or the like and hewing to that foolishness. I haven't been on a single aisle with two classes since 2003, and haven't encountered that situation. MrYenko posted:“First class” on a CRJ is a ballsy loving thing to charge money for, ain’t it? And then, to balance the aircraft, they moved two passengers from the rear to first class. They didn't get the perks, but they got the bigger seats and forward lav.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HojaP3TzBOU Learn how to properly serve a first class meal on United.
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Dr_Strangelove posted:I cannot imagine being on a 737 or the like and hewing to that foolishness. I haven't been on a single aisle with two classes since 2003, and haven't encountered that situation. The single-seat rows in a CRJ business class is as tolerable as a CRJ flight gets.
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PT6A posted:The single-seat rows in a CRJ business class is as tolerable as a CRJ flight gets. I wasn't complaining 
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I always liked CRJ first class because that was the only upgrade I ever had any chance of getting as silver/gold on delta and living at a major hub.
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I had problems with the front of a CRJ either. The bar and food blow though.
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Air Show season is starting again soon. Any really big ones to look out for that might be worth using up paid leave for?
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Scam Likely posted:Air Show season is starting again soon. Any really big ones to look out for that might be worth using up paid leave for? It'd help to know where you are geographically. RIAT is the biggie but you have to start planning for it easily a year in advance since it doesn't exactly take place in the most convenient spot and you're not going to find a chain hotel anywhere near it.
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Yo, my medical saga is coming to a satisfying close. You may remember last year that I was in the following situation: I'm living in country A, but wanted to do a LAPL or PPL in country B just over the border, where it's a bit more affordable. However since I have had psychotherapy and used medication in the past, the AME couldn't clear me directly - I needed to see someone to certify that I'm pschologically stable, would have had that translated as well as with some other information, so that the AME could submit my medical to country B's authorities. Still following? Good. Well I've been looking for months and couldn't find any party that would give me a psychological evaluation. Either they didn't do aviation in general, or they were companies that only did B2B and wouldn't take 'retail' clients. There was one psychiatrist who was a pilot herself and she was willing to both do the examination as well as the translation, but then she just ghosted me. Neither my GP nor the AME could tell me where I was supposed to go. I was almost ready to accept that the aviation world was just completely full of crazy and unreliable people. Well, this year, the AME shot me an email asking how that psychological report was going. That prompted me to think a bit, and what with COVID and other world events going on I decided that I want to get it over with and to hell with saving money. I found a very nice and professional flight school just an hour away from home in country A. Albeit more expensive, I figured it was better to have a trusted relationship with a solid company. Without the need for a translated psych eval, I was able to provide a company that could perform the evaluation for me (for the lowly price of about $1700). And now I'm all set: there's an instructor who is very cool and teaches me hard, the psychiatrist told me to await a positive report in my mailbox so my medical will be fine, and I've splurged on a real cool Lightspeed Zulu headset. And I started a ground school that has remote learning. I'm pretty happy with how that's going at the moment
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Chicago/ Aeronautical Insanity crosspost: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rFP2myZ2UGY&feature=share
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So, Canadians, how bad is Flair and Lynx? I'm looking for doing an express same day trip YYC-YVR (for a memorial service) and the discount airlines, a combo of Flair and Lynx actually have the best schedule for me... arriving in the AM and a mid evening departure back. Using them as a glorified city transit bus with only the smallest personal item for under the seat (notebook and single change of clothes), I presume they are suitable for that? I've got an hour or two wiggle room for delays. slidebite fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 14, 2022 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:Yo, my medical saga is coming to a satisfying close. That's awesome! I remember that being really frustrating for you, glad it's working out after all.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That's awesome! I remember that being really frustrating for you, glad it's working out after all. 
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slidebite posted:So, Canadians, how bad is Flair and Lynx? Probably fine. I haven't heard anything particularly bad about them, or really any of the ULCCs beyond "you get what you pay for." For YYC-YVR I assume it would be just fine.
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Remulak posted:Chicago/ Aeronautical Insanity crosspost: I'm not familiar with the livery, so am I watching an amazing emergency medical evacuation or a really reckless private pilot?
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