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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Impermanent posted:

oh yeah follow up question how the gently caress do you target people clicking on people in this game sucks

go into your settings and turn on auto target and set to nearest target.

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S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

CobiWann posted:

Any have any advice or suggestions for playing a WAR in PvP, specifically in CC?

Your chain pull is often your most powerful ability, followed by your stun and your shield/HP recovery. A lot of the time your best play is to pull an opponent away from the group and stun them to set up a near guaranteed kill. At the beginning of the game I am almost always playing chicken with the enemy team to see who I can drag out for us to focus fire.

Also: stay on the crystal as often as you possibly can. That's your home. Stick with it.

Save your LB for when your team is around or it's extremely difficult to capitalize on.

Late in the game, especially if you've died and you're returning to the crystal, it can be extremely valuable to simply yank people off of the crystal rather than rush right in.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

Impermanent posted:

oh yeah follow up question how the gently caress do you target people clicking on people in this game sucks

1) go into your hotkey menu, submenu "Targeting", and look for "target nearest enemy"
2) bind "target nearest enemy" to something very easily accessible, like a mouse button you can mash while you're pressing your other buttons
3) mash it while you play and you'll always have a target you can hit

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Impermanent posted:

oh yeah follow up question how the gently caress do you target people clicking on people in this game sucks

Learn to use target closest enemy and then tab to get to the person you need.

Or just play dragoon where you can just click on someone at half health on the group frames then press jump to teleport to them despite having no idea where they are on the map. I can't stress enough how easy dragoon is and you should play it if you want to climb.

Ugly John
Jul 18, 2009
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sassassin posted:

DPS classes get too complex for me to care to learn. Tank crew 4 life.

This is kind of why I've really enjoyed switching to healer main this expansion. It's a simple 'rotation' combined with knowing that every so often I'm gonna have to hit an extra button or two.

Algid
Oct 10, 2007


Yes, always use target nearest, I've done that since ARR for PvE, it's the optimal way to target things no matter what job you are. Also for small scale pvp the enemy party menu is how you click to target, it was the same for Feast, put it near the center of your screen and click someone with low hp/mp.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


sassassin posted:

DPS classes get too complex for me to care to learn. Tank crew 4 life.

This is why I play SMN.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
I like how Monk is pretty simple now, beyond needing to remember to do a positional at the end of each of your bnb combos. I also like getting full stickers and popping zweefighting for Big Number

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



had a p3s learning group manage to facetank our way thru to enrage on our first pull today! had decent dps output but sadly just couldn't get thru FoF without mass casualties and eventually started flagging.

also realized that i've been doing my positionals backwards since i hosed with my hotbars around 6.1 launch so, uh, that should help at least

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

The Heavensward LP sallies forth to save The Actual Entire Sky. One last hurrah, my fellow Sky Pirates!

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
They've finally got everything figured out for the Housing issues.

On the 15th they'll have some maintenance, and after that everything will display correctly and the suspensions on purchasing and relocating will be lifted.

Everyone will have until 7:59AM PDT (11:59PM JST) on the 26th to finalize their land purchases.

The lottery cycles will begin again at 8:00 AM PDT (12:00AM JST on the 27th) and will return to it's 5 day/4 day rotation.

If you won a plot but received a Gil refund, you'll still be able to get your plot. They also had this to say:

quote:

In patch 6.2 we plan to implement an NPC by which you may voluntarily return the deposit you were accidentally refunded.
As these housing lottery issues have been significant and caused great stress and frustration in many players, we have no intention of performing a data rollback to forcibly rescind any refunded gil. We will make an announcement regarding the voluntary return of housing deposits once the NPC in question is ready to be implemented.

Roluth
Apr 22, 2014

So they've basically given up on getting that money back. I doubt very many people are going to willingly give the money they were supposed to spend after the fact.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


It's probably the best way to do it. If people feel guilty about getting a free house they have a way to return the refund, but they're not obligated to. And at the end of the day it's just MMO money so forcing the issue would gain SE nothing at the cost of further pissing off players.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Also it's basically unenforceable. It's been a while, what if you borrowed money from a friend for the deposit, or you started spending it after you "lost" and got the deposit back and now you don't have however many million you need to pay the deposit. Are you just hosed? Your house is held for ransom until you get the money back? Are you in debt now? It's the only reasonable way to handle it and it's a fairly nice gesture to be like "whoops sorry for the trouble this house is... on the house :v:"

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
I hope they tell us how many people paid the NPC. I'd be curious to know.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Allow anyone to donate to NPC. Have NPC on each server state the name of the player who has donated the most Gil, with no other info (not how much, not who is second). Solve Gil inflation overnight

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

HackensackBackpack posted:

I hope they tell us how many people paid the NPC. I'd be curious to know.

I mean 0% right? What fuckin dork rear end nerd is going to actually give the money back

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Award a title for donating and suddenly participation ramps to 100%.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

SettingSun posted:

Award a title for donating and suddenly participation ramps to 100%.

Meteor Survivor
<The Fuckin' Dork-rear end Nerd>

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Donate x amount for a title.
Donate y amount for another title.
Donate z amount for a Legally Distinct From the 1.0 Vet Tattoo.

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

Thundarr posted:

Donate x amount for a title.
Donate y amount for another title.
Donate z amount for a Legally Distinct From the 1.0 Vet Tattoo.

I honestly expected a minion or something to sweeten the pot

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
If anyone is having trouble locating the refund NPC, you can give me your gil and I will bring it to him for you.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


So either
a) housing plot for free
or
b) exclusive or special reward for paying for the housing plot they were lucky enough to win but had to wait a bit for

seems kind of dumb lol.

Thundarr posted:

It's probably the best way to do it. If people feel guilty about getting a free house they have a way to return the refund, but they're not obligated to. And at the end of the day it's just MMO money so forcing the issue would gain SE nothing at the cost of further pissing off players.
I mean, people don't feel guilty enough to give up the extra houses they were grandfathered into.

Given the nature of XIV housing, I think anyone without a house should maybe feel a little pissed off a bunch of people just got one for free. Imagine being pissed because you had to pay for the thing you won that you were originally planning/supposed to pay for.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
:laffo: "great stress and frustration" are you serious, I'm sure that was a bigger issue for the people who didn't actually win their (for a long time probably the only) chance to win a house, but also didn't get it for free because SE is incompetent.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
So people either get houses for free or get exclusive content for the invonvenience of needing to wait the same length of time as everyone who actually lost for real has to wait to get their second bite at the apple but against a much larger pool of people on a much smaller spate of houses?

No no, that's fair, that's super fair.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I also believe that it unfair I had to pay for housing but these ungrateful Millzoomers get theirs for FREE.

Jesus it is play money. People got unlucky and then lucky. No need to go Full Boomer about it.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 16:05 on May 13, 2022

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

To be clear they did not actually say you get anything for surrendering the money they are unwilling to forcibly take from you. They have shown time and again that they won't do data rollbacks or forcibly take things from players. Bank error in the player's favor indeed.

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

Yeah and as someone said it’s a huuuuge headache to even take that money if they wanted to

e: the “Yeah” was to the point that people are being super aggro about other people having good luck

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

economy is in shambles because people got their house for free and decided to spend that money on a gold mount

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Oxyclean posted:

So either
a) housing plot for free
or
b) exclusive or special reward for paying for the housing plot they were lucky enough to win but had to wait a bit for

seems kind of dumb lol.

I mean, people don't feel guilty enough to give up the extra houses they were grandfathered into.

Given the nature of XIV housing, I think anyone without a house should maybe feel a little pissed off a bunch of people just got one for free. Imagine being pissed because you had to pay for the thing you won that you were originally planning/supposed to pay for.

I'm not really that pissed off that they get it for free because they still won the plot. They're getting the house either way.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


ImpAtom posted:

I also believe that it unfair I had to pay for housing but these ungrateful Millzoomers get theirs for FREE.

Jesus it is play money. People got unlucky and then lucky. No need to go Full Boomer about it.
Because people want their escapist video games to feel fair and fun. Anyone who lost the lottery feels a double loss, and anyone who didn't participate just feels silly they didn't have a shot at a totally free house.

If all houses going forward were free, your notion might be applicable.

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

Oxyclean posted:

Because people want their escapist video games to feel fair and fun. Anyone who lost the lottery feels a double loss, and anyone who didn't participate just feels silly they didn't have a shot at a totally free house.

If all houses going forward were free, your notion might be applicable.

no

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Oxyclean posted:

Because people want their escapist video games to feel fair and fun. Anyone who lost the lottery feels a double loss, and anyone who didn't participate just feels silly they didn't have a shot at a totally free house.

If all houses going forward were free, your notion might be applicable.

I lost a a Lynx on a 97 roll because someone rolled 99. It happens.

It isn't about fairness. SE hosed up. The only other option is to take back gil that might have been spent on other stuff and the last thing we need is fantasy housing debt.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 13, 2022

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007



yes

free houses would be a 100% better way to hand them out if they're going to be rng lottery and basically already have the built in sub tax.

Vitamean
May 31, 2012

how about instead we smooth out this little housing speedbump and get back to our regularly scheduled housing gamba in between casino erp sessions

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


I mean we could talk about third party tools again.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Please stop telling the people who Squenix somehow managed to make lose twice in a single housing run to feel better about losing twice in a single housing run.


This loving sucks and hell yeah I'm gonna be salty about it for a while.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe

SettingSun posted:

To be clear they did not actually say you get anything for surrendering the money they are unwilling to forcibly take from you. They have shown time and again that they won't do data rollbacks or forcibly take things from players. Bank error in the player's favor indeed.
The obvious solution was to just reroll the lottery on affected plots. No one knew they won. There were hundreds and thousands of people who also didn't win and never will, adding some folks who technically, behind the scenes, would have won would have been small fry compared to this shitshow.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Repossess all houses and start again.

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Vitamean
May 31, 2012

Zil posted:

I mean we could talk about third party tools again.

I like the orchestrion plugin

Kurieg posted:

Please stop telling the people who Squenix somehow managed to make lose twice in a single housing run to feel better about losing twice in a single housing run.


This loving sucks and hell yeah I'm gonna be salty about it for a while.

There's always next time!

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