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I think appropriating right wing language and prejudices against trump, calling him a pussy for ducking the draft and a fag for wearing makeup, phony christian and a out of touch costal elite and whatever probably would have been the best strategy to dismantle his strong man image but also its obvious why they didn't do that (the democrats like losing) show photos of him hanging out with hillary, disparaging association with hillary, would have won hillary the presidency basically
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May 14, 2022 18:41
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ikanreed posted:He really was the worst choice in a field of terrible, terrible candidates it depends on what kind of “bad” you think might be worse, but for me maybe only Bloomberg would have been a worse choice. Less of a transparent feeble minded dipshit, but definitely king of the numerous “hey let’s please just openly worship capitalists” candidates.
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May 14, 2022 20:59
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Antonymous posted:I think appropriating right wing language and prejudices against trump, calling him a pussy for ducking the draft and a fag for wearing makeup, phony christian and a out of touch costal elite and whatever probably would have been the best strategy to dismantle his strong man image but also its obvious why they didn't do that (the democrats like losing) but which of their candidates does this stuff not apply to? Kamala, Biden, Sanders are all fake Christian coastal elites, none of them served. I guess Buttigeg did an internship with the marines but being gay automatically makes him a phony Christian to a lot of Christians, even Democrat voters. they probably couldn’t get away with it even if they had the balls, and the hypocrisy charge only carries any weight with Blue No Matter Who voters
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May 14, 2022 21:13
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I would have simply promised the improvement of material conditions, and upon winning the election, used the power granted to the office to improve said material conditions . Easy peasy
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May 14, 2022 21:26
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Justus posted:it depends on what kind of “bad” you think might be worse, but for me maybe only Bloomberg would have been a worse choice. Less of a transparent feeble minded dipshit, but definitely king of the numerous “hey let’s please just openly worship capitalists” candidates. Okay Bloomberg was just a fascist. I glossed that over.
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May 14, 2022 21:29
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Maya Fey posted:wonder how much this cost It was so embarrassing seeing people try to out-trump trump who had no business ever trying. loving sad-rear end elvis impersonators.
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May 14, 2022 21:29
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Poor Donald lmao
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May 14, 2022 21:30
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just call him a pedophile who wants to gently caress his daughter, the only way to gently caress with him on that front is to go nuclear. otherwise stick to your own poo poo
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May 14, 2022 21:42
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nah, pedohunting is an game owned top to bottom by the moralists and it's something that energizes the republican base. It would be laughed off as a nasty joke by the opposition demonstrating their opponent's sickness and just help rally them. Attacking donald is a stupid exercise because the entire effort is premised on the idea that a "win" against him will earn you a defector republican vote because something you said made a republican see trump differently. It's pathetic.
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May 14, 2022 22:19
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El Mero Mero posted:nah, pedohunting is an game owned top to bottom by the moralists and it's something that energizes the republican base. It would be laughed off as a nasty joke by the opposition demonstrating their opponent's sickness and just help rally them. yeah, anyone who is even considering voting for trump is either too stupid to even be convinced of anything (see: Ken Bone) or is absolutely ride or die for him and will dismiss anything said against him of course, the democrats don't want to actually win, so it's better for them to spread the narrative that there's just tons of reasonable republicans ready to vote for democrats who are right wing enough one of the results of the extremely stupid culture war is that voting is just a lifestyle choice, and this includes republican voters. I've spoken to too many people who would be actively harmed by republican administrations who keep voting republican because they "can't imagine voting for a democrat" to think that there's literally anything that can convince them edit: like, the last House election in my hometown (which is pretty drat poor) was a navy vet and prosecutor who openly advocated for m4a for the dems and Madison Cawthorn, who is like if Trump didn't have any money and was somehow even dumber. Cawthorn had an R next to his name so he won. But that won't stop people there from saying THERE OUGHTA BE MORE SOLDIERS IN POLITICS. There's no actual train of logic to it other than "R good, D bad" DoubleDonut has issued a correction as of 23:10 on May 14, 2022 |
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May 14, 2022 23:06
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libs spending months condescendingly explaining that "big dick donald" is actually brilliant because many women don't like it when their partners are too big but you'd know that if you weren't sexist and doing the dreamworks smirk then soyfacing when they lose by 30 points i swear i remember reading that one of hillary's big ideas was getting a guy in a donald duck costume to follow trump around because he was "ducking" releasing his taxes and was only talked out of it when someone reminded her disney was one of her donors and would be pissed
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the deficit is entirely fake and nobody actually cares about it except the stupidest dems and they only care about it because they think 'sensible republicans' and 'socially liberal but fiscally conservative' types (i.e. fake bullshit groups that don't really meaningfully exist) care about it which is how we end up with poo poo like "proudly killing another million americans in order to make the fake number nobody cares about be smaller"
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May 15, 2022 00:53
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indigi posted:but which of their candidates does this stuff not apply to? Kamala, Biden, Sanders are all fake Christian coastal elites, none of them served. I guess Buttigeg did an internship with the marines but being gay automatically makes him a phony Christian to a lot of Christians, even Democrat voters. they probably couldn’t get away with it even if they had the balls, and the hypocrisy charge only carries any weight with Blue No Matter Who voters Bernie is Jewish OP. Also I hate Buttigieg but he is youth pastor as gently caress. Thoguh has issued a correction as of 01:07 on May 15, 2022 |
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May 15, 2022 01:02
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hailthefish posted:the deficit is entirely fake Definitionally production must equal consumption. The only thing deficits mean is rich people stealing from us. The idea that we consumed "too much" because of government spending and must be punished to make number go up is just phenomenally stupid.
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May 15, 2022 01:38
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El Mero Mero posted:nah, pedohunting is an game owned top to bottom by the moralists and it's something that energizes the republican base. It would be laughed off as a nasty joke by the opposition demonstrating their opponent's sickness and just help rally them. the point isn’t to earn Republican voters in that scenario
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May 15, 2022 01:40
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:libs spending months condescendingly explaining that "big dick donald" is actually brilliant because many women don't like it when their partners are too big but you'd know that if you weren't sexist and doing the dreamworks smirk then soyfacing when they lose by 30 points Hacks was a great read
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May 15, 2022 02:04
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:oh my god they really did 6 months of focus groups and consultants for "ultra-maga" lmao. Between this and delporables it's really sad watching Dems try to fight back against Trump's insults
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May 15, 2022 02:14
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hailthefish posted:the deficit is entirely fake and nobody actually cares about it except the stupidest dems and they only care about it because they think 'sensible republicans' and 'socially liberal but fiscally conservative' types (i.e. fake bullshit groups that don't really meaningfully exist) care about it which is how we end up with poo poo like "proudly killing another million americans in order to make the fake number nobody cares about be smaller" there are absolutely tons of dumbshits out there who think the federal government budget is just like a household budget and holding debt means your poor and they don’t want to be part of a poor country, or that the government printing money causes inflation, or that China is going to do a margin call on the us and idk own the government or something
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May 15, 2022 02:34
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indigi posted:but which of their candidates does this stuff not apply to? Kamala, Biden, Sanders are all fake Christian coastal elites, none of them served. I guess Buttigeg did an internship with the marines but being gay automatically makes him a phony Christian to a lot of Christians, even Democrat voters. they probably couldn’t get away with it even if they had the balls, and the hypocrisy charge only carries any weight with Blue No Matter Who voters the goal wouldn’t be to get people to vote for a democrat, it would be to get them to not vote at all
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May 15, 2022 02:43
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hailthefish posted:the deficit is entirely fake and nobody actually cares about it except the stupidest dems and they only care about it because they think 'sensible republicans' and 'socially liberal but fiscally conservative' types (i.e. fake bullshit groups that don't really meaningfully exist) care about it which is how we end up with poo poo like "proudly killing another million americans in order to make the fake number nobody cares about be smaller" if we can't fix the deficit who is going to pay for the grifts in yellow-blue land
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May 15, 2022 02:46
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the democrats care about “looking good” on the deficit which is why they’ll proudly support the balanced budget amendment during the constitutional convention which will get called after the ‘22 or ‘24 elections
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May 15, 2022 02:48
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Jenny Agutter posted:there are absolutely tons of dumbshits out there who think the federal government budget is just like a household budget and holding debt means your poor and they don’t want to be part of a poor country, They don't actually believe this, they pretend to believe it in order to deny money / benefits to people they hate. They don't give a gently caress if we're over-budget by 999 trillion a year if that money is going to the military or cops, but if we're overbudget 1 billion and that money is benefitting inner city kids, they shriek like banshees. Lee Atwater admitted in 1981 that every economic issue the GOP pretends to believe in is just a thin veneer for racism. None of their beliefs are genuine. They aren't "dumb", they are just racist.
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May 15, 2022 03:02
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evilpicard posted:Definitionally production must equal consumption. The only thing deficits mean is rich people stealing from us. With the caveat that if your society is addicted to capitalism and financialization of all value and privatization of debt, to the extent that you take those as givens, extensive, unpredictable, interanualler variation in public debt can hypothetically cause runaway inflation. But you'd have to be an idiot to design your whole economy that way.
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Two years ago, by a series of strange coincidences, I found myself attending a garden party at Westminster Abbey. I was a bit uncomfortable. It’s not that other guests weren’t pleasant and amicable, and Father Graeme, who had organized the party, was nothing if not a gracious and charming host. But I felt more than a little out of place. At one point, Father Graeme intervened, saying that there was someone by a nearby fountain whom I would certainly want to meet. She turned out to be a trim, well-appointed young woman who, he explained, was an attorney—“but more of the activist kind. She works for a foundation that provides legal support for anti-poverty groups in London. You’ll probably have a lot to talk about.” We chatted. She told me about her job. I told her I had been involved for many years with the global justice movement—“anti-globalization movement,” as it was usually called in the media. She was curious: she’d of course read a lot about Seattle, Genoa, the tear gas and street battles, but … well, had we really accomplished anything by all of that? “Actually,” I said, “I think it’s kind of amazing how much we did manage to accomplish in those first couple of years.” “For example?” “Well, for example, we managed to almost completely destroy the IMF.” As it happened, she didn’t actually know what the IMF was, so I offered that the International Monetary Fund basically acted as the world’s debt enforcers—“You might say, the high-finance equivalent of the guys who come to break your legs.” I launched into historical background, explaining how, during the ’70s oil crisis, OPEC countries ended up pouring so much of their newfound riches into Western banks that the banks couldn’t figure out where to invest the money; how Citibank and Chase therefore began sending agents around the world trying to convince Third World dictators and politicians to take out loans (at the time, this was called “go-go banking”); how they started out at extremely low rates of interest that almost immediately skyrocketed to 20 percent or so due to tight U.S. money policies in the early ’80s; how, during the ’80s and ’90s, this led to the Third World debt crisis; how the IMF then stepped in to insist that, in order to obtain refinancing, poor countries would be obliged to abandon price supports on basic foodstuffs, or even policies of keeping strategic food reserves, and abandon free health care and free education; how all of this had led to the collapse of all the most basic supports for some of the poorest and most vulnerable people on earth. I spoke of poverty, of the looting of public resources, the collapse of societies, endemic violence, malnutrition, hopelessness, and broken lives. “But what was your position?” the lawyer asked.” “About the IMF? We wanted to abolish it.” “No, I mean, about the Third World debt.” “Oh, we wanted to abolish that too. The immediate demand was to stop the IMF from imposing structural adjustment policies, which were doing all the direct damage, but we managed to accomplish that surprisingly quickly. The more long-term aim was debt amnesty. Something along the lines of the biblical Jubilee. As far as we were concerned,” I told her, “thirty years of money flowing from the poorest countries to the richest was quite enough.” “But,” she objected, as if this were self-evident, “they’d borrowed the money! Surely one has to pay one’s debts.”
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evilpicard posted:Definitionally production must equal consumption. ah yeah say's law. not like marx went to town destroying this idea and then neoclassical econ also took its shot
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/nancook/status/1524816919664156672?t=2baFiD2Guc0jGNyrR8dPaQ&s=19 Shits going to be means tested to hell if it ever dies come out. Looking forward to my $250 of student debt forgiveness.
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Stereotype posted:the goal wouldn’t be to get people to vote for a democrat, it would be to get them to not vote at all that strategy only works on Democrats though, they’re the ones who decide to take elections off in droves. it’s why Trump won. Republicans vote pretty consistently
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/nancook/status/1524816919664156672?t=2baFiD2Guc0jGNyrR8dPaQ&s=19 the chosen option is going to be performative and completely useless. lmao
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i can't wait for the democrat party to be destroyed in 2022
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Vim Fuego posted:Biden admin cut infant obesity IN HALF!!
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as much as I hate Biden and the Democrats, strategically he shouldn’t do poo poo til mid-late August at earliest, once all the fall semester student loans have cleared. plus it’ll be closer to the election which will make more people vote Dem in theory. I do think he has to do it this year though cause waiting til 2024 hoping it’ll bump his numbers vs Trump will be too late; he could do 20k now and raise it 50k then though for another bite of the apple
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May 15, 2022 18:10
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bi crimes posted:i can't wait for the democrat party to be destroyed in 2022
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indigi posted:as much as I hate Biden and the Democrats, strategically he shouldn’t do poo poo til mid-late August at earliest, once all the fall semester student loans have cleared. plus it’ll be closer to the election which will make more people vote Dem in theory. strategically I think it'd be good if he helped people, I don't think you have to wait until right before elections to help people.
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empty whippet box posted:strategically I think it'd be good if he helped people, I don't think you have to wait until right before elections to help people. that’s not strategic, that’s just normal human behavior which democrats aren’t
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indigi posted:as much as I hate Biden and the Democrats, strategically he shouldn’t do poo poo til mid-late August at earliest, once all the fall semester student loans have cleared. plus it’ll be closer to the election which will make more people vote Dem in theory. the only 'strategic' move they're making is pretending to want to cancel debt so their poll numbers stop dropping so hard. they have absolutely no interest in doing it
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lmao Joe riled the sleeping giant https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1525309091970699265?s=20 https://twitter.com/JeffBezos/status/1525846743278944256?s=20
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Inflation is awesome for debtors though
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