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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Yeah. I'm less concerned with clothes beam or wishes than with one of my favorite bits of stupid fun media going Blood and Soil. That was the main series and their name was Chi-Chi
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I gotta say, I expect so little from this manga and it still manages to find ways to disappoint me
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May 14, 2022 00:41
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hatty posted:That was the main series and their name was Chi-Chi Dohoho. But no, yeah. They did a Dragonball AF fan manga/doujin before all this. Villain sperm jacks Goku.
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May 14, 2022 00:45
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it was west supreme kai and she used the goku sperm to impregnate herself and give birth to the ultimate evil goku
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May 14, 2022 00:47
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If Toyo was a real DB fan then Xicor would have ended up with amazing potential he can do nothing with like all of Goku’s kids
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May 14, 2022 01:03
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Zamasu is just canon xicor
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May 14, 2022 01:16
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How do you even pronounce that name, what foodstuff is it even a pun of
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May 14, 2022 01:18
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Missed chance to call him Xanthum, though I guess that’d work better for a Majin Also if Toyo wasn’t a coward, then the West Supreme would have done the Zamasu and taken over Goku’s body herself
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Half of Dracula posted:Zamasu is just canon xicor Well yeah, the Goku Black arc was essentially Toyotaro getting to canonize his fanfic, to the point that the manga version IIRC has panels that are traced or at least replicated from said doujin. Thankfully the anime team took that idea and made something excellent out of it, because the manga version is, as usual, way worse.
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May 14, 2022 02:02
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Like I was cool with most of the newer Bardock stuff but this new stuff is like really uncomfortable hopefully more pages make it not as apologist or show the guy to be wrong. Like we have Trunks, Goten,Bulla ,Pan and Gohan as the future of the Saiyans. We have actual alive good Saiyans we don't have to excuse the actions of a group of long dead jerks for Pride reasons.
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hatty posted:That was the main series and their name was Chi-Chi No they're talking about the west supreme kai who is also freeza's mom IIRC, who basically daterapes Goku with roofied food and thats why Goku took forever to get back to Earth after namek.
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May 14, 2022 03:33
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https://dbaf.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_AF
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May 14, 2022 03:37
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Fanfics don't have editor's to go that's dumb as hell.
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SirKibbles posted:Like I was cool with most of the newer Bardock stuff but this new stuff is like really uncomfortable hopefully more pages make it not as apologist or show the guy to be wrong. The best Saiyan pride moment was when Vegeta found out Trunks could go super and wanted to find out if he was stronger then Goten and when Trunks said only a little bit Vegeta goes "only a little bit we are gonna fix that"
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This is certainly a very cursed piece of fanfiction.
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socialsecurity posted:The best Saiyan pride moment was when Vegeta found out Trunks could go super and wanted to find out if he was stronger then Goten and when Trunks said only a little bit Vegeta goes "only a little bit we are gonna fix that" "ONLY A LITTLE?! COME WITH ME TO THE GRAVITY CHAMBER, BOY, I WILL NOT HAVE A PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS BE ONLY 'A LITTLE BIT' STRONGER THAN KAKAROT'S SPAWN!"
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SirKibbles posted:Like I was cool with most of the newer Bardock stuff but this new stuff is like really uncomfortable hopefully more pages make it not as apologist or show the guy to be wrong. Exactly! And its so weird, too, because it isn't like examining the failings of the Saiyans was a character flaw of Vegeta's before. If anything, he thought they were weak and beneath him. Did they introduce this new dynamic to his character just to call it a flaw and say he needed to get past it? And it hits different when you remember Vegeta was a part of this machine, too. Goku'd be one thing, or the Saiyan kids. They had nothing to do with any of it, so if they wanted to foster a new Saiyan spirit it'd at least have a degree of separation from what the Saiyans had done before. But Vegeta? Dude should have the least claim to getting to forget about the past. It isn't even like we need Vegeta to do a deep cultural meditation about the nature of the Saiyan regime, because that really wouldn't fit Dragon Ball. But you can't just introduce the sentiment and then say "actually gently caress that, you're fine," because now it's going to be stuck in the audience's minds instead of getting handwaved like it's always been.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:it was west supreme kai and she used the goku sperm to impregnate herself and give birth to the ultimate evil goku What the ACTUAL gently caress
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SirKibbles posted:Fanfics don't have editor's to go that's dumb as hell. Judging from the past few chapters, neither does the official either! 
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There’s an outside chance we’ll see Vegeta eradicate the scheming, greedy Heeters with his superior Saiyan Power
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Momomo posted:There was a whole gag with one of the universe 6 Namekians regrowing his arm And his glove, so it really seems more like a Namekian thing than a Piccolo thing. It was even better, one of them regrew his arm, and his partner, standing next to him, just flicks his wrist to point at his buddy's ungloved regrown hand and really coolly and makes a new one without moving otherwise or the two of them breaking eye contact with Gohan and Piccolo.  Definitely seems like a Namekian technique in general.
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Some Numbers posted:The point of the first Vegeta/Goku fight was that hard work could overcome genetic superiority. There was also a healthy dose of "relying on others makes you way stronger than standing alone", which was a big theme of early DBZ in the Raditz and Saiyan fights that kinda slowly went out the window and finally died off about the time Goku hit Namek(beyond occasional "someone gets mad and powers up for a 1v1 fight because a friend/loved one got hurt or died" bits). It pokes its head back in a little bit with stuff like people distracting Cell during the final kamehameha duel and the fusion stuff but there isn't much in the way of actual team fights until the ToP. Kanos fucked around with this message at 18:21 on May 14, 2022 |
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May 14, 2022 17:56
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Well, looks like I’m not missing out on much by not reading the manga.
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May 14, 2022 18:03
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Even the instance with Cell was just anime filler. In the manga, Vegeta is the only one to throw a blast and it stuns Cell because it hits him in the face.
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Vegeta will surpass Ultra Ego by unlocking Ultra Racism to win the day E: Goku will counter this by achieving the only form that's ever mattered, Ultra Bardock. Everything is about Bardock.
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projecthalaxy posted:Vegeta will surpass Ultra Ego by unlocking Ultra Racism New thread title please
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projecthalaxy posted:Vegeta will surpass Ultra Ego by unlocking Ultra Racism to win the day Who would have thought this video wouldn't be a joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAT77CBEjk
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Kanos posted:There was also a healthy dose of "relying on others makes you way stronger than standing alone", which was a big theme of early DBZ in the Raditz and Saiyan fights that kinda slowly went out the window and finally died off about the time Goku hit Namek(beyond occasional "someone gets mad and powers up for a 1v1 fight because a friend/loved one got hurt or died" bits). I'm not really sure that's accurate. The Buu saga was full of Team fights and it was in almost every situation where someone tried to go at it alone that their got their poo poo wrecked. The big final battles is Goku, Vegeta, Mr. Buu and frigging Mr. Satan all contributing to a victory by working together.
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"You're not dealing with the average Saiyan Racist anymore, Freeza..."
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"Freeza, you may have hated us. But that's just because we ARE PERFECT!"
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Freeza, antiracist activist.
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Vegeta's eyebrows were a foreshadowing to his skinhead.
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iamsosmrt posted:Vegeta's eyebrows were a foreshadowing to his skinhead. Vegeta Calvo (Ultra Racista)
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Darth TNT posted:"Freeza, you may have hated us. But that's just because we ARE PERFECT!" So that's where Cell gets it from
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not really sure that's accurate. Also for whatever it's worth, Super has a decent amount of team fights, including the finale, AND a pair of villains who were explicitly punching above their weight because of their good teamwork (I mean it was two of the same guy but still,) AND implies that Vegeta is finally caught up with Goku because he found someone to learn from instead of just doing the gravity chamber.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm not really sure that's accurate. My mind is coming up blank on anything coming close to a team fight in Buu saga, like in the Saiyan arc; maybe the volleyball attack?? Even the final confrontation is a series of Goku/Vegeta/Buu fights Buu 1v1s.
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Most of Vegeta's biggest character moments in Z involved learning how to put his pride aside - both his pride as a Saiyan warrior and his personal pride as Prince Vegeta the elite. By the very end of Z, Vegeta had learned to fight for others rather than for himself, fighting to protect his family rather than just fighting to be the strongest. It seems like the longer Super runs, the more Vegeta forgets about that.
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