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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

If you ask a super scientist to build a bionic eye they'll inevitably end up building a walking eye instead. Who could resist the allure of the walking eye?

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tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe
That's why the promises of the jet age never came to realization. You can't have a world of flying cars and all that other good stuff when all of the superscientists who could make it happen are being constantly arched by antagonists.

Honestly, that might actually be a good thing for humanity, and if that's how the villains see it (at least on some level), then their aversion to the pejorative "bad guy" makes a lot more sense. They know, even if the "good guys" don't, that their dastardly deeds have an objectively positive net impact on the world.

Also, can we just appreciate how VB basically turned "arch" into a verb so seamlessly? And how much work we, the fans, have to do to push "superscientist" further into the lexicon?

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Mantis42 posted:

If you ask a super scientist to build a bionic eye they'll inevitably end up building a walking eye instead. Who could resist the allure of the walking eye?

It's a walking eye!

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Davros1 posted:

It's a walking eye!
Reconnaissance applications!

e: aww that scene isn't on youtube, only the one where rusty washes the eye

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 15:36 on May 5, 2022

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Davros1 posted:

It's a walking eye!

Just push harder Billy! HELPeR will fit in there I'm sure of it!

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Seems a lot of super-scientists end up like that, dying ignobly (or getting turbomurdered by villains) with their achievements forgotten and left to rot.

Or maybe they didn't accept the unicorn in captivity bargain......

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

bull3964 posted:

Or maybe they didn't accept the unicorn in captivity bargain......

That too. The OSI being connected to some ridiculous conspiracy Illuminati we never see makes a lot of sense with their role as brutal enforcers of the status quo.

Also comes to mind that a LOT about the OSI and its flagship (like the Nozzle) makes sense as basically a clearing house of random mad science poo poo they commissioned, bought or otherwise acquired.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



SHED didnt get enough exploration imo.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
There's exactly one super scientist who ever made a significant change to everyday life for the masses. And it's JJ. And it's not superscience devices but the VBverse version of the iPhone and iPad.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Really though, was JJ a super scientist?

I mean, yeah, Gargantua 2, but it was a hotel/casino.

Everything else was consumer electronics. Anything super science-like died in the basement of the Venture tower and archived.

He had the chops to be a super scientist, but he was wholly uninterested in actually doing it.

JJ was a capitalist and his biggest vanity project was a floating vacation spot for the rich and influential.

I bet he didn't even visit Enzo ONCE when he was in NY.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

He had a giant combinable robot homie

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
JJ: I've got most of them complete. I think there are two left. Yeah.The sound that kills and a teleporter. Dibs on the killing sound.
Rusty: Dibs? Screw you! Those are my contracts!
JJ: They were addressed to Dr. Venture, and since you've been gone I've received two doctorates. So I'm a Dr. Venture, too.
Rusty: I was only gone a month.
JJ: You can have the teleporter.
Rusty: Fine. I'll clean up your mess.
JJ: Great! I'm half done with it. It's in the manufacturing wing. I put your staff on the job.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Honestly once he got the murder attempt out of his system JJ ended up amazingly well adjusted for someone who spent the first forty something years of his existence as a tumor

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


uber_stoat posted:

JJ: I've got most of them complete. I think there are two left. Yeah.The sound that kills and a teleporter. Dibs on the killing sound.
Rusty: Dibs? Screw you! Those are my contracts!
JJ: They were addressed to Dr. Venture, and since you've been gone I've received two doctorates. So I'm a Dr. Venture, too.
Rusty: I was only gone a month.
JJ: You can have the teleporter.
Rusty: Fine. I'll clean up your mess.
JJ: Great! I'm half done with it. It's in the manufacturing wing. I put your staff on the job.

I have a staff?

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



I liked him when he died :emo:

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


I really did not like JJ my first few times through the show. He's grown on me as I've met people like that now.

X_Toad
Apr 2, 2011

bull3964 posted:

Really though, was JJ a super scientist?

I mean, yeah, Gargantua 2, but it was a hotel/casino.

Everything else was consumer electronics. Anything super science-like died in the basement of the Venture tower and archived.

He had the chops to be a super scientist, but he was wholly uninterested in actually doing it.

JJ was a capitalist and his biggest vanity project was a floating vacation spot for the rich and influential.

I bet he didn't even visit Enzo ONCE when he was in NY.
His biggest achievement as a super-scientist was Gargantua-2, and that was basically his complex vis-à-vis never getting to know Jonas acting up.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



S1 Jonas sucks as a character but after that his inflections are great. If I say Go Team Venture out loud it’s exactly how he says it walking the lady out of spider skull island after she mentions her bi-kini

And yeah he’s very much more obsessed with the commercial success of Jonas Sr compared to Rusty trying to live up to the wacky being a huge piece of poo poo aspects.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

TK-42-1 posted:

S1 Jonas sucks as a character but after that his inflections are great. If I say Go Team Venture out loud it’s exactly how he says it walking the lady out of spider skull island after she mentions her bi-kini

And yeah he’s very much more obsessed with the commercial success of Jonas Sr compared to Rusty trying to live up to the wacky being a huge piece of poo poo aspects.

That’s because he had no idea at all what a piece of poo poo Jonas was

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I wonder if the successful Rusty Venture had a JJ.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

uber_stoat posted:

JJ: I've got most of them complete. I think there are two left. Yeah.The sound that kills and a teleporter. Dibs on the killing sound.
Rusty: Dibs? Screw you! Those are my contracts!
JJ: They were addressed to Dr. Venture, and since you've been gone I've received two doctorates. So I'm a Dr. Venture, too.
Rusty: I was only gone a month.
JJ: You can have the teleporter.
Rusty: Fine. I'll clean up your mess.
JJ: Great! I'm half done with it. It's in the manufacturing wing. I put your staff on the job.

Oh huh, I have never realized the teleporter in season 7 is a callback to that. That’s fun.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

drrockso20 posted:

Honestly once he got the murder attempt out of his system JJ ended up amazingly well adjusted for someone who spent the first forty something years of his existence as a tumor

Beats being raised by Jonas. I do like how they had fun with the idea of someone who doesn't know the super-scientist game, which Rusty for all his many flaws understands all too well.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

JJ was just the right blend of being arrogant and being actually a good guy to make him infuriating to his brother(s).

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
everyone with red hair is a venture, so we still have at least one thing to learn about Molotov.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

CoolCab posted:

everyone with red hair is a venture, so we still have at least one thing to learn about Molotov.

It's well-known that Jonas pretty much screwed anything with a pulse, so...

blossommirage
Nov 7, 2012

BIG HEADLINE posted:

It's well-known that Jonas pretty much screwed anything with a pulse, so...

To be fair, it was in the name of science.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
My science is very potent.

Manwithastick
Jul 26, 2010

My wife was watching a reunion of Sabrina the teenage witch today and I sat there trying work out if Salem was CGI or a poopet ! Thanks venture bros!

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Hope you had your VCR handy

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That too. The OSI being connected to some ridiculous conspiracy Illuminati we never see makes a lot of sense with their role as brutal enforcers of the status quo.

Also comes to mind that a LOT about the OSI and its flagship (like the Nozzle) makes sense as basically a clearing house of random mad science poo poo they commissioned, bought or otherwise acquired.
I'm pretty sure they just used a machine to convince Dr. Venture there was an Illuminati. They never appear outside that.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
And it's so in character Rusty would think something that stupid. I just love after all that back and forth the teleporter was used to transport the Guild to the loving HQ.

That and trying to kidnap Brock. Which went poorly.

Shindragon fucked around with this message at 20:55 on May 15, 2022

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



I love how excited Brock is to gently caress with some blackouts but then eventually gets bored again.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

Shindragon posted:

And it's so in character Rusty would think something that stupid. I just love after all that back and forth the teleporter was used to transport the Guild to the loving HQ.

That and trying to kidnap Brock. Which went poorly.

I don't think they were trying to kidnap Brock, just keep him busy while they used Rusty in their level 10 ritual.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


They were literally calculating how many henchmen they had to throw away on Brock so they could use Doc for the whole ritual.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Ah ok I see my confusion. They said nobody leaves until Samson is secured.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Yeah the fact that Dr Venture personally knows a bunch of people in the Illuminati was a clue that it was fake. There's literally no reason for Dr. Mrs. The Monarch to be there, but OSI knows that she's his type. And one of the silhouettes is just the Mexican university dean that he met in season 1 lol

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 23:43 on May 15, 2022

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

It would be great if they did a one night premiere of the movie in a theater like they did for season 5. That was a cool experience.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


I like to think that it was both. Does the sex dungeon exist? No. Are all those people that turn up in there because of invention that the government wants to surpress getting a VR BJ? You bet.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean more the frequent allusions that OSI characters made to the Secret President and Hunter Gathers mentioning the Second American Revolution- 'the invisible one!' and all. What with being a universe where genre fiction, especially the cheesy pulp, is mostly true, makes sense that there's a bunch of airport thriller poo poo going on in the background that justifies how vague and seemingly unaccountable the OSI is.

Rusty getting invited to the Illuminati doing a bunch of Eyes Wide Shut stuff is obviously playing to his ego and worldview but he's probably not entirely wrong. Especially since it comes down to presenting him with the options available to him- play along with the status quo or get quietly brutally murdered.

TK-42-1 posted:

I love how excited Brock is to gently caress with some blackouts but then eventually gets bored again.

So bored he starts using a sword. He's basically a slasher movie villain.

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limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

Brock was always a slasher movie villian. First episode he gets hit with a truck and buried alive but comes back to deliver one of the greatest lines in the series before brutally killing a poo poo load of henchman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdgD8OP04RE

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