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bird with big dick posted:How much sales tax you pay shouldn't be some big mystery. I guess I need to clarify my post isn't about dealing, its about sticking to your budget in the face of people who's job it is to make sure you don't. There's a lot more work to deal which includes brushing up on everything that could ever be a line item and how you should attack it to hit the rate you have previously researched in the market and I'm stressed out just typing this
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Probably the biggest thing to remember is that car salespeople aren't human (their sales managers even less so) so you do not need to treat them with respect. If they insult you, either directly or in negotiation, walk out. They will either chase after you or not, and there are a million other sales douches you can buy a car from, even if they're not in the same city.
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May 16, 2022 15:00
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:They will typically charge you for this, but they will do it for you. I guess it's different in every state but I'm pretty sure in NY, they're required to and it's just the same cost as it would be at the DMV. You can't take the car without plates and a registration.
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May 16, 2022 15:09
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It does vary by state, in NC they were going to charge me a markup so I did it myself. Michigan I believe was as you described, and it's been so long since I bought a car from a dealership in the Common Weal that I don't remember.
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May 16, 2022 15:13
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This is why I liked buying my Tacoma over text messages. I offered msrp, they sent the contract (fixed a couple errors such as a dropped rebate so go over it with careful eyes but that was as much as a second text saying “hey you dropped the rebate” and “oops let me fix that” (lol). The biggest benefit I guess is you have nobody hovering over you. Completely avoided the hours of dealership experience and simply dropped off a check and picked up the keys. Of course everything is always easier if you don’t try to negotiate away their dealer fees which in my case amounted to $399. Plate fee was the same as the dmv charges for it. ethanol fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 16, 2022 |
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May 16, 2022 15:34
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i bought a car over text/phone recently also and the first guy was hilarious, they wouldn't let me pay with a check from my credit union because it "wasn't in their system" (???? read: needed to write up a loan to hit their quota) and sent me a picture of two sheets of paper- one had the monthly payment of 48/60/72 month loans with extended warranty bullshit, and the second had the same without the warranty, except in the picture they had overlapped the first paper to cover the last column of the second so i couldn't see the 72 month without warranty then circled the monthly payment of the 72 with warranty as the "lowest payment and best deal" second place i called had the same car in a trim level higher for less money and under msrp, asked for their out the door price and how much fees were and they immediately went "yea it'll be this much" and i replied "sweet i have cash" and they drove the car 100 miles to me the next day without ever seeing me in person lol it's kind of sad people still get roped into stuff like that with so much information available to arm yourself with beforehand on the internet these days. thought that first scam was a neat trick though
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May 16, 2022 17:40
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KillHour posted:I guess it's different in every state but I'm pretty sure in NY, they're required to and it's just the same cost as it would be at the DMV. You can't take the car without plates and a registration. They'll try to charge you a service fee/more for it (or they did when I last bought a car from a dealership), fwiw. You can check online to see the actual cost and iirc it was like $57 and they tried to charge $250 for it.
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May 16, 2022 18:02
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builds character posted:They'll try to charge you a service fee/more for it (or they did when I last bought a car from a dealership), fwiw. You can check online to see the actual cost and iirc it was like $57 and they tried to charge $250 for it. That's not legal in NY. In NY, the maximum dealer / documentation fee is $175 (and was $75 before it was increased 2 years ago), and I think they're allowed to charge a $5 plate mounting fee.
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May 16, 2022 18:42
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I am supremely annoyed that I live in a front and back plate required state but they only gave me a temporary plate for the back and there is no place to mount a front plate. What am I supposed to do, drill holes myself?
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May 16, 2022 18:49
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Just drive without one :P
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May 16, 2022 19:04
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I think if I were to be honest I’m having a bit of buyer’s remorse. Traded in my juke for an impreza and it has the space we need it’s just…so boring. Some day I will buy a fun car again, maybe when the kid goes off to college.
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May 16, 2022 19:10
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KillHour posted:That's not legal in NY. In NY, the maximum dealer / documentation fee is $175 (and was $75 before it was increased 2 years ago), and I think they're allowed to charge a $5 plate mounting fee. Interesting. It seemed ridiculous to me so I googled it sitting at the desk with them and they took it down to actual but they definitely tried to tack it on.
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remigious posted:I am supremely annoyed that I live in a front and back plate required state but they only gave me a temporary plate for the back and there is no place to mount a front plate. What am I supposed to do, drill holes myself? If you’re in California you can vinyl wrap your front license plate now.
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May 16, 2022 19:44
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in a well actually posted:If you’re in California you can vinyl wrap your front license plate now. What does this mean I know what vinyl wrapping is, but not in this context
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May 16, 2022 20:02
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Hadlock posted:What does this mean https://licenseplatewrap.com/
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Yup: It's still inferior to rear-plate-only states but that's a big improvement from having to wreck the front end of most modern vehicles.
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May 16, 2022 20:13
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God dammit I paid a dealer $100 to install a front plate for my texas-origin Tiguan two months ago. If I'd known I could just get a sticker I'd have done that! Also to answer OPs question there's both OEM and aftermarket front plate mounting kits, a dealer typically just drills right into the bumper which you can do yourself but make drat sure you're not potentially tapping into front sensors or wires or whatever if you do; but if you want a non-destructive/through-the-grill or tow hook mounting option, there's lots of aftermarket ones too.
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May 16, 2022 20:44
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I need to remember to do this, we're planning an interstate trip soon and there's no way that fining tourists for "no front license" isn't some sort of money making mill for small towns.
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May 16, 2022 20:57
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Leperflesh posted:God dammit I paid a dealer $100 to install a front plate for my texas-origin Tiguan two months ago. If I'd known I could just get a sticker I'd have done that! Thanks for this  I’ll look into getting a mounting kit myself, gently caress paying the dealer more money!
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May 16, 2022 20:59
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No included front license plate mounting def sounds like a 7 series thing Pretty sure all Toyotas come with that. More reason to get a Prius
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May 16, 2022 21:29
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ethanol posted:No included front license plate mounting def sounds like a 7 series thing You can get away with an alarming amount of stuff in a freshly waxed late model 7 series
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dpkg chopra posted:I need to remember to do this, we're planning an interstate trip soon and there's no way that fining tourists for "no front license" isn't some sort of money making mill for small towns. Are you in a state that actually requires front plates? Because not all do and I cannot fathom even the pettiest of small towns trying to pull that poo poo. Arizona doesn't even issue two plates anymore even if you do vanity/custom tags, you just get one.
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The unstoppable force of the plates costing the same registration fee whether you get one or two meeting the immovable object of being able to pull people over at will. I've not heard of out of staters getting pulled over for lack of front plates in states that need them in a while FWIW.
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May 16, 2022 23:39
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IOwnCalculus posted:Are you in a state that actually requires front plates? Because not all do and I cannot fathom even the pettiest of small towns trying to pull that poo poo. Arizona doesn't even issue two plates anymore even if you do vanity/custom tags, you just get one. No, my state doesn't require front plates, but I understand that it's not a valid excuse once you cross over to a state that does.
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dpkg chopra posted:No, my state doesn't require front plates, but I understand that it's not a valid excuse once you cross over to a state that does. This is incorrect. Your car must conform to the laws of the state in which it is registered, not the one it is physically driving through.
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KillHour posted:This is incorrect. Your car must conform to the laws of the state in which it is registered, not the one it is physically driving through. Are you telling me some random Quora answer I read didn't have correct information? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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KillHour posted:This is incorrect. Your car must conform to the laws of the state in which it is registered, not the one it is physically driving through. Somehow I feel as if citing actual federal law at the small town cops that pulled you over just to gently caress with you will have about the same effect as those dudes that cite made-up sovereign citizen maritime law at actual cops.
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litany of gulps posted:Somehow I feel as if citing actual federal law at the small town cops that pulled you over just to gently caress with you will have about the same effect as those dudes that cite made-up sovereign citizen maritime law at actual cops. Yes, because you or a lawyer have to appear there to appeal. So the further away your state is the more likely this is to happen in podunk nowhere because you're more likely to just pay the fine. I don't know how common this is anymore, but it was definitely a thing 15+ years ago before you could just internet yourself up a local traffic attorney to represent you and get it thrown out without having to appear in person. It was all very very obviously calculated, along with the other bullshit citations they would write.
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My dad bought a small hunting property out in rural bumfuck Texas and the cops there used to pull him over for stupid bullshit all the loving time, with one of them flat out saying that he was getting pulled over for poo poo because he was from out of town. They apologized and stopped doing it after he showed one of them a property tax statement showing that he owned land out there. This was within the last 5 years or so.
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Khizan posted:My dad bought a small hunting property out in rural bumfuck Texas and the cops there used to pull him over for stupid bullshit all the loving time, with one of them flat out saying that he was getting pulled over for poo poo because he was from out of town. They apologized and stopped doing it after he showed one of them a property tax statement showing that he owned land out there. This was within the last 5 years or so. I'd be petty enough to show up to a town meeting and ask why cops are picking on local property owners. Not that it should matter if you own property there, but it's a good way to put the sheriff in an uncomfortable position. Motronic posted:I don't know how common this is anymore, but it was definitely a thing 15+ years ago before you could just internet yourself up a local traffic attorney to represent you and get it thrown out without having to appear in person. Yeah, this is pretty much what you would have to do if it happened.
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ethanol posted:No included front license plate mounting def sounds like a 7 series thing Haha jokes on you there are literally none available right now. 
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So uh this is happening in my state. I find this out literally an hour after I schedule for Carvana to buy my car and pick up on Friday. Now I'm wondering if the physical check I asked for them to give me will even go through. This wouldn't be that bad but I'm literally in the middle of trying to buy another car from another state.  I'm wondering if I should cancel the appointment and try to sell the car myself.
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Neo_Crimson posted:So uh this is happening in my state. I find this out literally an hour after I schedule for Carvana to buy my car and pick up on Friday. Now I'm wondering if the physical check I asked for them to give me will even go through. This wouldn't be that bad but I'm literally in the middle of trying to buy another car from another state. Nothing in there makes me think you won't be able to cash their check.
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builds character posted:Nothing in there makes me think you won't be able to cash their check. Hurry up and do it before they declare bankruptcy  If their check bounces, you will get your car back and they will be royally hosed once you file a report with the police
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I just had the car I bought from Carvana delivered yesterday (a 2016 Mazda3 for a usurious 20k) so this news makes me anxious. I guess I'm praying they actually deliver me my title. The experience was ok, but I wouldn't do it again, even if it all goes smoothly. I think there's too much to buying a car in actually getting to see and be in it before the pressure of paperwork comes into it.
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SettingSun posted:(a 2016 Mazda3 for a usurious 20k) I almost spit my drink out. Good lord.
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SettingSun posted:I just had the car I bought from Carvana delivered yesterday (a 2016 Mazda3 for a usurious 20k) so this news makes me anxious. I guess I'm praying they actually deliver me my title. The experience was ok, but I wouldn't do it again, even if it all goes smoothly. I think there's too much to buying a car in actually getting to see and be in it before the pressure of paperwork comes into it. I worked for Carvana for a couple of months in 2021. Probably the only job I've had where I actually dreaded going to work in the morning.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I worked for Carvana for a couple of months in 2021. Probably the only job I've had where I actually dreaded going to work in the morning. Care for any storytime on what that experience was like?
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Oh yeah, you don't have to convince me that I paid a king's ransom for the experience. Car is in really good condition with great mileage for its age at least. I still have a week to change my mind and I still might.
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Internet Explorer posted:I almost spit my drink out. Good lord. God drat. I paid less than 20k out the door for a new one. Lowest trim model but still.
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