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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Being against those kinds of laws seems extremely reasonable to me. But again - his solution was to be against all bicycle infrastructure. He literally believed that separated bike paths were more dangerous than riding in traffic.
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mystes posted:Literally he explains the exact type of law he is opposed to in Effective Cycling: Wow, California sounds like a toilet.
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mystes posted:Literally he explains the exact type of law he is opposed to in Effective Cycling: lol who hurt that guy, a bunch of longboarders must've taunted the poo poo out of him
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Weembles posted:But again - his solution was to be against all bicycle infrastructure. He literally believed that separated bike paths were more dangerous than riding in traffic. What about being forced to make a left turn from a far-right bike way? Seems extremely unsafe to me. mystes posted:Literally he explains the exact type of law he is opposed to in Effective Cycling: Hmm. I admit I don't know much about the specifics of the public sentiment to biking in California at the time, but I do know that California was and is extremely car-brained, so I could see them trying to functionally ban cycling under the guise of safety without actually making bikes illegal and that is what I think would be reasonable to be against. I can concede that Forrester actually was the prototypical entitled bike enthusiast that car people project upon every biker they see.
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He was literally just a recreational cyclist who wanted to ride road bikes fast and since that's all he cared about, he was happy to sabotage bike infrastructure as long as he could prevent any law that could possibly force him to ride bike paths. Like even if the concerns were real he did it in absolutely the worst way possible and everyone probably would have been better off if he wasn't around to do it, because the best thing for cyclists rights isn't guaranteeing the right to bike on highways or something, it's having lots of people riding bikes who are constantly demanding that real bike infrastructure be created. The other galling thing is that Davis was the first place in california that started building bike paths in the 60s, and even then they were specifically looking at what the Netherlands was doing. Even though Forester pretended to care about safety and pulled out some made up statistics about bike paths being unsafe, he refused to look at what other countries including the Netherlands were doing for literally his entire life. If he really cared about improving bike safety, he easily could have looked at what was working in other countries at any time, but even though he lived a long time he completely refused. I don't think there's any explanation except that he only cared about being able to ride bikes at high speeds on the road and realized that making things genuinely safe for everyone to bike like in the Netherlands might actually make that harder, so he was happier to create a situation where almost nobody bikes because it's stupidly dangerous. The correct approach isn't guaranteeing that cyclists can theoretically ride on any road (even though it's unsafe), it's to separate bikes and cars while simultaneously ensuring that bikes have efficient routes to get around everywhere, like in the netherlands, and that's literally the opposite of what John Forester wanted. mystes has issued a correction as of 06:00 on May 14, 2022 |
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mystes posted:The other galling thing is that Davis was the first place in california that started building bike paths in the 60s, and even then they were specifically looking at what the Netherlands was doing. Even though Forester pretended to care about safety and pulled out some made up statistics about bike paths being unsafe, he refused to look at what other countries including the Netherlands were doing for literally his entire life. He did look at what the Netherlands was doing. Sort of. He used some tortured statistics to compare injury statistics between the wide demographics that biked in the Netherlands (which included children and the elderly) with injury statistics in the very narrow cycling community he knew (which was mostly young athletes) and conclude that dutch style bike paths were more dangerous than riding in traffic. I can't stress enough - he knew exactly what the options were. He just rejected all of them in favor of imposing the sort of riding he enjoyed onto everyone.
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Clark Nova posted:I've never felt more like I'm living in a cyberpunk dystopia than the time I spotted a massive fat man in a motorcycle helmet riding one of those electric unicycle things on a bike path, holding completely still and hunched forward in the posture of a hanged corpse, gliding eerily along gimmie a wave next time
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Weembles posted:Another day, another Tesla Kool-Aid-manning into a building: Gotta love the thought process on this rear end in a top hat. "My car wont slow down, better leave the only space it might be safe to go this fast!" I know he's lying and was probably just asleep or some poo poo but drat
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Lol at the museums tab Weembles posted:Every podcast is a slog to someone. I hope conan o brien never finds a friend Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Wow, California sounds like a toilet. It's a democratic stronghold, op Milo and POTUS has issued a correction as of 12:07 on May 14, 2022 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:If true it's just another reason nobody is in any hurry to change things They gentrified Kowloon walled city?
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War and Pieces posted:They gentrified Kowloon walled city? Did you quote the right thing lol
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War and Pieces posted:They gentrified Kowloon walled city? The Walled City was torn down decades ago.
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Suplex Liberace posted:no they smashed it and put a park there iirc they unpaved paradise and put up a park in the lot
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Wonder how much torque you'd need on a few ebikes to draw and quarter a billionaire
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PittTheElder posted:
it's not but america has very bad terminal case of the carbrain. unfortunately, there is no treatment
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Imagine that every drive is 2-3 times as long and you also have to pay for health insurance
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PittTheElder posted:
if you convert USD to CAD it's 2.12/L which is basically what it is here in montréal
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Wonder how much torque you'd need on a few ebikes to draw and quarter a billionaire Too much effort https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1520216455383552001
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ArmZ posted:any use case for an ebike is better served by either a real bike or a motorcycle you seem to be suffering from carbrain my friend
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:you seem to be suffering from carbrain my friend no car mentioned in my post ebike brain is real
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Petanque posted:if you convert USD to CAD it's 2.12/L which is basically what it is here in montréal See I thought about including that conversion, but keep in mind that Americans are being paid in USD, and their median household income is basically identical to ours (with California's being much higher). There's probably more inequality at play which is an issue of course, but that's still basically Alberta pricing, not civilized place pricing.
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This is rad. But I usually look like a schlub when I bike, so will probably be more like this. Turkmenistan president shooting from bicycle.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAJ5lXW6DM Huh. This dictator really likes bicycles. Even pushed a pro bicycle resolution in the UN.
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PittTheElder posted:
yeah but you prob have decent public transit, we don't
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ArmZ posted:any use case for an ebike is better served by either a real bike or a motorcycle 
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actionjackson posted:yeah but you prob have decent public transit, we don't yeah its called their feet
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does anyone have the quote comparing cares to stately beachfront villas? i'd like to read it again. 
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