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Are there branded products and private enterprise? Yes. Are there legally separate from human being as an entity corporations? Maybe, but it’s not really consistent with the feudal stylings of the setting.
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Abnett does his own thing. I guess you can say that mode of life is particular to the helican sub sector .
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May 17, 2022 16:00
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Gona headcanon it that Sublime, the planet in the Eye of Terror that acts as a neutral trading ground, is named after the corporation that owns it. Legally recognised by Chaos Gods.
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May 17, 2022 16:06
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Presumably that corporation has itself been elevated to the status of minor Chaos God of Capitalism by the fervent belief of middle management that "the corporation" can protect them.wiegieman posted:The thing to remember is that the imperium cares about reliable control. They want a single person or a family at the most who an inquisitor can show up to threaten, not a vast faceless corporate hydra that answers to The Shareholders and is just going to be taken over by the Alpha Legion anyway.
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May 17, 2022 16:11
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Capitalism isn't just "companies" or "money" or "commodity ownership", it's a whole legal framework guaranteeing the sovereignty of capital investment and making it the primary determinant for how resources are distributed. The Imperium is pretty clearly not that.
Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 17, 2022 |
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May 17, 2022 16:15
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Chaos has its own pocket civilizations. Q'Sal is a peak development paradise world with bickering city states that happens to also be a world of sorcerers, with the city states ruled by assemblies of notables. Even the Legions don't stick their dicks in there, that's a good way for the Magisters Immaterial to rip your soul out.
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May 17, 2022 16:16
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Arquinsiel posted:Presumably that corporation has itself been elevated to the status of minor Chaos God of Capitalism by the fervent belief of middle management that "the corporation" can protect them. They are protected, The big 4 and Abaddon made it a tax haven that they can run their shell companies out of. Capitalism is Chaos Undivided.
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May 17, 2022 16:18
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I'm not sure what the most recent mention of them are, but the Imperium has had a galactic spanning currency called Thrones that have appeared in more than one novel. I wonder if thats still canon or just by the wayside now
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May 17, 2022 16:26
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euphronius posted:Abnett does his own thing. I guess you can say that mode of life is particular to the helican sub sector . There's definitely a cyberpunk aesthetic to some of his novels that I haven't seen from anyone else in 40k.
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May 17, 2022 16:27
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Waroduce posted:I'm not sure what the most recent mention of them are, but the Imperium has had a galactic spanning currency called Thrones that have appeared in more than one novel. I wonder if thats still canon or just by the wayside now That's generally used. Now whether a Thone on Hellworld A is the same shape, size, and material as a Thone on Tombworld B, or if Throne means a measure of wheat on Agriworld C, is unknown.
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May 17, 2022 16:42
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OPAONI posted:That's generally used. Now whether a Thone on Hellworld A is the same shape, size, and material as a Thone on Tombworld B, or if Throne means a measure of wheat on Agriworld C, is unknown. Some planets additionally have local currency like Slates and Imperial Credits
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May 17, 2022 18:48
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Modern day economics is junk. But yeah even a hive world is going to have many different economies at once. Like Terra will have different economies depending on where you are vertically
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May 17, 2022 19:00
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Fellblade posted:Are there branded products and private enterprise? Yes. I mean the 40kMusk could literally live forever so good luck prying 40kTesla out of his juvenated fingers.
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May 17, 2022 21:52
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Just chainsword his fingers off 
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Arquinsiel posted:
This is where parking capital in a corporation where you have little direct control in 40K can be a very bad idea. Say you invest your hard earned* money into a corporation along with thousands of over people. The issue is if a small group of people at the top piss off the wrong person (planetary or sector governor, Inquisitor, Ecclesiarchy etc.) then it is all gone and you have no ability to get your money back. Or you can keep your money closer, with only a few other people, where you can keep an eye on the actions of the people in charge. If you want to see cancel culture, imagine if a corporation gets on the wrong side of an Ecclesiarchy Prelate and they declare it heretical. Boom, money gone as the faithful literally attack it. Parking your money closer to home in a place you can keep an eye on it is a safer option.
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Sure he got his wealth from blood adamantium but he builds one hell of a Gloriana so he's probably alright Edit: Lord Governor Muskius bought the public vox network which means I can finally post about the xenos' Human Replacement Plan again DaysBefore fucked around with this message at 22:42 on May 17, 2022 |
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May 17, 2022 22:38
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The Argentariae Imperialis must have a hell of a time doing conversion rates between local currencies. How much does a Khanak trophy skull fetch at a Baal blood chalice auction?
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Say you invest your hard earned* money into a corporation along with thousands of over people. The issue is if a small group of people at the top piss off the wrong person (planetary or sector governor, Inquisitor, Ecclesiarchy etc.) then it is all gone and you have no ability to get your money back. Or you can keep your money closer, with only a few other people, where you can keep an eye on the actions of the people in charge. DaysBefore posted:Sure he got his wealth from blood adamantium but he builds one hell of a Gloriana so he's probably alright
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May 17, 2022 22:46
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Arquinsiel posted:Just chainsword his fingers off you can do this irl too 
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There also unions
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Telsa Cola posted:There also unions Aka genestealer cults.
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Arc Hammer posted:Aka genestealer cults. Nah, legitimate trade unions with enough power that during wartime sieges they still have a say in in things.
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May 18, 2022 00:31
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The Mechanicum is basically a trade union
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Most planets in the Imperium tend to be forced into specific roles to meet their quotas.
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May 18, 2022 00:41
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Unions in 40k still serve the god-emperor, but they get an extra 5 minute water break inbetween the long shifts of extremely difficult and dangerous labour
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Capitalism isn't just "companies" or "money" or "commodity ownership", it's a whole legal framework guaranteeing the sovereignty of capital investment and making it the primary determinant for how resources are distributed. The Imperium is pretty clearly not that. This is correct, part of capitalist realism is that people consider concepts like “money” and “companies” and even “ownership” as inherently capitalist when in reality capitalism is just a particular expression of these concepts and scaffold on which they are arranged in relation to one another
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The Imperium is really just a permanent wartime economy, so the model you'd be looking at would be the US/Britain/Germany/Japan during WWII. It isn't capitalism, but it's not quite pre-capitalism either.
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euphronius posted:The Mechanicum is basically a trade union More like a medieval guild, which has some similarities to a union but is very much a different thing.
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Mechanicum are what would happen if the Luddites weren't all murdered by factory owners
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:This is correct, part of capitalist realism is that people consider concepts like “money” and “companies” and even “ownership” as inherently capitalist when in reality capitalism is just a particular expression of these concepts and scaffold on which they are arranged in relation to one another Mechafunkzilla posted:The Imperium is really just a permanent wartime economy, so the model you'd be looking at would be the US/Britain/Germany/Japan during WWII. It isn't capitalism, but it's not quite pre-capitalism either.
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Part of the deal is that the Mars pattern Russ is better, because Mars makes sure they have the best factories and personnel who are capable of mass production of stuff like gyroscopic stabilizers.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...n-by-guy-haley/ GW just announced another book by their writing AI, Guy Haley. For a change it's about an elf. 
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Arquinsiel posted:I'm not seeing a meaningful difference between that and your pension's hedge fund manager gambling on a meme stock like AMC. Well, your pension provider will have legal responsibilities and your money will have legal protections* against any kind of big systematic issues. It would be more like hedge funds in an authoritarian regime like Russia. If a powerful person wanted it shut down or to take the money then you have no choice but to roll over and say thank you. *only applicable in modern countries.
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That happens in the USA too .
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Well, your pension provider will have legal responsibilities and your money will have legal protections* against any kind of big systematic issues. ".
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New Dan Abnett on Saturday? "The Vincula Insurgency" https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new/the-vincula-insurgency-ghost-dossier-1-eng-ebook-2022.html Or has this already been out?
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So I wrapped up Gotrek and Felix under Nathan Long and see the next Omnibus changes authors again. I've been warned to avoid Omnibus 6, but is 5 still worth it? Can't seem to find a copy unfortunately on any used book sites.
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Miguel Prado posted:New Dan Abnett on Saturday? "The Vincula Insurgency" I think it's only been released as one of those giant rear end special editions.
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Yeah, it's that. Now to wait however long more until the paperback shows up I guess. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/20/gaunts-ghosts-return-in-the-vincula-insurgency-but-which-of-them-do-you-identify-with-most/
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It was yeah, and then it's going to take another year for the softback to come out. At which point I might have been able to get every other BL book I want because they seemingly hate third party retailers.
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