Cold on a Cob posted:

bmi was originally used for population statistics where it's "good enough" because most people are not athletes but it never should have been applied to individuals for gauging health

Koirhor posted:

Incorrect, most important predictor of overall health

big swole muscles are not great for you either, heart still has to work harder

humans are meant to be lean and mean, we still got that second part down tho

Koirhor posted:

if you live in america your concept of lean is outskewed by everyone else being very large

Koirhor posted:

Lake Mead has now dropped below 1,050.00 ft. Only 5 of the 17 turbines at the Hoover Dam are able to operate at this level.
The next milestone is 950 ft., below which the dam will be unable to produce power at all

from the r/collapse thread, at this rate its got 3 years left

Tony Tone posted:

It is something like week number seven since I have last went into work. Which wouldn't be too out of the usual for me, but because I am the most masochistic obedient manual-labor worker you will ever meet my boss is usually okay with that given I accomplish more work than 5 other people in the same amount of time when I actually do show up to work. My girlfriend with whom I live with has been unemployed for the past year since finishing her QA course, before we both realized it was a massive waste of time and money in our desperate attempt to escape poverty and landing a job in the glamorous world of High-Technology. The news this week said that the "hi-tech bubble" in our country "is probably bursting right now" as many are laid off and recruiting is even more tightly controlled.

I have been steadily going into extreme debt racking up bills and smoking not-even-fun amounts of weed, washing it all down with 12% alcohol beer cans to obliterate my senses as efficiently as possible (and to drown out the sounds of my partner sobbing uncontrollably in the other room). I tell myself this is fine, because all my life I have spent working 250 hour months and am usually able to off-set the debt accumulated during my burnt-out phases because of the insane overtime.

My girlfriend dreams of family. Of kids. She is losing her mind because of me because all I do is read this loving thread and play video games, chain smoking joint after joint after beer can before passing out in front of the computer every single day, all loving week. Every day is the same.

I do not have the strength to bring a child into this world and watch him grow in the same hell I live in. I know the value of hardship in this life, but I would be literally condemning him to slow suicide. My concerns fall on deaf ears. My partner thinks Im exaggerating. That I am Too Online, despite barely ever posting or even having any type of online friend. She doesn't understand that we will probably never live past our 50s or 60s, and even if we did, we'd wish we hadn't. She has seen me crawl out of my despair and work my loving rear end off before, but this time - I cannot continue pretending poo poo is going to be fine. I cannot continue putting my hopes and faith in a glimmer at the end of this tunnel because there is none. The tunnel collapsed a long time ago.

I find myself not even bothered by death anymore. Chaos begins to seem appealing to me. I started doing petty poo poo out of spite, like using insane amounts of single use poo poo at work (coffee cups, plastic stirrers, anything and everything disposable). Throwing away half the trash bag roll when taking out the trash because gently caress it all to hell and you can never loving find the right sweet spot to tear a bag out of the roll. Throwing away garbage out of the window of my car because I just dont give a poo poo anymore and deeply detest this place. This world. Funny because I used to go out of my way to pick poo poo up from the beach whenever I came to relax not only because it was the right thing to do, not only because glass shards can injure kids and poo poo, but also because I just wanted to not lay down in the sand surrounded by garbage. Not anymore lmao, I just stick my cigarette butts into the sand now. I might throw my empty beer can in the trash, might just leave it on the beach because I dont loving feel like going out of my way to throw it away.

This continuous meltdown feels really uncanny, I can feel myself becoming a piece of poo poo, but at the same time, it is getting more difficult to care. Everything I had believed in seems to be eroded, corrupted or just straight up irrelevant in the face of the end of it all. This loss of meaning has really cool and interesting impacts on your mental wellbeing Im sure you can tell, but it has even cooler impacts on your core beliefs. Protecting minorities? Having sympathy for the disadvantaged? Helping your neighbors? Subscribing to any kind of notion of patriotism or even the very loving concept of borders? Striving for success at work? Believing in economic systems? Saving up for a house?

Everything becomes much simpler when you know the party is going to end in the next few decades. All bets are off. I can truly just speedrun my bucket list at this point. Go into insane debt, go on vacations I cant afford to catch glimpses of this world before it's gone forever, come up with schemes to gently caress over my coworkers and my boss and my neighbor for my personal advantage & gain in literally any fashion (only makes sense to do so, we're all going to kill one another soon anyway), experiment with all the drugs I can, always do the bare minimum of work required, buy the latest VR tech and gear on loans to play out my fantasies and then do all that poo poo in real life with hookers or my girlfriend if she's still around. Do insurance scams by breaking my limb in the street and suing my local council. Swindle old people out of their money because their generation are mostly the ones who contributed the most to this extinction, it's the least they deserve. Use the money to buy huge playgrounds for cats and adopt at least 63 of them because animal life is more sacred than human even during these end times.

I dont know how one can reconcile both that climate change is real and still maintain some kind of personal life goal like work/school/aspiration/moral, without them either being hardcore cog dis experts or straight up not understand fully that they are not likely to live out their average life expectancy in any capacity. I dont even care at this point about being on some kind of "list" or whatever just because it feels like the internet and media is so totally saturated with this feeling in one form or another, and that everyone just sorta "knows" what is coming but refuses to talk about it out loud, that none of it truly matters beyond getting caught by algorithms or mods because we still have to maintain the pretenses of normality.

Tony Tone posted:

Tony Tone posted:

It is something like week number seven since I have last went into work. Which wouldn't be too out of the usual for me, but because I am the most masochistic obedient manual-labor worker you will ever meet my boss is usually okay with that given I accomplish more work than 5 other people in the same amount of time when I actually do show up to work. My girlfriend with whom I live with has been unemployed for the past year since finishing her QA course, before we both realized it was a massive waste of time and money in our desperate attempt to escape poverty and landing a job in the glamorous world of High-Technology. The news this week said that the "hi-tech bubble" in our country "is probably bursting right now" as many are laid off and recruiting is even more tightly controlled.

I have been steadily going into extreme debt racking up bills and smoking not-even-fun amounts of weed, washing it all down with 12% alcohol beer cans to obliterate my senses as efficiently as possible (and to drown out the sounds of my partner sobbing uncontrollably in the other room). I tell myself this is fine, because all my life I have spent working 250 hour months and am usually able to off-set the debt accumulated during my burnt-out phases because of the insane overtime.

My girlfriend dreams of family. Of kids. She is losing her mind because of me because all I do is read this loving thread and play video games, chain smoking joint after joint after beer can before passing out in front of the computer every single day, all loving week. Every day is the same.

I do not have the strength to bring a child into this world and watch him grow in the same hell I live in. I know the value of hardship in this life, but I would be literally condemning him to slow suicide. My concerns fall on deaf ears. My partner thinks Im exaggerating. That I am Too Online, despite barely ever posting or even having any type of online friend. She doesn't understand that we will probably never live past our 50s or 60s, and even if we did, we'd wish we hadn't. She has seen me crawl out of my despair and work my loving rear end off before, but this time - I cannot continue pretending poo poo is going to be fine. I cannot continue putting my hopes and faith in a glimmer at the end of this tunnel because there is none. The tunnel collapsed a long time ago.

I find myself not even bothered by death anymore. Chaos begins to seem appealing to me. I started doing petty poo poo out of spite, like using insane amounts of single use poo poo at work (coffee cups, plastic stirrers, anything and everything disposable). Throwing away half the trash bag roll when taking out the trash because gently caress it all to hell and you can never loving find the right sweet spot to tear a bag out of the roll. Throwing away garbage out of the window of my car because I just dont give a poo poo anymore and deeply detest this place. This world. Funny because I used to go out of my way to pick poo poo up from the beach whenever I came to relax not only because it was the right thing to do, not only because glass shards can injure kids and poo poo, but also because I just wanted to not lay down in the sand surrounded by garbage. Not anymore lmao, I just stick my cigarette butts into the sand now. I might throw my empty beer can in the trash, might just leave it on the beach because I dont loving feel like going out of my way to throw it away.

This continuous meltdown feels really uncanny, I can feel myself becoming a piece of poo poo, but at the same time, it is getting more difficult to care. Everything I had believed in seems to be eroded, corrupted or just straight up irrelevant in the face of the end of it all. This loss of meaning has really cool and interesting impacts on your mental wellbeing Im sure you can tell, but it has even cooler impacts on your core beliefs. Protecting minorities? Having sympathy for the disadvantaged? Helping your neighbors? Subscribing to any kind of notion of patriotism or even the very loving concept of borders? Striving for success at work? Believing in economic systems? Saving up for a house?

Everything becomes much simpler when you know the party is going to end in the next few decades. All bets are off. I can truly just speedrun my bucket list at this point. Go into insane debt, go on vacations I cant afford to catch glimpses of this world before it's gone forever, come up with schemes to gently caress over my coworkers and my boss and my neighbor for my personal advantage & gain in literally any fashion (only makes sense to do so, we're all going to kill one another soon anyway), experiment with all the drugs I can, always do the bare minimum of work required, buy the latest VR tech and gear on loans to play out my fantasies and then do all that poo poo in real life with hookers or my girlfriend if she's still around. Do insurance scams by breaking my limb in the street and suing my local council. Swindle old people out of their money because their generation are mostly the ones who contributed the most to this extinction, it's the least they deserve. Use the money to buy huge playgrounds for cats and adopt at least 63 of them because animal life is more sacred than human even during these end times.

I dont know how one can reconcile both that climate change is real and still maintain some kind of personal life goal like work/school/aspiration/moral, without them either being hardcore cog dis experts or straight up not understand fully that they are not likely to live out their average life expectancy in any capacity. I dont even care at this point about being on some kind of "list" or whatever just because it feels like the internet and media is so totally saturated with this feeling in one form or another, and that everyone just sorta "knows" what is coming but refuses to talk about it out loud, that none of it truly matters beyond getting caught by algorithms or mods because we still have to maintain the pretenses of normality.

Tony Tone posted:

I do not have the strength to bring a child into this world and watch him grow in the same hell I live in.

Tony Tone posted:

IAMKOREA posted:

Which country are you in? Bro you are suffering from depression. All the alcohol you're drinking has hosed your GABA receptors and they are making you feel like total poo poo because they are hyperactive when you aren't drinking alcohol and that causes feelings of doom, despair, anxiety, hopelessness, etc...You need to stop drinking now. Then you need to get the gently caress off the internet for a while. Stop reading this thread for the love of god lol. Maybe stop smoking weed too. Then you need to start exercising. Go hiking in the most natural place around you. It will help you get good brain and you will notice there are still insects around. They won't be around for much longer so it's you're duty as a conscious being to see them and appreciate them right loving now. Go take a nap in the grass and sun (check yourself for ticks after lol). Watch some bees getting nectar from some flowers, they still exist. Also don't litter dude wtf lol.

IAMKOREA posted:

Because exercise gives good brain, drat. It's called GABA.

Tony Tone posted:

SKULL.GIF posted:

The moment you were born you were doomed to fade out into an infinite void, biosphere collapse just means that the end of your personal timeline is coming somewhat sooner than you thought it would. There's absolutely nothing* you can personally do to alter either outcomes

the white hand posted:

Thanks, I know

Koirhor posted:

Lake Mead has now dropped below 1,050.00 ft. Only 5 of the 17 turbines at the Hoover Dam are able to operate at this level.
The next milestone is 950 ft., below which the dam will be unable to produce power at all

from the r/collapse thread, at this rate its got 3 years left

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Why did you stop reading there, the rest of the post is what you needed to read lol

empty whippet box posted:

Tony Tone I hope you don't take anything anyone is saying on attack on you. Everyone just wants you to be happy, sure the world is going to absolute poo poo in every possible way. It's not your fault and you shouldn't have to suffer for it.

Paradoxish posted:

I know we'll just keep moving water in from other places which is pretty lol, but Hoover Dam outright being unable to supply power is some pretty crazy doomsday poo poo.

the white hand posted:

"need to" see this is it. In my personal and professional experience of the world of mental health, the single most useless feature is the people who think their words are going to fix the badbrain. It's rear end-garbled victorian lecturing and self-satisfaction with the thinnest veneer of scientism and false clinical authority

empty whippet box posted:

Tony Tone I hope you don't take anything anyone is saying on attack on you. Everyone just wants you to be happy, sure the world is going to absolute poo poo in every possible way. It's not your fault and you shouldn't have to suffer for it.