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Dexo posted:NFL predictive metrics are loving dumb lmao (Last year wins)/2+4 was by far and away the most predictive metric under the old 16 game schedule .
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Bird in a Blender posted:They’re not saying the packers are better than the rams, they just improved more than them. I don’t agree with the rankings though. Although the Bears might be right. No, they’re saying the Packers are better than the Rams.
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# ? May 19, 2022 15:05 |
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Even with a data driven model backing it I usually put almost no stock in preseason power rankings. I was curious if there was an equivalent from last year and this is the best I could find, one from after Week 1 of last year. I highlighted the playoff teams and marked the 10 worst teams in draft order. Whatever the model is, it looks like it's pretty good at picking the bad teams, but not as good at picking the good teams. Both 1 seeds and the loser of the SB are in the bottom half (but the Packers and Titans did both lose). And of course you can't really predict injuries so there's always going to be some randomness. GNU Order fucked around with this message at 15:07 on May 19, 2022 |
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It basically seems fine with a weird outlier here and there but I don't see how it's more predictive than a Dan Hanzus Power Ranking column.
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# ? May 19, 2022 15:47 |
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I don't wanna give too much detail cause it'll turn into a PII violation pretty fast if I do, but at work today I got a piece of returned mail meant for a former Lion. So I got to go into the system and update his address! Exciting times.
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https://twitter.com/WesHod/status/1526622003909873665 https://twitter.com/Peter_Bukowski/status/1526620873762947072
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# ? May 19, 2022 16:19 |
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Joe Barry does seem like he’s working out.
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SKULL.GIF posted:https://twitter.com/WesHod/status/1526622003909873665 Jordan Love is going to be waiting a long time.
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# ? May 19, 2022 21:56 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Jordan Love is going to be waiting a long time. 3 weeks until someone caves in Rodgers's shoulder isn't that long
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# ? May 19, 2022 22:34 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Jordan Love is going to be waiting a long time. Because Rodgers is basically broke now that crypto crashed?
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# ? May 19, 2022 22:37 |
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he'll get to play after Rodgers does a last boy scout to pay off his crypto debts
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# ? May 19, 2022 22:44 |
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Because Rodgers is basically broke now that crypto crashed?
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# ? May 19, 2022 22:51 |
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i highly, highly doubt rodgers is broke from the crypto crash
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# ? May 19, 2022 22:58 |
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Does Rodgers do Crypto. I think Brady does it at least shills it
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# ? May 19, 2022 23:04 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Does Rodgers do Crypto. Yeah he took a portion of his 2021 salary in bitcoin and spoke at a crypto conference this offseason.
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# ? May 19, 2022 23:09 |
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Rodgers definitely does crypto. Brady seems like the type of guy to shill it for cash.
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# ? May 19, 2022 23:09 |
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Rich people do crypto. The volatility is something that they can benefit from very easily as eating some losses won't impact their portfolios tremendously unless they're overexposing themselves. Brady has NFTs and is co-founder and co-chair of https://autograph.io/
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# ? May 19, 2022 23:16 |
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Dubious posted:i highly, highly doubt rodgers is broke from the crypto crash Yeah, the meme stocks and right wing social media platforms he backed also played a part
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# ? May 19, 2022 23:59 |
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Dexo posted:I doubt the Lions finish with a better record than the Bears, I guess I wouldn't be surprised. But the Bears are still a better team lol. Lions are pretty bad at the skill positions but their line should be really good. I wouldn't be surprised if they sniffed 8-9 wins. They were decimated with injuries last year. Bears are abysmal and are tanking for Stroud.
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# ? May 20, 2022 00:17 |
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Niwrad posted:Lions are pretty bad at the skill positions but their line should be really good. I wouldn't be surprised if they sniffed 8-9 wins. They were decimated with injuries last year.
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:01 |
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There is nothing that makes me think the Bears are tanking for a QB lmao. It is the most absurd narrative. I guess if Fields is still dogshit this year with theoretically better coaching, and a more sane offense, then obviously you look at replacing him. But Poles/Eberflus/Getsy don't strike me as someone who is itching to replace Fields or tanking.
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:04 |
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It's also very funny how comically underrated Mooney is. Do I think he's a "True #1" receiver, no but he still had 1k yards in that dogshit offense last year.
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gloom posted:Is Amon-Ra St. Brown for real? I only know that he put up great numbers for fantasy football late last year. I think Cephus was starting to pop off too before he got injured
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:22 |
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Seriously I don't understand why people are acting like the Bears will somehow be worse on offense. Did nobody watch last year? I feel like their floor is equally as inept as last year.
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:24 |
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Dexo posted:There is nothing that makes me think the Bears are tanking for a QB lmao. It is the most absurd narrative. Niwrad is convinced that the Bears have already decided that Fields is a massive bust, despite him being hurt last year, playing behind a tissue paper offensive line and having no running game to speak of to back him up, and playing for a coaching staff that seemed hellbent on getting him killed on the field because everyone knew they were losing their jobs after the season.
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:27 |
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Honestly, these last couple of years broke a lot of our brains.
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# ? May 20, 2022 01:42 |
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To be fair it's not like they've done all that much to stop the line from being just as bad this year and the receiving corps is worse idk whether dropping the nagy playbook will be enough to make up for it all
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# ? May 20, 2022 02:45 |
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lol compare Pringle and Allen Robinson from last year. With how Allen Robinson was playing/being used you could make the argument the recieving room didn't get much worse. Now Allen Robinson is almost assuredly better than anything Pringle has shown, but as far as production last year yeaaaah.
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# ? May 20, 2022 02:54 |
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If anything, Nagy unintentionally tanked trying to save his own rear end. It was pretty bad last year. Mooney can be a #1. Just not the stereotypical 8 foot tall guy with massive hands. What he lacks in height he makes up for in speed. Robinson was a non factor last year and the only major change on offense will be a new scheme and Fields getting 1st team reps and the start 100% of the time. Like he should have last year.
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# ? May 20, 2022 03:19 |
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I want it to be known, I don't think the Bears are going to be good or anything, unless Fields takes like 3 steps forward or Getsy is the second coming, and then he's gone to be a head coach lol. But how bad they are feels like it's being drastically overstated.
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Timby posted:Niwrad is convinced that the Bears have already decided that Fields is a massive bust, despite him being hurt last year, playing behind a tissue paper offensive line and having no running game to speak of to back him up, and playing for a coaching staff that seemed hellbent on getting him killed on the field because everyone knew they were losing their jobs after the season. So why didn't Poles get him any meaningful help for any of these issues?
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ZombieCrew posted:Mooney can be a #1. Just not the stereotypical 8 foot tall guy with massive hands. This isn’t what most #1 receivers are. Most of the top guys are ~6’0”. Mooney’s problem isn’t his height it’s that he’s about 25lbs too light. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 03:43 on May 20, 2022 |
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Lol I have no confidence in Eberflus, dude looks like a total pud.
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# ? May 20, 2022 03:48 |
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Dexo posted:I want it to be known, I don't think the Bears are going to be good or anything, unless Fields takes like 3 steps forward or Getsy is the second coming, and then he's gone to be a head coach lol. Same. They won't be good, but that doesn't preclude them from being better than last year. I think it is overstated that the Bears didn't do enough. They drafted a whole bunch of offensive line help, they clearly seem to like the rookie tackles drafted last year. The Bears have young skill players that they clearly want to see if they can develop. They also have a very good one two running back random in Montgomery and Herbert, guys that the previous regime always seemed to ignore because they prefer having Fields do 7 step drops with no protection. The Bears are banking on Getsy being a good play caller and Fields being their quarterback of the future. If they are right on both counts, they are probably a top half of the league offense, which would be a huge improvement. If those things aren't true, they'll have a whole offseason of tape and continuity of staff and roster to figure out where they need to improve. It really is the best plan long term for the Bears being successful and I don't get why people are so down on them. SKULL.GIF posted:So why didn't Poles get him any meaningful help for any of these issues? Because the cap was hosed and it needs to be unfucked if they want to build for long term success. They've been quite transparent about it.
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Sataere posted:
And i think they did a really good job of that so far. As things stand right now, the bears will be nearly 100mil under the cap going into 2023.
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# ? May 20, 2022 07:17 |
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They're not just dealing with cap hell, but also with the impact of the trades they had made, and the lack of draft capital. I don't think they have it in them this year to be a top-half offense, even if things go extremely well. I think their receiver group is extremely raw. But getting the o-line back to decent always needed to be the first step, and they've made progress there. The hole they were in was a lot larger than people think, and it's going to take a few seasons to climb out.
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# ? May 20, 2022 07:18 |
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The Bears addressed the offensive line by losing their best tackle who was a 41 year old mummy and a competent guard and replaced them with a backup guard playing center, a ryan pace draft pick with a bad back who looked awful in limited playing time and then by drafting a bunch of guys on day 3 who if we're lucky maybe one guy will see the field. I think the national pundits who are shrieking that the bears have BETRAYED justin fields by not doing anything but aquiring wide receivers and are WASTING HIS ROOKIE CONTRACT are annoying (who loving cares, if the bears actually have a good quarterback under any circumstances then throw a party) but I also think that it's a little silly to think the bears who have had a good offense for one year in my entire life are going to fix their offense made out of special teams guys and fourth wide receivers because of some magical scheme wrought by the guy who was aaron rodgers's quarterbacks coach. That's the exact thinking we had about Nagy coming in and I am very wary about schemes in the NFL being able to cover for talent. The Bears need to eat poo poo because somehow they are the only team in the NFL affected by the salary cap and had no draft picks which is fine and understandable and they'll be in a much better position next year, but I think that they will be very bad this season. R.D. Mangles fucked around with this message at 12:54 on May 20, 2022 |
# ? May 20, 2022 12:34 |
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Getsy might suck at play calling or whatever. But the offensive "system" they are installing is an insanely QB friendly one. As it's like generally specifically designed around the strengths and weaknesses of the QB. Shanahan's/LaFleur's basic offense is an insanely simple offense with simple reads and actions that build off of the run(the Bears offenses strength) that is designed to make it bone dry simple to play QB in it. The benefit of having Aaron Rodgers(and why Jimmy G has always been a problem in Niners land) is that if the basic offense gets stopped or you need to score quickly, Aaron Rodgers is the king of just making poo poo happen. While Jimmy G is not that. I don't think this is a magical scheme will save the Bears situation. I think this is more the Bears will have a basic sane scheme (not unlike they did when they first had Trubisky, and they just ran a simple rear end offense for him that was successful) Before Matt Nagy decided he had to be the smartest guy in the room. Know what you do when you have a bad pass blocking o-line, run the ball and run play action off those formations. Run some goddamn screens plays. Throw a goddamn slant.
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https://twitter.com/jdavhill/status/1527677237931155457
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Apparently there's an incomprehensible NFT / Cryto thing going on at the Vikings' bird killing dome https://twitter.com/NFTbark/status/1527667219227877379
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