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Tree Bucket posted:Well no, but- tilt your phone/monitor to the left or right. You can't suddenly see the side of your av's face. I can see the side of your av's head. EDIT: lol what a page snipe. Anyway yeah, I think it depends on context, like TVs where the newscaster would obviously be facing the camera, but for other images not shown more than once in the comic, you can easily justify it as "the picture is just already of someone at an angle". Ditocoaf has a new favorite as of 23:17 on May 20, 2022 |
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DO IT*crying, tearing off clothe
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# ? May 20, 2022 23:30 |
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Okay a terrible picture but I hope it sort of illustrates the point Weirdly enough the messed up broken perspective looks better at a glance because our monkey brains know that heads have sides and don't know much about printing 3d objects onto 2d planes viewed in a 3d angle on an actual 2d plane. But if you spent way too long as a kid trying to draw things accurately, it really jumps out at you.
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# ? May 20, 2022 23:39 |
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Tree Bucket posted:
It took me a bit to figure out what you were saying originally because Heathcliff just looked normal at first in the original, but I get what you're saying. It feels like one of those things that would jump out a lot faster to me if I was looking at them as actual objects that I could rotate a little bit in 3D to see some perspective shift, rather than just a static cartoon drawing.
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# ? May 20, 2022 23:47 |
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Ditocoaf posted:I can see the side of your av's head. Yeah, it's a totally reasonable shortcut for an artist to take, at least for things like webcomics that no one's going to look at for too long. On the other hand, golden age Simpsons eps used these perspective rules for things like billboards and tvs to create a weirdly powerful sense of alienation.
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# ? May 21, 2022 00:23 |
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And the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual just said the viewscreens were 3D and holographic
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Tree Bucket posted:Well no, but- tilt your phone/monitor to the left or right. You can't suddenly see the side of your av's face. Yeah, I know that, but- Tree Bucket posted:
-well, NOW I can. But while I of all people appreciate somebody putting effort into explaining a basic concept to some tool online, I'm just not seeing it. Like, the issue on the Heathcliff billboard is that the faces are in partial profile, and the billboard is also seen at an angle, and this makes it... look like you're looking into a 3D box? It's that last part that gets me. Like, is the issue that the angle the faces are seen at is precisely the same as that seen on the faces, which is unlikely? I feel like the answer I predict would be "Yes, kinda, but there's also natural distortion due to angle/distance, a narrowing of perspective, that's not present" which is KINDA fair, but it's not like it's a photograph of a billboard with the face of Heathcliff the cartoon cat on it; it's still a cartoon. I'm not sure we've ever seen Heathcliff's face , e.g., dead-on, because the semi-representational nature of a cartoon doesn't work like that; Heathcliff's face is generally drawn the same whether you're viewing it from sixty degrees or forty degrees (because it's not meant to be a precise 2D representation of a 3D Healthcliff object, it's cartoony, which means among other things that the proportional relationship between facial features remains the same among a much broader range of viewing angles, if that makes sense) and that doesn't seem to bother you as much. It's definitely true that I didn't spend a lot of time as a kid trying to draw things accurately, but neither did the Heathcliff artist, if Heathcliff is any indication. That's not a slam, I'm just saying that basic laws of perspective are loosely enforced at best in most (loosely-drawn, cartoony) comics, and most especially when it comes to character faces.
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# ? May 21, 2022 01:39 |
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I like this
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# ? May 21, 2022 02:54 |
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Rex had never seen such bullshit.
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# ? May 21, 2022 02:56 |
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Also if no-one starts posting Trixie after brain chip is over I am going to freak out.
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:03 |
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Someone should post Lies, Sisters and Wives as a palate cleanser first.
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:05 |
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Makai no Ossan! Read right to left
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:09 |
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I feel like the central conceit of brain chip is no longer 'parallel universes' but a more generic 'mad scientists'
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:09 |
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i better get another qcs thread out of this
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Oh yeah, I will never say no to cluttering up the leper's colony (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:12 |
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That's such a funny gag from a pretty serious plot turn in Makai, holy poo poo.
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# ? May 21, 2022 03:16 |
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Lmao
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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Zil posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) I’m in (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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Have to assume the funny talker is Runnie's Replace. Crazy to learn that M-Dude is a Ronnie mind-clone though. Especially since his dad has one too.
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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theironjef posted:Have to assume the funny talker is Runnie's Replace. Crazy to learn that M-Dude is a Ronnie mind-clone though. Especially since his dad has one too. M-dude is described specifically as the outward manifestation of Ronnie's motivation. Presumably something is similar for his dad. (Which, incidentally, is Krampus)
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ultrafilter posted:
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ultrafilter posted:
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# ? May 21, 2022 06:33 |
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Gonna have to post a few more pages of The Property of Hate to get in a full action sequence. And its explanation at the end.
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ultrafilter posted:
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