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It sure looks like the same outfit she's been wearing since the start of the year:
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May 19, 2022 00:42
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That was the last interaction they had and he hasn't apologized for it that I remember.
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May 19, 2022 00:44
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I still want to know what that stuff is, since "tastes like seaweed" implies it is not actually seaweed, but why would you make imitation seaweed flavor if you live right next to a place with seaweed? This isn't even like imitation crab where fish is cheaper, or imitation beef/pork for vegetarians.Happy Landfill posted:I don't think this story is capable of handling the nuance of a story like that. It can barely handle the sense that not-Snout characters have lives and personality offscreen. Seriously, where did they even go Dominic Deegan has never been capable of anything even remotely resembling nuance, I know that. But more than that I think it's just that Mookie is really poo poo at worldbuilding so he doesn't think about things like "If an oppressed group started a retaliation campaign against those who oppressed them, wouldn't at least some people think they were justified?" The extent of worldbuilding to him is "This is where x race lives, they eat these foods and do these things to have an economy." We got through most of the "cruise ship" arc in the Deegan classic flashbacks where it was just that. These are the halflings, the women have big boobs and they like beer, but hate jocks who only drink to get drunk. That is all there is to know about the halflings.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I still want to know what that stuff is, since "tastes like seaweed" implies it is not actually seaweed, but why would you make imitation seaweed flavor if you live right next to a place with seaweed? This isn't even like imitation crab where fish is cheaper, or imitation beef/pork for vegetarians.
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May 19, 2022 01:57
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callanians are genuinely terrible, zero redeeming features
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May 19, 2022 02:04
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Caphi posted:That was the last interaction they had and he hasn't apologized for it that I remember. Why would he have to apologize? Everybody already knows he's Nice.
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May 19, 2022 04:07
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snout's hosed up torso makes me unreasonably angry
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May 19, 2022 04:32
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:snout's rear end 
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May 19, 2022 18:38
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...I don't understand, god help me, I don't understand
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May 19, 2022 19:29
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I miss Regular Show, that was a great series. The world-building was amazing, and the stories were tight. Mookie wishes he could do a fraction of what Regular Show did
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May 19, 2022 20:07
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Joe Slowboat posted:...I don't understand, god help me, I don't understand Didn't mean to be obtuse; I meant to imply Snout's asymmetrical butt cheek as he sits on the beach resembles Rigby's destroyed rear end cheek, which he injured playing punchies with Skips in some unspecified manner. Powerful Katrinka posted:I miss Regular Show, that was a great series. The world-building was amazing, and the stories were tight. Mookie wishes he could do a fraction of what Regular Show did It was the best. They would also regularly create evil golems made of fryer oil, cheat death, and destroy the universe in under 11 minutes. Im many ways, it was the exact opposite of legacy.
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May 19, 2022 23:06
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 Just killin' time doing gently caress and all. Ink Witch is really sold on showing her taint to the world and Arudak pretends he is literally anywhere but here.
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May 20, 2022 05:02
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Gonna pretend that they all literally just popped into existence.
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May 20, 2022 05:04
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Lazy copy and pasting Uncomfortable poses Drawing dick and balls again for no reason They literally pop into existence with no changes. What were they doing? How long has it been? Do they even know or care what they're supposed to be doing?
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May 20, 2022 05:14
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I don't hate the page on its own. But it might be more meaningful if anything had happened prior
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Hostile V posted:Ink Witch is really sold on showing her taint to the world Yeah I was gonna say that's a hell of a position for a woman wearing a dress to sit in, though I guess maybe Ink Witch just has no inhibitions? In support of that, she was always quick to strip her clothes off when she was in bed with Snout. Against that, though, we have the fact that we haven't seen her be casually nude at any other point.
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May 20, 2022 05:50
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They aren't shown naked with anyone other than good soft boi Snout because he's the main character and potential love interest and if they were naked around other men they'd be sluts Like I'm pretty sure that's the only time they've been naked, except for dream stuff
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May 20, 2022 05:53
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...time works the same way.
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SubG posted:...time works the same way. lmao
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May 20, 2022 06:10
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I only see two balls though?
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Mx. posted:I don't hate the page on its own. But it might be more meaningful if anything had happened prior This is how I feel about it as well, practically nothing has happened that indicated that any of them are friends. Mookie will occasionally put in a moment like this, but puts in no effort to work his way up too it. Like when Ink Witch (I still laugh at the fact that's her actual name) is gushing about Kaianda chosing her name. All we get is Arudak rolling his eyes in a way that just screams "Women, am I right? annnndddd, that's it. No bonding moment, no talk about why she chose that name or IW bringing up her own name. It just stops there, and then loving Snout of all people names Ink Witch....Ink Witch. And how about IW and Arudak, the way they put aside their differences, off camera and with no explanation. Hell, even when Arudak and Punch Orc were going at it, neither Snout nor IW even tried too intervene, they were too busy providing the audience with exposition. Most of the interactions are plot related, characters gushing over how nice Snout is, or the rare, awful attempt at comedy. The actual character moments are very few and far between.
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May 20, 2022 07:13
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Ink witch and Snout are going to have a lot of sand in their taints
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I like how Snout and the person who actually got a name, but I can't be bothered to remember it, just as I can't be bothered to remember the other two's names, don't even acknowledge, in anyway, the new arrivals.
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May 20, 2022 09:41
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Yes - this would have been fine if there was like, any movement at all between panels. Anything to indicate that time has passed. Instead it feels like dimension-hopping. I normally don't care for mookie doing some lazy copy-pasting but it stands out way too much in this page.
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May 20, 2022 09:54
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If you're going to do a vacation arc, wouldn't it be more fun, and more visually interesting to have a cool little side-story that has an arc, rather than like 10 - 15 comics where nothing happens?
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May 20, 2022 10:40
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"if you're going to tell a story wouldnt it make sense to have a story" the question we all ask
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May 20, 2022 10:49
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I guess it’s time to take a break from the break we were taking.
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So they all worked put their emotional issues offscreen or something I guess. Hope so because Snout was certainly no help
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Rotten Red Rod posted:So they all worked put their emotional issues offscreen or something I guess. Hope so because Snout was certainly no help What are you talking about? He solved all of their emotional issues by running away from home to gently caress a bog witch. This helped them realized that all of their emotional issues were nothing when compared to the idea of them making a grown man sad by not going fishing with him.
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May 20, 2022 17:07
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Snout doesn't need to do anything to help his friends because they already know that he's Nice.
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The real vomited pond booze was the friends Snout boned along the way!
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RandomPauI posted:The real vomited pond booze was the friends Snout boned along the way! We have a winner
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Mx. posted:I don't hate the page on its own. I do. It’s supposed to be some sort of “our heros are naturally drawn to each other, and such good friends that they don’t even need to interact to convey their closeness” but it doesn’t work well. Because Mookie is lazy and low-effort, it’s all done by copy-paste, which means the characters are actually completely non-reactive to each other. There is no happy recognition, no show of bond, no accommodation and drawing together, just four people sitting on the beach in silence. Even if the sitting in silence is supposed to show a calm contemplativeness, the complete lack of interaction makes the scene uninteresting and ring false. What makes it even worse for me is that, while on the surface it’s just boring and uninteresting, it’s built on a bunch of bullshit. These characters don’t have an earned friendship, they just have a lack of conflict because Mookie hates conflict and resolves it as quickly and stupidly as possible. The calm contemplativeness they’re showing isn’t something special because they’ve done nothing but bumble around at their own pace with no constraints or pressures for years now. It’s a stupid setup where Mookie leans into his worst artistic habits and tries to pretend they’re strengths. “Look at how the characters I’ve cut and pasted are all together! Look at how these characters with little personality and no direction and no story are all at ease with each other! Isn’t this a great, poignant scene? “ I hate it.
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You can feel Mookie's satisfaction with this page. Monday update is a journal entry: "Whatever may come next, my friends and I will face it together." If he didn't suck, it would be at the bottom of this page or something like that, but he'll never pass up the chance for a filler page.
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I'm the bingo boy
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The craziest thing, is that he could still have done the copy pasting, by just drawing one additional scene of the previous person greeting the next one. It's a 4 panel black and white comic that he makes 15 grand a year on, like come the gently caress on. And the copy pasting would have even been more thematic, and the calm more obvious. I read a bit of Dominic Deegan in the byob thread, but the only reason I keep up with it is because it makes me feel less bad about what I create. At what point do you stop making your art for fun and start phoning it in. It's not colored OR shaded! It's black and white, it takes like 2 hours tops. Disregard, there actually was a smudge on my glasses. Boba Pearl fucked around with this message at 11:42 on May 21, 2022 |
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I admit this comic got so tedious in march that, along with some work stuff that took precedence, I dropped off following it without even realizing lol. Glad to have caught up and realized I missed exactly nothing. Chapter 24: Around the World Part 8: The Semashi Kingdom  Semashi, along with being the "non-white" portion of humanity in Deegan verse, are obviously a catchall culture of southern European stereotypes. Except their buildings have fluted rooves like Japanese pagodas. It's quite clear that Mookie based this on every superficial piece of knowledge about the region circling around American nerd circles at the time. For instance:  The Commedia del Musica is obviously a refernce to Commedia dell'arte, but the reference is only to the title really. Like most of Mookie's shoutouts, it's very shallow and ultimately meaningless. Of course, token liberal idea of diversity, which is not in itself bad but is at this point just Mookie smugly patting himself on the back for making his non Callan cultures "progressive". Two art notes: - That dude is playing a violin with a sword. - Of course the lady had to have her but showing in the dancing scene. Not profile either, despite her face, but the full 3/4 both cheeks view.  Again, this dirty dancing/tango thing is fine, but very stereotypical, and is all the more funny for being Mookie's only other human culture. Of course, the addition of a "Dance-off" portion is very mid 2000s, and also again, bordering a little bit on the problematic since Semashis are the only non-white humans. I bring this up because, while it is true that the Semashi are not based on black American or African culture, they are uniformly depicted as the same shade of dark brown when Mookie colours them in. You'll see that later here. It's really clear that these are Mookie's attempt to include "PoC"s in his setting.  Of course, this wouldn't be a Deegan story if douchebag bigots didn't show up to once again force the spotlight back onto the main two.  I remember when this was live, that at this point people were super angry that Mookie was about to give his Gary Stu magic dancing abilities. I still believe that's what Mookie intended, but he chickens out at the last second, and instead  And proceeds to make a huge rear end of himself, but of course everybody is on the side of poor handicapped Dominic. In any other comic, this would seem incredibly condescending, but Mookie means it sincerely. Bonus points that in panel 7 Luna full on calls dominic a cripple in the narration.  But Mookie wants you to understand that Dominic really was an amazing dancer. It was really just the leg that did him in. Even here, Mookie can't stand the idea of his special boy being bad at anything.  And of course, everybody loves the Deegans now, the rumor mill apparently working like Mookie's brain and being incapable of anything but heaping praise on them. Dominic continues his reputation for grace and tact...  This was mildly interesting at the time, but it literally ends here and leads nowhere. It even looks like Dominic was going to be able to call Archangelo a friend, but that squibs out in the best way possible (for mocking).  I don't even know what Mookie was going for here. It's like he was looking for a way to absolve Scarlatti of wrongdoing, but wouldn't the illusion have been enough? Why is the fact that he was "unaware" somehow determining whether or not what occurred was murder. And also, were the actually possessed or not? The resistant metal thing makes it seem like what Scarlatti saw was real, and that his friends would have tried to kill him if he didn't defend himself. Totally unneeded extra compliment to Dominic here.  LOL WHAT? This strip is one of those that stands out strongly in my memory. Because either Mookie literally changed his mind on a plot point halfway through making the strip, or he was trying to pull at the readers' heartstrings again for poor little Dominic. See, he's not perfect! Archangelo said so! See things don't always go his way! There you big meanies!  And we end this with the strip illustrating my point above, which is that the Semashi are uniformly depicted as having one marker tone of dark brown skin. E; I just realized that he has a few mildly different skin tones in the strip of Dominic posing above. So 2-3 shades of brown really. Regardless, Semashia is really "Ibero-Italian Nonwhiteistan" Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 13:24 on May 21, 2022 |
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Beelzebufo I love you
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Boba Pearl posted:The craziest thing, is that he could still have done the copy pasting, by just drawing one additional scene of the previous person greeting the next one. It's a 4 panel black and white comic that he makes 15 grand a year on, like come the gently caress on. And the copy pasting would have even been more thematic, and the calm more obvious. I read a bit of Dominic Deegan in the byob thread, but the only reason I keep up with it is because it makes me feel less bad about what I create. At what point do you stop making your art for fun and start phoning it in. absolute samesies
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