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frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.

bobjr posted:

That insane therapy chart they have does have a healthy dose of victim blaming on a few different levels, where someone who had some awful trauma inflicted on them could easily develop some serious issues from it.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Cassette Moodcore posted:

He did, he explains it in podcast but basically his family went into the IBLP church Gothard poo poo and he just got gaslit through the church and he went to Josh in earnest because hey duggars are on tv the community supports them etc he asked how to I believe block adult content via covenant eyes or something a fundamentalist program to block internet content

Long story short he asked for privacy and then Josh went and told everyone he viewed pornography which was the catalyst to him leaving the community

As for advice from Josh I’d have to re-listen to it but I don’t think he gave him any

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Not only that, but the dude confided in Josh that he had been abused and Josh ratted him out to the abuser.

i feel like this is one of the unremembered hosed up things. but didnt he abuse all the women he met on Ashley Madison. like really really badly.

anyway what day does this gently caress get sentenced

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

They literally designed the house so the boys couldn't molest the girls.





ill never look at anor londo the same way again

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

CPL593H posted:

Groverhaus of horrors.

Josh's load bearing pants

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i feel like this is one of the unremembered hosed up things. but didnt he abuse all the women he met on Ashley Madison. like really really badly.

anyway what day does this gently caress get sentenced
It's not clear if he ever met anyone on Ashley Madison. I mean what about him could possibly be appealing.

He paid porn stars for sex. One of them says it was hosed up / nonconsensual, but charges were dropped after it was proven he wasn't in the city where/when she said it happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Dillon

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Anne Whateley posted:

It's not clear if he ever met anyone on Ashley Madison. I mean what about him could possibly be appealing.

He paid porn stars for sex. One of them says it was hosed up / nonconsensual, but charges were dropped after it was proven he wasn't in the city where/when she said it happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Dillon

It's not clear how many real actual women were using Ashley Madison. The site basically existed to get idiots like Josh to sign up to chat with bots. And dumbshit paid for two accounts.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

DickParasite posted:

It's not clear how many real actual women were using Ashley Madison. The site basically existed to get idiots like Josh to sign up to chat with bots. And dumbshit paid for two accounts.

Yeah, that whole incident was fascinating because you of course assumed that there were very few actual women on Ashley Madison, but when the data came out it turned out it was virtually zero. Like if you looked at 100 female profiles they were probably literally all bots.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Ashley Madison was a genius idea to monetize Dunning-Krueger in middle age men and it ended the best way possible.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Anne Whateley posted:

It's not clear if he ever met anyone on Ashley Madison. I mean what about him could possibly be appealing.

He paid porn stars for sex. One of them says it was hosed up / nonconsensual, but charges were dropped after it was proven he wasn't in the city where/when she said it happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Dillon

interesting. i mean judging by the poo poo i keep hearing he liked. i doubt it was the nice kind of rough stuff. loving rear end in a top hat.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Never trust a bot with two first names

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Ashley Madison had fewer women than Grindr

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
It's incredible how much it apparently takes for any community to actually get rid of a pedophile, in the town I used to live in in mississippi a longtime local pedo just got finally arrested after literally decades of being well known as an abuser, rapist and pedophile. Everyone I knew in that town had a story about this guy assaulting them or someone they cared about, including me(he tried to assault my wife once almost a decade ago). Just look at this dude's loving mugshot:

this dude existed as a well known pedo, abuser and rapist for 15-20 years in the same town, everyone knew about it, the police knew about it, it just didn't matter.

i know it's off topic a bit but, im just constantly surprised at how much people talk about what they'd do to pedos etc but the reality of it is, nobody does loving anything, even when everyone knows.

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Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

jazzyhattrick posted:

Has a stairwell nonce-bashing left Josh quadro-spazzed on a life glug yet?

Hopefully not, or else we may be forced to reckon with a Roboplegic Wrong Cock any day now....

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

empty whippet box posted:

It's incredible how much it apparently takes for any community to actually get rid of a pedophile, in the town I used to live in in mississippi a longtime local pedo just got finally arrested after literally decades of being well known as an abuser, rapist and pedophile. Everyone I knew in that town had a story about this guy assaulting them or someone they cared about, including me(he tried to assault my wife once almost a decade ago). Just look at this dude's loving mugshot:

this dude existed as a well known pedo, abuser and rapist for 15-20 years in the same town, everyone knew about it, the police knew about it, it just didn't matter.

i know it's off topic a bit but, im just constantly surprised at how much people talk about what they'd do to pedos etc but the reality of it is, nobody does loving anything, even when everyone knows.



it reminds me of the kristan smart case. they knew the dude who did it for years but his family lawyered up and his parents apperently helped dump the body. he got arrested in like 2020 or something and now his trial is being slow walked. when he was free, the dude did tons of other creepy hosed up sex crimes and rapes and basicaly got away with it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-21/kristin-smart-case-paul-flores-murder-trial-monterey




Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


It's a shame that more communities didn't take the "In Broad Daylight" case to heart

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




empty whippet box posted:

It's incredible how much it apparently takes for any community to actually get rid of a pedophile, in the town I used to live in in mississippi a longtime local pedo just got finally arrested after literally decades of being well known as an abuser, rapist and pedophile. Everyone I knew in that town had a story about this guy assaulting them or someone they cared about, including me(he tried to assault my wife once almost a decade ago). Just look at this dude's loving mugshot:

this dude existed as a well known pedo, abuser and rapist for 15-20 years in the same town, everyone knew about it, the police knew about it, it just didn't matter.

i know it's off topic a bit but, im just constantly surprised at how much people talk about what they'd do to pedos etc but the reality of it is, nobody does loving anything, even when everyone knows.



Hell, just look at the incredibly recent report that the Southern Baptist Convention has had a sex abuse scandal on par with what the Catholic Church was up to in the US.

It’s the same thing, over and over again: religious people apparently prefer the appearance of normalcy over doing the right thing by holding the powerful and influential people in their community accountable.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
It's not just religious people, it's Hollywood, it's academia, it's nerds, it's business, it's literally every subgroup. If you're thinking "it's those gross people over there, it's definitely not us!!" guaranteed it's your group too.

Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av

Anne Whateley posted:

It's not just religious people, it's Hollywood, it's academia, it's nerds, it's business, it's literally every subgroup. If you're thinking "it's those gross people over there, it's definitely not us!!" guaranteed it's your group too.

:emptyquote:

Ralph Hurley
Aug 3, 2009

:barf::sweep::zoid:



empty whippet box posted:


i know it's off topic a bit but, im just constantly surprised at how much people talk about what they'd do to pedos etc but the reality of it is, nobody does loving anything, even when everyone knows.


In recent years there has been a rise in vigilante groups, like an army of Chris Hansens out there decoying as underage kids on dating apps, getting the pedos to meet up and then doing everything from loudly humiliating them in Walmart and on their own social media, making them call their mom, wife or boss, to beating the poo poo out of them if they try to fight. The goal is to get arrests and convictions but cops being how they are, it doesn’t end that way nearly enough. I don’t know if it’s really solving the problem but it’s at least taking action.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Regalingualius posted:

Hell, just look at the incredibly recent report that the Southern Baptist Convention has had a sex abuse scandal on par with what the Catholic Church was up to in the US.

It’s the same thing, over and over again: religious people apparently prefer the appearance of normalcy over doing the right thing by holding the powerful and influential people in their community accountable.

the evangelicals being perverted rapists surprises me less then the catholic priests.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Anne Whateley posted:

It's not just religious people, it's Hollywood, it's academia, it's nerds, it's business, it's literally every subgroup. If you're thinking "it's those gross people over there, it's definitely not us!!" guaranteed it's your group too.

I think it's a bit worse with organized religion due to the implicit trust and access to children given to them by a lot of people. You do get similar dynamics in some areas like showbiz, but on the other hand it's not like every town in America has at least 2 or 3 Nickelodeon studios.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Anne Whateley posted:

It's not just religious people, it's Hollywood, it's academia, it's nerds, it's business, it's literally every subgroup. If you're thinking "it's those gross people over there, it's definitely not us!!" guaranteed it's your group too.

Ohh, absolutely; I just find it particularly galling when it’s groups of people who make it their whole business to go lording around about how holy and moral they are in public, when in reality they’re some of the nastiest bastards around.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

The Moon Monster posted:

I think it's a bit worse with organized religion due to the implicit trust and access to children given to them by a lot of people. You do get similar dynamics in some areas like showbiz, but on the other hand it's not like every town in America has 2 or 3 Nickelodeon studios.
No, but small towns in America have dance, gymnastics, and karate studios and bad news there too

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Anne Whateley posted:

No, but small towns in America have dance, gymnastics, and karate studios and bad news there too

Yeah, childrens' sports has had plenty of its own scandals like Sandusky and that gymnastics doctor.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Regalingualius posted:

Ohh, absolutely; I just find it particularly galling when it’s groups of people who make it their whole business to go lording around about how holy and moral they are in public, when in reality they’re some of the nastiest bastards around.

:emptyquote:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Ralph Hurley posted:

In recent years there has been a rise in vigilante groups, like an army of Chris Hansens out there decoying as underage kids on dating apps, getting the pedos to meet up and then doing everything from loudly humiliating them in Walmart and on their own social media, making them call their mom, wife or boss, to beating the poo poo out of them if they try to fight. The goal is to get arrests and convictions but cops being how they are, it doesn’t end that way nearly enough. I don’t know if it’s really solving the problem but it’s at least taking action.

A lot of these people have no interest in arrest and conviction, just shaming for views.

Then they let the pedo go.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Be careful checking out those groups on YouTube, etc. They tend to target obviously mentally ill or developmentally disabled people because they’re easier to catch and will make more of a scene when confronted. Plenty of them also resort to gay slurs whenever they get a guy that was trying to meet a young boy.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I bet they also ruin cases like Hansen did.

like yes the current system sucks , but letting non experts taint cases probably doesnt help. Also as we see from this threads VIP, and the the above stuff church and sports stuff, abusers are familiar community figures, stangers setting up meetups are a tiny % of real crimes.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

FrozenVent posted:

A lot of these people have no interest in arrest and conviction, just shaming for views.

Then they let the pedo go.

Nothing they get can actually be used in court either it's purely just for YouTube clicks. There is a ton of work that goes into actually investigating and setting up meets and investigators will have the perps name (sending warrants to their ISP) long before they even consider setting up a meet.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
A really dark thing the FBI has done is release screen caps of adults that are in csam videos in hopes someone will recognize them or the locations to help the cases. Even darker, they've released some audio clips in hopes again of someone recognizing the voice.

So there are ways to help that are within the realm of actually helping cases, but you can't get a partnership with raid shadow legends doing that.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
someone been talkin' 'bout galaga?

nashona
May 8, 2014

Though she be but little, she is fierce


The Moon Monster posted:

Yeah, childrens' sports has had plenty of its own scandals like Sandusky and that gymnastics doctor.

and let's not forget the Boy Scouts

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Ralph Hurley posted:

In recent years there has been a rise in vigilante groups, like an army of Chris Hansens out there decoying as underage kids on dating apps, getting the pedos to meet up and then doing everything from loudly humiliating them in Walmart and on their own social media, making them call their mom, wife or boss, to beating the poo poo out of them if they try to fight. The goal is to get arrests and convictions but cops being how they are, it doesn’t end that way nearly enough. I don’t know if it’s really solving the problem but it’s at least taking action.

What else is there, you know? The guy I posted above, I know he was reported to the police, because I loving reported him to the police. I know for a fact they knew, because I told them. He was even on probation at the time. That was back in november of 2016. Since that time he molested his own daughter and many other children. He still had custody of his children for years after I reported them. Other people reported him before that. He had arrests for related crimes. None of it mattered. The cops did nothing. All I can figure is that he snitched on some drug dealers or other pedophiles or something, I don't know. All I know is, I told them, and nothing happened. It really pisses me off to think too much about

nothing happened until other juggalos found out and it blew up and there were shitloads of other juggalos threatening to come kill him and then he got arrested lol.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




1. Defund the police
2. Fund the juggalos

Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av

Facebook Aunt posted:

1. Defund the police
2. Fund the juggalos

:hmmyes: There's a juggalo outreach program called Hatchet House in Buffalo, they do things like neighborhood cleanups and keep little juggalos busy and out of trouble

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

PhazonLink posted:

I bet they also ruin cases like Hansen did.

like yes the current system sucks , but letting non experts taint cases probably doesnt help. Also as we see from this threads VIP, and the the above stuff church and sports stuff, abusers are familiar community figures, stangers setting up meetups are a tiny % of real crimes.

People need to stop romanticizing vigilantism. It's basically just trading cops for worse cops most of the time. And then people doing this poo poo for attention on the internet just adds a whole new layer of diarrhea soup to it. A while back I remember reading a bunch of hosed up poo poo about Perverted Justice who worked with Chris Hansen on to Catch a Predator. Among other problems at one point they had a guy leave their organization because he found out they were using pictures of his 12 year old son as pedo bait on the internet. So when that guy tried to gently caress with them over it, the founder of the group catfished this dude and then tried to blackmail him with the transcripts of sexual conversations and nudes he sent to what he thought was a woman.

Oh and of course a whole bunch of people in those To Catch A Predator stings ended up not even being prosecuted for anything.

CPL593H fucked around with this message at 07:23 on May 24, 2022

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

whens the sentencing?

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:

CPL593H posted:

So when that guy tried to gently caress with them over it, the founder of the group catfished this dude and then tried to blackmail him with the transcripts of sexual conversations and nudes he sent to what he thought was a woman.


wait, so the dude got played by the same scam he was running basically lmao

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


its catfish all the way down

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SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


except at some point the catfish are also pedophiles

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