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Lol, yeah BLM definitely is buffed. I’ve only done casual matches because Ranked is a ghost town right now for some reason, but BLM’s are now pushing top of the damage charts.
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For eureka we have a group in TPT that is going through it. We started last week with a bunch of level ones and a handful of higher levels. Last night a bunch of those former level ones hit level 25. Ask about Krile Krew for more.
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also, if you're on primal, the two BA-centric discords (primal forays: https://discord.gg/ZPpCXJ7n and help lines: https://discord.gg/ZPpCXJ7n) are worth joining. Even if you're not at the BA part yet, primal forays has a channel for calling out big NMs. joining cassie prep is great if you need light for frosted crystals, and at the hydatos stage, you can make sure you're around during a BA run to get those 30 hydatos crystals from the BA support fate.
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May 24, 2022 16:23
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iPodschun posted:It took me about two weeks of making Eureka my main thing to do in game to finish the last zone. If you're skipping doing a weapon in favor of getting the armor that will save a bit of time on grinding, though you will have to unlock all of the Logos actions. That will take some research for how to unlock all of the actions and some money to buy all of the logograms. Iirc you do have to finish a relic weapon at least up through pagos to be able to buy the elemental armor at all, unless that's changed.
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iPodschun posted:It took me about two weeks of making Eureka my main thing to do in game to finish the last zone. If you're skipping doing a weapon in favor of getting the armor that will save a bit of time on grinding, though you will have to unlock all of the Logos actions. That will take some research for how to unlock all of the actions and some money to buy all of the logograms. also on logograms research, this was my bible: https://ffxiv-eureka.com/logograms i just bought the amount of logograms of each that they recommend and did them all at once. at the time it was around 3m for all the logograms i think? but i recouped that money pretty quick from selling stuff from eureka.
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I'm surprised at the lack of reaper tweaks. I don't think the job needs that much, but it definitely feels lacking compared to other melee jobs. It's not sticky compared to the classes with multiple gapcloser charges so finishing kills is tough, and it doesn't generate much AoE so pressuring the enemy team to generate opportunities isn't really a thing either. Yet if you're going to just tank then I still think the actual tanks are better at it. Hell, MNK and NIN are probably better at absorbing damage and living to tell about it. If the devs are looking at pure overall winrate, rather than winrate by rank, I suspect reaper looks better than it actually is. The difference between queuing for casual as reaper and queuing for crystal as reaper is stark. You can go on a ridiculous snowballing tear if enemy teams are bad at focus fire, but if the other team is heads-up then good luck lmao. LB becomes a way to cancel guard, draw aggro, and maybe duel (though I hesitate to even list the latter, because your pursuit tools suck so badly). Every success I've had is based on cancelling opposing guards so the rest of my team - the ones playing sticky classes with on-demand burst - can finish kills. e: Oh, and your peel is nonexistent so you can't even adjust your tactical role based on composition or situation. Corbeau fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 24, 2022 |
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May 24, 2022 16:30
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Zack Ater posted:Iirc you do have to finish a relic weapon at least up through pagos to be able to buy the elemental armor at all, unless that's changed.  ) I went up to a Pyros weapon because those are cool as hell then skipped a Hydatos weapon altogether and funneled my crystals into Elemental Armor, which cut out a good bit of grinding at least.
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This will make Frontline an even bigger shitshow, not that anyone at S-E cares about anything other than CC
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I do FL every day and don't give one flying gently caress how this impacts it. It's too big and chaotic for it to actually matter.
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Wonder if Black Mage is gonna be as dumb as Summoner in Frontline now after these changes. That said, I still feel like White Mage is the real problem child Corbeau posted:I'm surprised at the lack of reaper tweaks. I don't think the job needs that much, but it definitely feels lacking compared to other melee jobs. It's not sticky compared to the classes with multiple gapcloser charges so finishing kills is tough, and it doesn't generate much AoE so pressuring the enemy team to generate opportunities isn't really a thing either. Yet if you're going to just tank then I still think the actual tanks are better at it. Hell, MNK and NIN are probably better at absorbing damage and living to tell about it. Reaper gets tons and tons of sustain from Arcane Circle and Harvest Moon - way more than Monk, maybe less than Ninja, but Ninja has to sacrifice damage or CC to use Meisui or Huton. You just have a really tight burst (You need to dump Grim Swathe, Gibbet, Gallows, Soul Slice, Harvest Moon, and Plentiful Harvest into Death Warrant) which is unrealistic for a class whose gap closer can only move it a fixed distance rather than repeatedly and directly to the target (Monk, Samurai) or wherever it pleases (Ninja). I think the big problems with Reaper are Death Warrant and Plentiful Harvest. It's unreasonable to expect "Wildfire but you have to be in melee range of a single player the whole time" to do much, given how mobile almost every class is in CC, and especially when considering the volcano map, where there's tons and tons of corners to LoS and kite around. I've hit some pretty nasty Death Warrants, but they've basically all been on oblivious players in casual. Plentiful Harvest on the other hand ties up a lot of Reaper's AoE potential into a skill that has a longer cooldown than your limit break because the upper limit of its damage is so high and it makes your limit break charge faster. Imo, they should replace the Death Warrant button with Harvest Moon. To compensate for the lost damage, cut the cooldown of Soul Slice charges by ~5s, and increase the potency of the melee combo, Gibbet, and Gallows slightly. Then with Plentiful Harvest, remove the Limit Break-boosting effect entirely, increase the lower end of the damage and lower the upper end of the damage, and then reduce the cooldown to like 20 seconds instead of loving 60. Maybe add another way to get Immortal Sacrifice charges if it's still not good enough. If Reaper still feels lousy after that they could consider doing something like changing the Heavy on Grim Swathe to a Bind or maybe adding a CC effect to one of Reaper's other skills. Chillgamesh fucked around with this message at 17:19 on May 24, 2022 |
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May 24, 2022 17:14
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What makes summoner problematic in frontlines is the ult being an extremely large AOE whose usage is easy to coordinate with other people on your team. Even with the buffs I don't think blm really competes in that niche at all
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I assumed that Frontline would have gone into 'Coming Soon' mode like Rival Wings if it weren't for the roulette for it existing.
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SettingSun posted:I assumed that Frontline would have gone into 'Coming Soon' mode like Rival Wings if it weren't for the roulette for it existing. My lukewarm take, there should be a "Crystal Conflict" Roulette and a "Rival Wings" Roulette, and frontlines should go the way of the Feast.
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May 24, 2022 17:34
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Machinist already seems pretty good to me in pvp and is my best class, so I welcome some of this news.
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Cleretic posted:Yeah, I keep being told that tank mitigation and self-healing outstrips damage in expert dungeons. And yet somehow every time I heal an expert dungeon, I run dry of cooldowns every single pull. As GNB the first double pull in dead ends is absolutely brutal no matter what mit I seem to use, and I don't know if it's just because that dungeon downsyncs you to 570 or what.
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Madmarker posted:My lukewarm take, there should be a "Crystal Conflict" Roulette and a "Rival Wings" Roulette, and frontlines should go the way of the Feast. Tie the seal rock set to CC wins 
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May 24, 2022 18:00
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Madmarker posted:My lukewarm take, there should be a "Crystal Conflict" Roulette and a "Rival Wings" Roulette, and frontlines should go the way of the Feast. I agree, except keep the Frontlines roulette. It's a chaotic mess, but it's a fun chaotic mess for a decent amount of people.
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So long as the frontlines roulette is 24v24v24 it kind of has to be the only PvP roulette available because otherwise getting people for it would be probably somewhat slower. Consider how long it can take to fill out Alliance raids sometimes and that’s 1/3rd of the needed players. But I feel like that should maybe be encouragement to move away from 24v24v24.
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More than the roulette prizes, what I like about frontlines is that you can actually play with your friends in this MMO game. I feel like that would be a big loss in an all CC world
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really we just need some kind of upfront queue for rival wings like they gave frontlines when they introduced daily challenge. it's tucked so far back that most people would just ignore it, and even if you have to go back there now to queue for CC no one's gonna jump into a 48 person queue over a 10 man
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the rival wings maps should just go into the rotation with the frontlines maps and also they should remove borderland ruins
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Huh, I got both the "win a total of 1 million MGP" achievements from the regular and from the mini cactpot this week.
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FL is good for when I want to pvp but also don't want to feel super responsible for playing like a pro gamer. Also learning button flow/class rhythm. "Just use the casual CC queue" hahaha what's it like to be normal, you bastard.
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Casual and ranked cc have no differences to me, exact same experience. FL is the place to turn off brain
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I play on an older laptop, so I just try to keep my head down and hope that I don’t run into a melee ball where I can’t even load in half of the people that are killing me in Frontlines
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Chillgamesh posted:Imo, they should replace the Death Warrant button with Harvest Moon... I'd be down. Death Warrant really just does not work with the way the game is constructed.
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Lord_Magmar posted:So long as the frontlines roulette is 24v24v24 it kind of has to be the only PvP roulette available because otherwise getting people for it would be probably somewhat slower. Consider how long it can take to fill out Alliance raids sometimes and that’s 1/3rd of the needed players. Not everyone enjoys small team combat. I hate it with the fury of a thousand suns and am glad they still offer a broken stupid large scale place for me to go die a lot in.
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Tekopo posted:There's probably tanks in EXDR that still don't use Arm's Length for mit, even though it's one of the better dungeon mits. There are tanks in EXDR who don't use any abilities for mit at all, and they aren't even that uncommon.
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Mister Olympus posted:find the role that is the most annoying to you to see done badly, then queue as that to inflict the same pain on others ftfy
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So with the changes today, what is the tier ranking for CC looking like? Have dancers been able to get out of the gutter?
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Just play what feels good, hth
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Zil posted:So with the changes today, what is the tier ranking for CC looking like? Have dancers been able to get out of the gutter? Pretty sure it's BLM -> the same prior tiers.
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Zil posted:So with the changes today, what is the tier ranking for CC looking like? Have dancers been able to get out of the gutter? Dancer is a weird one, turns out in the (very small) competitive pvp scene dancer is currently a top tier pick, possible THE top tier pick
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Mainwaring posted:Dancer is a weird one, turns out in the (very small) competitive pvp scene dancer is currently a top tier pick, possible THE top tier pick So all the YouTubers that put dancer as dead last are just bad at the game then? Or is it you need extreme coordination for the job to work well?
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hazardousmouse posted:Just play what feels good, hth winning feels good
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Zil posted:So all the YouTubers that put dancer as dead last are just bad at the game then? Or is it you need extreme coordination for the job to work well? Extreme coordination. It all resolves around mass cc'ing the enemy with dancer lb and then dropping a bunch of other aoe and lbs on them to wipe them out.
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Zil posted:So all the YouTubers that put dancer as dead last are just bad at the game then? Or is it you need extreme coordination for the job to work well? YouTubers solo queue.
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Mainwaring posted:Extreme coordination. It all resolves around mass cc'ing the enemy with dancer lb and then dropping a bunch of other aoe and lbs on them to wipe them out. Are the tippy-top players just mutually agreeing this is the strat and holding all their burst for Contradance when they see they have a Dancer on their team? In my experience even at Crystal I don't see a whole lot of coordination, but I didn't play much ranked after I hit it.
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