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Screaming Idiot posted:I always get nervous when I see Roman/Greek inspired stuff because of how often it's used as a dogewhistle for AFAIK lightning bolts were a pretty common Roman design historically, so they aren't necessarily being misused. Not exactly definitive though.
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Eh that's not as sus as you're making out. Romans are pretty fash but that's more historical goofiness than dog whistle.
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Lord Hypnostache posted:I don't like orcs being uniform, but I love orcs being disguised, so it's a thumbs up from me! Well isn't this your lucky day??   
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That Space Marine painting is not really Orky enough TBH
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darkwasthenight posted:Well isn't this your lucky day?? I'm a tank, I'm a tank, I'm a tank
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Iron Crowned posted:That Space Marine painting is not really Orky enough TBH That's what makes it extra kunning. They'll never guess it's an ork.
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darkwasthenight posted:That's what makes it extra kunning. They'll never guess it's an ork. 
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Iron Crowned posted:That Space Marine painting is not really Orky enough TBH Ork? What are you talking about? That's your archetypical Ultramarine!
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That Orky Trojan Rhino is great.
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Screaming Idiot posted:I always get nervous when I see Roman/Greek inspired stuff because of how often it's used as a dogewhistle for I also feel this way when people go hard into Vikings/space wolfs
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Iron Crowned posted:That Space Marine painting is not really Orky enough TBH that's coz a grot did it
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Ugleb posted:AFAIK lightning bolts were a pretty common Roman design historically, so they aren't necessarily being misused. Not exactly definitive though.   I don't think we can equate these lightning bolts with SS poo poo, it is it's own thing independent of that. Spanish Manlove posted:Romans are pretty fash but that's more historical goofiness than dog whistle. I mean, that's where "fascism" as a word comes from, the "fasces" symbol of office/authority of a lictor:  But I wouldn't equate that with auto-Naziism.
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The fascists stole symbols from all over pre-christian europe. That said, I feel that a pretend army modelled on the roman legions sets of way fewer nazi alarms than one modelled on vikings or other "barbarians".
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darkwasthenight posted:Well isn't this your lucky day?? Ian Wood, the guy redoing third edition Epic is doing the same thing in 6mm. He also made a bunch of kommandos running around with the old style Falcon gravtanks above their heads. https://twitter.com/wartrader/status/1514205916060700672
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Honestly I am more suspicious of anyone who plays vikings/space wolf armies then people who wants fantasy or historical romans. Now if someone wants fantasy/historical spartans then my alarm bells get set of in an instant. Btw Conquest from para bellum has some fun undead romans/byzantines line for those interested (I mean soldiers and priests look cool - ghosts/cultists are generic as poo poo)
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I hate when people can paint 6mm far, far better than I can paint 28mm
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Scratch Monkey posted:I hate when people can paint
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darkwasthenight posted:Well isn't this your lucky day?? I love these! NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:Ian Wood, the guy redoing third edition Epic is doing the same thing in 6mm. He also made a bunch of kommandos running around with the old style Falcon gravtanks above their heads. I love these! And to keep the good vibes going, here's some more!                   
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Orks lootin anything and everything is my favourite part of the 40k community, and this one is the best.
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Lord Hypnostache posted:I love these! ooooooooooowns
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That necron croissant turned into the yellow moon is such a good fit that I didn't even recognize it for what it was until I started at it.
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Ugleb posted:AFAIK lightning bolts were a pretty common Roman design historically, so they aren't necessarily being misused. Not exactly definitive though. You guys are probably putting more thought into the default shield design that comes on a lot of random Roman historical minis than the painter did.
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Are Chaos Orks a real thing? That would be awesome
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Scratch Monkey posted:Are Chaos Orks a real thing? That would be awesome Officially? No. But don't let that stop you.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Are Chaos Orks a real thing? That would be awesome IIRC no ork has worshiped a chaos god. Occasionally exposure to the warp or chaos magic will mutate an ork, but the other orks pretty much instantly sniff out that they're "not orky" and murder them. I think something about the passive psychic powers of orks and their sheer stubbornness that keeps them safe from the corruption of chaos.
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kzin602 posted:You guys are probably putting more thought into the default shield design that comes on a lot of random Roman historical minis than the painter did. I was trying to think of a reference that definitely would pre-date any 20th century influence, the ancient stonework example covers it nicely. I do not think that everyone with a historical or orkish interest is a closet fascist.
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Covermeinsunshine posted:Also there is little chaos can tempt orcs with orks can have little a chaos, as a fight
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There are a few instances of khorne orks in the lore, but I don't know if they are still considered canon.
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chin up everything sucks posted:There are a few instances of khorne orks in the lore, but I don't know if they are still considered canon. Yeah orks crave combat so I can't see why khorne wouldn't appeal
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Ugleb posted:I was trying to think of a reference that definitely would pre-date any 20th century influence, the ancient stonework example covers it nicely. No of course not. It's just that sometimes nazis are super into the same poo poo and it can be hard to seperate the fash from the regular human beings
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Scratch Monkey posted:Yeah orks crave combat so I can't see why khorne wouldn't appeal Orks like fightin', they aren't blood-mad crazies. But if any god was gonna sneakily influence them, it would probably be Khorne. Maybe tzeench could trick them into thinking he's Gork (or Mork).
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Scratch Monkey posted:Yeah orks crave combat so I can't see why khorne wouldn't appeal They already get to fight as much as they like.
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Plus Gork is too brutally cunning for the Chaos God's. And Mork is too cunningly brutal. Or maybe it's the other way around.
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Improbable Lobster posted:No of course not. It's just that sometimes nazis are super into the same poo poo and it can be hard to seperate the fash from the regular human beings At this point though Nazi's are into all kinds of poo poo. Some of them are pretty heavy into MLP, but I'm not going to give the stinkeye to an army painted with rainbows and glitter. One of the only good things I can say about Nazi shitheads is that they're really good at identifying themselves. If there's nothing else suspicious about an army it's pretty safe to give somebody the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes a cloud is just a cloud.
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There's canonically a Waaagh of Orks in Khorne's realm. They heard about daemons and went invading the Eye via Cadia to find a proper scrap. The Waaagh ran over a bunch of chaos worlds until they all finally got slaughtered and then big K resurrected them in his realm where they could spend eternity battling with his favourites. There's always new Orks sporing and daemons spawning every night so the fight never ends. They don't worship Khorne or anything wussy like that though; a good scrap is it's own reward.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Are Chaos Orks a real thing? That would be awesome I think this picture is the only canonical appearance of Chaos Orks. I think it's from 3rd or 4th edition. 
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Lord Hypnostache posted:I think this picture is the only canonical appearance of Chaos Orks. I think it's from 3rd or 4th edition. yeah thats from the Witch Hunter's codex
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darkwasthenight posted:There's canonically a Waaagh of Orks in Khorne's realm. So Khorne created a paradise for creatures that don't even worship him. Nice.
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