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A bit too weird and not west enough IMHO. Roguelikes are a plague on gaming.
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American McGay posted:A bit too weird and not west enough IMHO. You're not wrong but I don't think Weird West is a roguelike. Isn't it like a kind of immersive sim from a top down perspective?
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May 26, 2022 23:37
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American McGay posted:A bit too weird and not west enough IMHO. I know this is a very stupid question but I've googled it and looked around and I'm still not clear. What exactly is a "roguelike"? It seems it's card battle games to stuff like RPGs to pretty much anything where you level up and upgrade yourself and equipment, both long and short games. ELI5 please.
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May 26, 2022 23:48
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Ahh you're right, I was thinking of West of Dead. Never played Weird West sorry.
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May 26, 2022 23:50
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I really wanted to like Weird West, since I like Western theming, I like that top-down isometric style of gameplay etc, but I just found the controls on console way too clunky and annoying. Getting shot to death while your character slooooowly pivots their crosshair in a full 180 arc was frustrating as hell and it happened a few times in the first handful of levels. Maybe it gets better, or is better on PC? I gave up on it
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May 26, 2022 23:58
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American McGay posted:Roguelikes are a plague on gaming. play something else
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May 27, 2022 00:25
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1glitch0 posted:I know this is a very stupid question but I've googled it and looked around and I'm still not clear. What exactly is a "roguelike"? It seems it's card battle games to stuff like RPGs to pretty much anything where you level up and upgrade yourself and equipment, both long and short games. ELI5 please. My (potentially wrong) understanding is that roguelike generally just means a game with permadeath, but usually has an upgrade system outside of that. So if you've played a game like Hades or Slay the Spire, dying means you have to start over from the beginning (rather than the nearest checkpoint). It sounds frustrating, but it's balanced against other game systems that make you stronger each time around. Each run in Slay the Spire you'll unlock a couple of more powerful cards; each run in Hades you accumulate currencies that boost your stats etc. The other main point is that roguelikes generally have randomly- or procedurally-generated levels/dungeons, unlike an RPG where the world is the same each time through. Naturally, there's a 10,000 word wikipedia article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike
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May 27, 2022 00:28
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External Organs posted:Can't wait to see what dumb name they give this one X-Stream Alternatively: the Xbox Series P (because it streams, you see)
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May 27, 2022 00:31
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webmeister posted:My (potentially wrong) understanding is that roguelike generally just means a game with permadeath, but usually has an upgrade system outside of that. Roguelikes are based on the structure of a truly ancient video game called Rogue, which pioneered the key genre conventions of randomly generated dungeons and permadeath with no progression stored between runs. Roguelites are called that because they offer some sort of persistent progression that makes successive runs less challenging. And then rougelikes are when you're bad at spelling.
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May 27, 2022 00:33
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acksplode posted:And then rougelikes are when you're bad at spelling. No those are games where you mascara a bunch of creatures.
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May 27, 2022 00:36
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Vampire Survivors is an awesome rougelike.
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May 27, 2022 00:41
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the best roguelike. It's free, too.
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May 27, 2022 00:42
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Vampire Survivors is an arcade game with progression.
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May 27, 2022 00:43
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I haven't seen a rogue-like in years. e: why isn't DoomRL on xbox? Sterf fucked around with this message at 00:47 on May 27, 2022 |
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May 27, 2022 00:44
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Roguelikes are also run based. I think people forget that part and focus on permadeath
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May 27, 2022 01:05
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Personally I love platformers, like Assassin's Creed
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May 27, 2022 01:08
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American McGay posted:Roguelikes are a plague on gaming. Someone hasn't played Hades, altough that's a lite
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Disposable Scud posted:So what was the final word on Weird West? A solid ok.
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May 27, 2022 01:17
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I finally have my main XBL account on my series X
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May 27, 2022 01:21
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Playing the new Sniper Elite 5 game on Game Pass, I feel like Rebellion has kind of lost the plot on its own series. You know how in Metal Gear Solid 4 and onward they put in a poo poo ton of incredibly detailed lists of modifications for guns, as well as lists of guns, and then if you actually used any of the guns you got penalized because hey dipshit this is a *stealth* game? That seems like what SE is now, except instead of getting penalized it's just made entirely pointless because any mouse aim user worth their shot can snap off headshots at the cyclical rates of their guns regardless of what that gun actually is. Yeah SE has always been like that, but why put all this weird poo poo in then Also while the axis sniper mode sounds fun probably 70% of the time the enemy just restarts to kick you out. Not too surprising when the general tactic is to see what blew up last and then shoot anything that comes out of the trench wearing a turtleneck. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 27, 2022 |
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May 27, 2022 02:33
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The SE devs raised the price of Zombie Army 4's season passes so they're still 30 bucks while on sale.
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May 27, 2022 02:43
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1glitch0 posted:I know this is a very stupid question but I've googled it and looked around and I'm still not clear. What exactly is a "roguelike"? It seems it's card battle games to stuff like RPGs to pretty much anything where you level up and upgrade yourself and equipment, both long and short games. ELI5 please. For a while it was fairly easy to point at roguelike games and say, "This is what a roguelike is," (Nethack, Angband, ADOM, Dungeon Crawl, etc.) but the term has gotten really muddied up over the past decade or so when developers realized that procedural generation could save them a lot of time. The main thing now, I think, is just having randomized environments and items; a run-based structure where you're expected to run through the game repeatedly; and starting from zero whenever you start another run. That definition can now apply to various different game genres, so it's become less a specific game type and more just a set of design features to be incorporated into some other type of game.
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May 27, 2022 03:33
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Weird West was neat but I found myself battling the controls and it's systems and after a couple hours I never returned to it. If it piques your interest I think it's worth an install, it does some stuff pretty well.
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May 27, 2022 03:38
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i like roguelikes and roguelites as well but there's definitely too many games doing it, and a lot of them just throw it in because you have to be good at your job to make good level design but if you make some generator that is at best average, you can just pretend like it's an intentional part of the difficulty and not a sign that you're lazy.
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Disposable Scud posted:So what was the final word on Weird West? Usually some variation of 'The End'.
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May 27, 2022 04:22
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I still really like roguelites because I've skipped all but a handful of the most critically acclaimed or goon acclaimed ones.
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May 27, 2022 04:25
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Yeah sure let me just play some levels generated by a computer algorithm and not expertly handcrafted by a Japanese salary man. That sounds real great.
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May 27, 2022 04:31
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1529971953477373953 Anyone else get free Xbox money? I checked my messages and I did.
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May 27, 2022 05:11
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Rageaholic posted:https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1529971953477373953 I did and this is the first time I've gotten one.
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May 27, 2022 05:21
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Yeah I finally got one this time. The message came through on my Xbox app on the phone.
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May 27, 2022 05:25
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Do not pass on Trek to Yomi, this game is extremely good.
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May 27, 2022 07:01
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American McGay posted:Yeah sure let me just play some levels generated by a computer algorithm and not expertly handcrafted by a Japanese salary man. That sounds real great. It can be. Fly Ricky fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 27, 2022 |
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May 27, 2022 07:49
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MikeRabsitch posted:Weird West was neat but I found myself battling the controls and it's systems and after a couple hours I never returned to it. If it piques your interest I think it's worth an install, it does some stuff pretty well. It's definitely a PC game. It's pretty good there, but there's just too much competition to justify the investment 
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May 27, 2022 07:55
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acksplode posted:Roguelikes are based on the structure of a truly ancient video game called Rogue, which pioneered the key genre conventions of randomly generated dungeons and permadeath with no progression stored between runs. Roguelites are called that because they offer some sort of persistent progression that makes successive runs less challenging. And then rougelikes are when you're bad at spelling. Thank you for clarifying that both things sound loving awful.
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May 27, 2022 08:44
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I said come in! posted:Do not pass on Trek to Yomi, this game is extremely good. I liked it for about an hour. I was mostly impressed with the visual style, very cinematic. The gameplay wore out on me pretty quickly though.
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Sterf posted:e: why isn't DoomRL on xbox?
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It's Pac-Man day
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elf help book posted:It's Pac-Man day Oh poo poo
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John F Bennett posted:I liked it for about an hour. I was mostly impressed with the visual style, very cinematic. The gameplay wore out on me pretty quickly though. My recommendation is that everyone plays Trek To Yomi for around 2 hours and quits.
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