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I like the nuanced they're introducing with Arrako. It's not as clear cut as "warrior culture bathed in blood" and I like that in the right circumstances yielding has honour.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Arrako vs the gods has a lot of legs on its own. I do wonder what would happen if Thor had a reason to show up on Arrako.
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Thor wouldn't pretend he was one of their gods. And he'd probably enjoy fighting and hanging out. They'd probably think he was fine.
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May 26, 2022 08:18
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Codependent Poster posted:Thor wouldn't pretend he was one of their gods. And he'd probably enjoy fighting and hanging out. They'd probably think he was fine.
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May 26, 2022 08:54
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Awww, David being a bro in defiance of Xavier. Good man!
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I felt sorry for Cain thinking that Chuck did something cool for once in his nerdy bald life, only to find out it was goodguy Kurt instead Do we have record of humans who live on Krakoa? The only two I can think of are Northstar's husband and Cain (who might actually commute)
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OnimaruXLR posted:I felt sorry for Cain thinking that Chuck did something cool for once in his nerdy bald life, only to find out it was goodguy Kurt instead Technically Jubilee's kid for awhile.
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How Wonderful! posted:Technically Jubilee's kid for awhile. Do dragons count as humans now?
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Endless Mike posted:Do dragons count as humans now? Dragon Shogo lives in Otherworld, human Shogo lives on Krakoa.
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danbanana posted:I didn't pick this up because I didn't love WoX but... Are they bad at their jobs? Because if they are, then they might be cops. So far, they don't seem to be. And they make a point that, even when a case seems cut and dry like a mutant murdering humans, they try to get the full picture of what happened and why before turning them over to the Quiet Counsel for judgement. I was more noting how they work out of a station, the comic opens with the "chief" handing out cases, the partner dynamic between Juggernaut and ForgetMeNot, etc. Codependent Poster posted:Thor wouldn't pretend he was one of their gods. And he'd probably enjoy fighting and hanging out. They'd probably think he was fine. Not only would Thor not seek worship from them, but he'd also be willing to yield if he did lose.
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They seem to be trying to do what cops claim to do, and are often presented as doing in dramatic narrative, but often only do in reality under protest or when compelled, i.e. "solve crimes and investigate problems." Considering they seem to be about ten guys and one of those guys is David Haller, who I believe has the same general power set as God, this can probably hold up until Legion gets tired of it. After that it's on Kurt, who is considerably less powerful than God. Narrative spoilers for ish #9!  
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danbanana posted:I didn't pick this up because I didn't love WoX but... Are they bad at their jobs? Because if they are, then they might be cops. Did someone say why X-Factor as Krakoan cops didn't keep going?
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The X-man cometh posted:Did someone say why X-Factor as Krakoan cops didn't keep going? X-Factor was more Krakoan CSI, with a specific focus on confirming deaths before signing off on resurrection. I think the organization is still doing that in universe, it just doesn't have a comic following along
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The idea that Orchis is sending Nimrods out to gently caress up the Phalanx is a hell of a thing to drop in there.
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glitchwraith posted:Not only would Thor not seek worship from them, but he'd also be willing to yield if he did lose. I don't know, I think he might take offense that they literally just killed another God of Thunder. I'd imagine that might irk a guy. An honor among comrades kinda thing. He would be willing to yield though.
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Open Marriage Night posted:The idea that Orchis is sending Nimrods out to gently caress up the Phalanx is a hell of a thing to drop in there. Now that you mention it, I'd be excited to hear the pseudobabble explanation for how the robot can fight the contagious robot without being infected.
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Wanderer posted:Now that you mention it, I'd be excited to hear the pseudobabble explanation for how the robot can fight the contagious robot without being infected. Nimrod's thing is that he loving adapts to everything, right?
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I'm a little confused, wasn't the whole end game of ORCHIS/Moira in HoX/PoX to merge with the Phalanx? Doesn't murdering them run counter to that?
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TwoPair posted:I'm a little confused, wasn't the whole end game of ORCHIS/Moira in HoX/PoX to merge with the Phalanx? Doesn't murdering them run counter to that? It may not work that way but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be their thinking!
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TwoPair posted:I'm a little confused, wasn't the whole end game of ORCHIS/Moira in HoX/PoX to merge with the Phalanx? Doesn't murdering them run counter to that? How else do you stop Terminator Warlock Logan???
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The whole timeline thing is definitely very complicated and I'm not sure if any of it might even still affect the current storyline anymore now that Hickman's indeterminately gone, but the plan to merge with the Phalanx came from the way way waaaay futuristic post-humans who really don't have anything to do with Orchis and maybe not even Nimrod at that point. If I recall correctly, the timeline where Nimrod took over was actually a different one than the one where Moira and Logan were in that far future with the blue people wanting to merge. Neither Moira or Orchis in the current day have any plans to merge with the Phalanx. I guess?
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Skwirl posted:Nimrod's thing is that he loving adapts to everything, right? I think that's Shiva but it might also be Nimrod. gently caress, I haven't thought about Shiva in decades.
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I think Nimrod is just a really cool robot. He probably can adapt to a lot of stuff, but just because he's really smart, it's not a particular power he has. His deal is just basically cogito ergo sum.
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Hey, out of curiosity where does the thread title come from?
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Hey, out of curiosity where does the thread title come from? 
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Also Magus isnt phalanx, he's technarchy.
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Oh. Ah…hmmm. Well looks like good old stupid comics fun at least.  Also I’m guessing the joke for the rest of y’all is that at no time has this been demonstrated? Or was there some actual big story between 1995(ish) and the Krakoa era that I’ve never heard about? As a side note I used to think that that lovely band was the worst thing to use the name Tesla. Fuckin’ Elon, piece of poo poo
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh. Ah…hmmm. Well looks like good old stupid comics fun at least. There was Mammomax, a character about whom I remember nothing other than that he was an elephant man and showed up probably mid-2000s-ish.
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Mammomax and Teslelephant are two distinct and wonderful pachyderms.
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Mammomax sounds like he probably showed up in Excalibur as an Animal Dimension equivalent of Micromax
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For people who don't know the history, Nicola Tesla among other thing invented alternating current electricity and Edison who claimed he invented direct current wanted to show people how dangerous alternating current was, executed an elephant that had killed a trainer at a circus (the elephant was horribly abused and lashed out) using alternating current. Everything you plug into a wall uses alternating current.
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Yeah, Exactly. I fuckin’ love this actually But for reals Mammomax sounds like Master Mold got weird ideas and went to town on a mammograph machine E: what does 198 mean in relation to X stuff?
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Yeah, Exactly. I fuckin’ love this actually
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Oh. Is this before or after they started all that retcon poo poo with her not being a mutant?
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh. Is this before or after they started all that retcon poo poo with her not being a mutant? It was not a very nice thing and I believe the reason there were any mutants left at all, in-universe there, is that Dr. Strange did some kind of half-formed counterspell.
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Ugh. I’m really glad I skipped over slightly less than 30 yrs of X-Men. I did read HoX/pox and a bit of marauders. Really need to get some trades or try and renew MU. Sounds like it’s mostly good now. So was there like an official list of the 198 or did that not last long enough to matter?
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Ugh. I’m really glad I skipped over slightly less than 30 yrs of X-Men. I did read HoX/pox and a bit of marauders. Really need to get some trades or try and renew MU. Sounds like it’s mostly good now. They walked back the 198 number almost immediately and starting saying "a couple hundred or maybe a thousand," but it was basically any character you've heard of is on the list, with the exception of Professor X (got his powers back almost immediately), Magneto (got his powers back almost immediately), Jubilee (was depowered for a shockingly long time), and Danielle Moonstar (depowered all the way until the recent status quo). There was also some stuff about Wanda's spell depowering mutants in every single alternate dimension that never came up again. and depowering dead mutants, which was a plot point that came up with some regularity. Despite it being barely anyone you've heard of, Decimation was effective as a shocking moment, I guess, to the extent that when new mutants starting appearing after AVX it felt like a triumph.
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Ohhhhh, so this wasn’t one of the straight mutant genocides this was the de-power thing, gotcha. Is this why Wanda is still hated? Hasn’t she been reintroduced lately to atone for this or whatever? Sorry if I’m asking dumb questions but I read this thread and realize just how complicated this poo poo is. When I stopped reading everything monthly was just after the Claremont era (which was a couple years earlier than I thought) I still would occasionally pick up an x book but just couldn’t be bothered anymore. So I was around eleven and and had read, one way or another the entire thirty years or so before that and am now realizing it’s been another thirty years of comics and am daunted about jumping back in. Thanks all y’all for being patient!
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