RareAcumen posted:

Gen Z and Gen Alpha are slaves to marketing. If you simply make lots of memes of something, they'll buy any product you shove out the door no matter how much it sucks.

marjorie posted:

Haha, hot take that the generations that currently contain literal children are subject to marketing ploys. It definitely wasn't the case that when we were children we wanted whatever garbage food\toy was being advertised non-stop during sunday morning cartoons\after school Nickelodeon programs\etc...

sassassin posted:

It's always worth pointing out when people are falling for advertising. A lot of people genuinely can't tell, or think that doing something ironically isn't identical to doing it sincerely. Morbius flopped and now Disney want to make it some "so bad it's good" cult thing. "People just be making memes" and participating in an organised viral marketing campaign.

marjorie posted:

Haha, hot take that the generations that currently contain literal children are subject to marketing ploys. It definitely wasn't the case that when we were children we wanted whatever garbage food\toy was being advertised non-stop during sunday morning cartoons\after school Nickelodeon programs\etc...

freeedr posted:

I wonder exactly who controls my brain since I don’t watch tv or use social media. I guess it’s… you…? All of you?

gently caress

freeedr posted:

I wonder exactly who controls my brain since I don’t watch tv or use social media. I guess it’s… you…? All of you?

gently caress

Spanish Manlove posted:

No. Even suicide has been cooped by gun lobbyists and big razor blade.

bike tory posted:

Something's off about this post. Who the gently caress are you shilling for here buddy??

sassassin posted:

It's always worth pointing out when people are falling for advertising. A lot of people genuinely can't tell, or think that doing something ironically isn't identical to doing it sincerely. Morbius flopped and now Disney want to make it some "so bad it's good" cult thing. "People just be making memes" and participating in an organised viral marketing campaign.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Worst case there's either a Morbius sequel, or a Netflix Morbius reboot, where they try to show how hip and roll-with-the-punches they are and Morbius says "it's morbin time" while mugging at the camera

LifeSunDeath posted:

Just rewatched Lord of War, and Leto's performance was groundbreaking. I cannot wait to see this Morbius everyone keeps praising.

LifeSunDeath posted:

Just rewatched Lord of War, and Leto's performance was groundbreaking. I cannot wait to see this Morbius everyone keeps praising.

Cat Hatter posted:

I forgot he was in Lord of War to the point I had to think for a minute to even remember who he played.

Serak posted:

There's this thing (and I want nothing more to get back to memes, and I am doing the opposite of that with this post) among the conspiracy minded that is they understood the ideas of 'who benefits' and 'follow the money' but decided to throw out every other piece of reasoning in getting to the bottom of 'why a thing happened'

Therefore if a thing happens that might benefit Sony (Morbius memes becoming popular, even if it doesn't actually translate to more people people seeing the movie), then it follows logically that Sony was the architect of that happening.

Like convicting some of murder on motive alone.

RareAcumen posted:

The Anime Liker posted:

Azhais posted:

RareAcumen posted:

sassassin posted:

It's always worth pointing out when people are falling for advertising. A lot of people genuinely can't tell, or think that doing something ironically isn't identical to doing it sincerely. Morbius flopped and now Disney want to make it some "so bad it's good" cult thing. "People just be making memes" and participating in an organised viral marketing campaign.

OwlFancier posted:

We have fully internalized the carceral mentality when we restrict our memeing out of fear of astroturfing. In the search of authenticity we have compromised our own natural impulse and subordinated it to the artificiality of ideology.

OwlFancier posted:

We have fully internalized the carceral mentality when we restrict our memeing out of fear of astroturfing. In the search of authenticity we have compromised our own natural impulse and subordinated it to the artificiality of ideology.

bike tory posted:

Fool that you are, you forget that the search for authenticity is already subordinate to ideology. Without ideology we have no way to understand what is authentic; these so called "natural" impulses, our very desires and drives themselves, have their roots not only in our biology but also our ideology.

Why else is my body's desire for sustenance, surely one of the most base, life-sustaining drives, sated by this Monster Energy Ultra Paradise™? Intellectually I know that the Zero Sugar formulation of this smooth fruity kick contains none of the nutrients, minerals or calories that my body needs. It is because I have already been taught to desire it.

In the same way, Morbius initially fears morbin' time. He rejects his abilities, refusing to morb on those guys because he naively rejects the monster he sees himself becoming in pursuit of what he believes to be more "authentic" humanity.

I know critics have reacted negatively to the cameo of Slovenian communist and pop philosopher Slavoj Zizek, but I actually think his intervention in the film is brilliantly placed. His training montage with Morbius sets Morbius on the critical path that leads him to stop questioning how he knows it's morbin' time, and to simply understand when it's morbin' time.

This is what gives so much weight to that scene when he finally says the line and morbs on those guys. He has accepted himself for an authentic ideological being. He can strive to shape and control his ideology, and thereby he can shape and control the morb within. I find this really inspiring, and I think this conception of ideological authenticity is something we could all benefit from, at the end of the day.

Kuros posted: