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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Clipless is useful if you want to do anything that doesn't require a hand on the handlebars Wow, I'm the exact opposite. I've ridden a city bike daily my entire life and probably ride hands-free more than otherwise, but I'm still not nearly as comfortable riding hands-free while clipped in on my road bike. Granted, some of it has to do with sitting less upright on the latter, but being clipped in definitely adds to the nervousness
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jetz0r posted:Get clipless pedals, or plan on getting clipless pedals. You can do flats for shorter rides, to get used to the bike, or commutes where you don't want to wear goofy shoes. But if your goal is to be spending hours on your road bike, you will absolutely want to have clipless pedals. It's such a huge improvement over having your feet slip around or come off the pedals at high cadence. Nothing to do with racing or fitting in, they make the experience of pedaling on those long rides easier and better. No way do your feet slip around on flats if you've spent as much money on flat shoes/pedals as you would with clipless. Decent flat shoes and pedals it's actually hard to adjust your foot on the pedal because the shoe is so grippy! Clipless is good and flats are good. I personally prefer flats for riding as what I do usually involves mud, multi-day rides, and lots of stopping/walking around. I keep meaning to get a road bike for long day rides and then I'd go back to clipless. I have too many bikes and not enough room though.
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Lex Neville posted:Wow, I'm the exact opposite. I've ridden a city bike daily my entire life and probably ride hands-free more than otherwise, but I'm still not nearly as comfortable riding hands-free while clipped in on my road bike. Granted, some of it has to do with sitting less upright on the latter, but being clipped in definitely adds to the nervousness Yeah same. After a year riding lots of clipless I got used to it, but I was very anxious every time i needed to stop while clipped in even though I've been cycling all my life (on flats). Now i ride with SPD and shoes made for gravel/mtb on my road bike. Comfy and easy to walk short distances with, and being clipped in is very nice for proper feet placement and keeping them secure on bumpy roads/offroad. I dialed down the spring tension a lot so it's easy to clip out, and I have never accidentally unclipped. On my MTB and gravel bikes I use two-sided metal pedals (flat / SPD). I use the cleats for longer trips (30+ minutes), and the flats for short commutes and very technical (for me) MTB'ing. The metal flats aren't great for grip but they suffice for my use. My recommendation: get clipless for sporty rides, if only to dial in proper foot position. Get dual-sided pedals and shoes with recessed cleats so it's possible to pedal on the flats for confidence if you're anxious about it. Imo the added difficulty of clipping in on only one side is worth the flexibility it offers, and it's also a good way to practice for spd-sl or other one-sided cleat types.
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I’m about to chuck my Look Keo Blades into the ocean because they’re constantly clicking. You can “fix” it by putting a layer of tape over the body to compress the metal down but it’s only a temporary solution as the tape gets torn up and moves by the process of clicking in. Anyone ever use the Keo compatible Exustar pedals? These look light but also a pain to find stateside. http://exustar.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_61&product_id=55
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May 30, 2022 13:50
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tarlibone posted:regardless of price or learning curve. It may take a while for unclipping to become muscle memory. But, initial learning should only be a few minutes to get a feel for clipping in and out. Especially if you can start on a stationary bike with clipless. And you can get nice pedals and shoes for sub $200 total. EDIT; $150 + tax: https://www.rei.com/product/705311/shimano-m520-spd-pedals, https://www.rei.com/product/178867/shimano-xc1-mountain-bike-shoes-mens I wouldn't bother with flats or clips unless you're going to be commuting to work don't want to deal with a second pair of shoes. Even comfortable mtb shoes would suck to wear for a whole work day. dema fucked around with this message at 14:09 on May 30, 2022 |
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I’m about to chuck my Look Keo Blades into the ocean because they’re constantly clicking. You can “fix” it by putting a layer of tape over the body to compress the metal down but it’s only a temporary solution as the tape gets torn up and moves by the process of clicking in. Well this is disappointing to hear. I used shimano spd-sl for a while and they were decent but I always fumbled around trying to click in. The proprietary powertap pedals were a bit better but pretty clunky. I bought the blades and have used them on a few rides and fell in love with them with how easy I can click in. There’s a little bit of float but it works for my needs.
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I had one of those mornings. Went for my morning ride and around half way around my 25 mile loop my chain breaks and fouls my front derailleur, snapping it. This is not roadside fix territory as the derailleur is now fouling the front chain rings. I then have a 5 mile walk home which has pretty much killed my cycling shoes and I lost my SPD cleats into the bargain. That little lot is gong to set me back around £100. It could of been worse but as Mondays go it sucked.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I’m about to chuck my Look Keo Blades into the ocean because they’re constantly clicking. You can “fix” it by putting a layer of tape over the body to compress the metal down but it’s only a temporary solution as the tape gets torn up and moves by the process of clicking in. I have three pairs of Blades and have never come across this. There are lots of sellers of Exustar pedals on Aliexpress.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I’m about to chuck my Look Keo Blades into the ocean because they’re constantly clicking. You can “fix” it by putting a layer of tape over the body to compress the metal down but it’s only a temporary solution as the tape gets torn up and moves by the process of clicking in. I prefer the Keo Max pedals over the blades since they have adjustable tension. Never had an issue with clicking.
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dema posted:It may take a while for unclipping to become muscle memory. But, initial learning should only be a few minutes to get a feel for clipping in and out. Especially if you can start on a stationary bike with clipless. Cost isn't the main issue for me right now. I mean, I'm a firearm owner who is into reloading to "save" money on ammo. Believe me when I say I've spent more money on less useful stuff! This is all good advice. As a guy who still feels very much like an outsider to all of this, clipless pedals are one of those things that look like something that only the pros use. Of course, when I'm out on the trails, I'm not examining anybody's feet, so maybe they're more common than I perceive. Thanks for all the input. I think I like the idea of the pedals that are flats on one side and clipless on the other.
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tarlibone posted:Cost isn't the main issue for me right now. I mean, I'm a firearm owner who is into reloading to "save" money on ammo. Believe me when I say I've spent more money on less useful stuff!
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tarlibone posted:Cost isn't the main issue for me right now. I mean, I'm a firearm owner who is into reloading to "save" money on ammo. Believe me when I say I've spent more money on less useful stuff! I am definitely not a "pro" by any measure and ride clipless (SPD) on my touring bike. Some people prefer flats for touring but I like clipless, although I am a pansy about unclipping "early". A lot of my friends who ride fixed gear also use clipless pedals rather than straps.
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I managed to score some Giant pr2 wheels complete with tyres and adaptors for quick release for £40. I had to machine the rear axle down to 135mm but now they are on my winterbike for less than the price of a good tyre! 
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tarlibone posted:Thanks for all the input. I think I like the idea of the pedals that are flats on one side and clipless on the other. Shimano makes a few dual function models under SPD: https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/technologies/component/pedal/pedal-lineup-chart.html The most casual ones are super low tension https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/technologies/component/details/shimano-clickr.html If you decide you really like it, you can eventually switch to a 3-bolt setup.
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I rode flats exclusively for years including a 200k and multiple 100ks before switching to clipless. I now strongly prefer clipless but you will be absolutely fine with flats. One thing I wonder about is if riding flats for so long got me into bad pedaling habits. I only ever really push on the down stroke and seem to not use much effort on the rest of the rotation unless I specifically focus on it. Some reading I've done seems to indicate that it's not worth worrying about too much as a recreational rider so 
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It's not worth worrying about at all, afaik current thinking is that training pedalling shape is more trouble than it's worth and can be an active detriment.
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tarlibone posted:Cost isn't the main issue for me right now. I mean, I'm a firearm owner who is into reloading to "save" money on ammo. Believe me when I say I've spent more money on less useful stuff! Nobody asked you about your weird, gross, hobby. You can go ahead and try not to bring up your stupid guns for no loving reason in a thread about a cool hobby like bikes. RacistsSuck fucked around with this message at 19:42 on May 30, 2022 |
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strapped clips, besides being significantly cheaper than clipless, also allow you to ride in whatever shoes you already ride in, while getting a lot of the benefits of clipless. with the straps medium snug they're as easy to get in and out of as clipless, and if you're on a long ride you can cinch the straps down and get almost as secure a connection as clipless. it's a happy medium that i'm partial to. my bike with clipless pedals got stolen years ago and i haven't bothered with replacing them, even though i have the shoes and cleats around here somewhere and if you already have the standard and ubiquitous boxy metal flats, you probably have pedals that clips will bolt to
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SoylentCola posted:I had one of those mornings. Went for my morning ride and around half way around my 25 mile loop my chain breaks and fouls my front derailleur, snapping it. This is not roadside fix territory as the derailleur is now fouling the front chain rings. I then have a 5 mile walk home which has pretty much killed my cycling shoes and I lost my SPD cleats into the bargain. That little lot is gong to set me back around £100. It could of been worse but as Mondays go it sucked. If you'd been on flats the walk would have been more pleasant 
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I'm wondering why he didn't use his multitool to take the cleats off. Still might have torn up the shoes but the cleats would be fine. And depending on how recessed they are, walking would have been much less uncomfortable. E: unless lost his cleats means literally that and they fell out of his pocket or something
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RacistsSuck posted:Nobody asked you about your weird, gross, hobby. You can go ahead and try not to bring up your stupid guns for no loving reason in a thread about a cool hobby like bikes. They were using an analogy about spending lots of money on dumb poo poo. Not every cyclist is completely anti-gun and not every gun user is running you off the road in their lifted 4x4 with diesel stacked pipes. Calm the gently caress down.
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nwin posted:They were using an analogy about spending lots of money on dumb poo poo. No. Guns aren’t a normal thing to be into, someone just killed a bunch of little kids with a stupid gun, and there’s no reason to bring up a gross thing like gun obsession in a thread about something cool and good. Quarantine that poo poo like you would if you were into something super weird and disturbing, like, well, like guns. Edit: every gun “user” owns guns. Every gun “user” that mentions owning guns owns guns and feels the need to bring it up. That’s enough for me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) RacistsSuck fucked around with this message at 01:11 on May 31, 2022 |
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RacistsSuck posted:No. 
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RacistsSuck posted:No. I've never held a gun, am from a gun ban country, and still think you're kind of crazy or at least just overheating badly and need to step away from the screen for a bit.
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if anyone's under the impression that cycling is not a weird gross hobby i have some unfortunate news
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Propriety dictates that you don't talk about perfectly healthy things like jerking off outside of threads dedicated to that sort of discussion. It's not crazy to ask that creeps who build their identities on the fetishization of murderous weapons keep it in their pants when outside the entire subforum set aside for them. Just because the slaughter of a bunch of young, tender kids has you more keyed up then usual doesn't mean actual human beings want to be subjected to or continually reminded of your nihilistic filth.
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marshalljim posted:Propriety dictates that you don't talk about perfectly healthy things like jerking off outside of threads dedicated to that sort of discussion. It's not crazy to ask that creeps who build their identities on the fetishization of murderous weapons keep it in their pants when outside the entire subforum set aside for them. Just because the slaughter of a bunch of young, tender kids has you more keyed up then usual doesn't mean actual human beings want to be subjected to or continually reminded of your nihilistic filth. Perfectly said.
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E: you know what, not my fight
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it really doesn't take too long to get accustomed to clipless pedals. just give it an hour. two hours tops
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Sphyre posted:it really doesn't take too long to get accustomed to clipless pedals. just give it an hour. two hours tops You figure it out after one slow fall. Two tops.
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It was a Friday. Fridays are usually good days because you have a lot of teenagers drinking and driving, plus a lot of people who are in a bad mood and in a hurry to get home from work. The factories usually pay on Friday, so you get a fair number of beer-commercial types cruising around in their 4X4s looking for some butt to kick while they're knocking back a few brews. A cyclist's paradise. I stuck a full mag in my MAC-10 and put another one under the saddle. The gun fits into the water bottle cage pretty well, and it's fairy light. I stuffed a couple of grenades in my jersey pockets and slipped my Rambo-knife into its sheath on the front fork. Just for good measure, I grabbed a thermite grenade and dropped it into the remaining jersey pocket. This is a little more weight than I usually carry, but it was Friday night after all. I caught the first one just a mile from home. It was a type-A, businessman-yuppie-semipsychotic in a BMW, who didn't like the fact that I was occupying two feet of the lane in front of him. He let me know with his horn and his middle finger. It's pretty hard to hit a moving car from a moving bike, even with a machine gun. I must have fired four bursts before I put one in the gas tank and the "Bimmer" erupted into flame. Fortunately, this bozo managed to get the car off on the shoulder before it blew up, so I didn't have to find a detour around the fire. The next one didn't come along for another five or six miles. This was a couple of punks in an old Camaro. They pulled alongside me and the passenger barked out of the window like a dog. Then the driver floored it and screeched off in a cloud of burnt-oil smoke. I got lucky for once. The punks got caught at a stoplight, so I didn't need the gun. I pulled into the center of the road so I would pass the driver. As I rolled past, he started talking some punk talk. I don't know what he said, because he stopped in mid-sentence when he saw the grenade go through his open window into the back seat. I caught a glimpse of both of them frantically scrambling after it just as it went off. It looked like some of the glass and shrapnel did some damage to the car ahead of them, but it couldn't be helped. Every war claims some innocent victims. I'd had enough of the city traffic, so I headed out into farm country. As I went past a barnyard, two enormous dobermans took off on an intercept course. I dropped them both with one burst, and put a couple of rounds through the farmhouse windows to remind the farmer about the leash laws in effect everywhere in the county. A short time later, I heard the roar of knobby tires behind me. I looked back to see a huge Ford pickup truck, one of those jacked-up monstrosities with the undercarriage about three feet off the road. As it pulled closer, I heard loud country music blaring over the din of the tires. There were two men in the cab. They both wore Stetsons, and they were both drinking beer from cans. An archetypical redneckmobile. I felt like just blasting them right then and there, but I waited to see what they had planned. Sometimes these guys just pass you without giving you a hard time. Not this pair, though. The guy in the passenger seat had a styrofoam cooler full of icy water, which he was preparing to dump out the window on yours truly. That was all I needed. As soon as the truck pulled even with me and the guy started to toss the water, I put a burst through the window. This brought trouble, though, because the cab was so high that I didn't get the driver. The truck continued down the road, and I tried to finish them off through the blood-spattered back window, but wouldn't you know it, the mag was empty. I couldn't reload while I was rolling, and the driver of the pickup had by now stopped the truck and was turning around to come after me. I had, maybe, two seconds to make up my mind what to do. I reached into a jersey pocket and pulled out the other grenade. Then I did a time-trial turn, pulled the pin, and looked over my shoulder at the truck which was now speeding towards me. This would have to be timed just right. I let go of the handle and dropped the grenade, then sprinted for everything I was worth. I heard the blast and felt something graze my right arm. Turning around, I saw the truck in flames and out of control. It did a spectacular flip as it went into the ditch, then overturned. There was a second explosion as the gas tank went up. I decided to cut my ride short, since my arm was bleeding. The wound was superficial, but it was nasty enough to cause a lot of discomfort. I thought back to the ammo I'd wasted on that turkey in the BMW, and regretted it. One of these days, I'd have to get some tracer bullets for the MAC to help me aim. Oh, well. I reloaded the gun since I was bound to come accross a few drunks and punks on the way home. A few miles passed and I heard a siren behind me. I decided to play it cool, hoping they weren't after me. I was disappointed. The sheriff's car slowed behind me and I heard an amplified voice telling me to get off the bike and lie face down on the ground. drat. I hated the thought of wasting a cop, but if they'd go out and do their jobs, I wouldn't have to ride around doing my part to rid the area of its rat population. But I had an idea. I still had a thermite grenade. I yanked it out of my pocket and tossed it on the hood of the patrol car. I'd hoped for the element of surprise and got it; the two deputies inside the car were too startled to shoot at me. The grenade went off and started burning its way through the engine compartment. The deputies managed to stop the car, and by the time they got out, I was a good quarter mile down the road. I heard shots behind me, but they'd never hit me at this range with .38 Smith and Wessons. My escape was short-lived, though. I saw two more sheriff's cars up ahead with riflemen crouched behind them. I heard more sirens from behind. This was it. I pulled out the MAC and fired wildly at the roadblock, crouching to make a smaller target. If I had to go, I was going to take some of them with me. It had been a good life. I'd had some good times. I just regretted that they were getting the wrong guy. I felt something hot tug at my shoulder. I reached up, expecting to pull my hand away bloody, and found my office-mate's hand instead. "Bob..Bob!.. Wake up! You fell asleep at your desk! C'mon, it's Friday afternoon. Time to go home!" I went home, firmly resolved never to eat that cafeteria chili again. Copyright (c) 1989 by Robert Fishell
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regulargonzalez posted:I'm wondering why he didn't use his multitool to take the cleats off. Still might have torn up the shoes but the cleats would be fine. And depending on how recessed they are, walking would have been much less uncomfortable. The shoes I have/had rails down the side so you can walk on them without tottering around, I thought they would protect the cleats, I was wrong. I recently traded up from some more mountain bike flat style shoes that have recesses for SPD clips, those would of fared much better but they don't really look the part on a road bike. In short lessons learned: - Remove cleats if you have to walk a significant distance. - Always carry a quicklink, I could of repaired the chain and made the front gears a 1X to get me home.
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mikemelbrooks posted:I have three pairs of Blades and have never come across this. There are lots of sellers of Exustar pedals on Aliexpress. https://youtu.be/Q_-4br3xA3I skip to about 55 seconds. bicievino posted:I prefer the Keo Max pedals over the blades since they have adjustable tension. Never had an issue with clicking. Yeah that may be the option. I have a pair on the trainer.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:Copyright (c) 1989 by Robert Fishell  
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I know -- all of that, and OP was downtube shifting.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:https://youtu.be/Q_-4br3xA3I skip to about 55 seconds. I didn't doubt you have a problem. just that a sample size of one isn't very convincing. On googling the problem I am not seeing lots of people with the same issue. If the pedals are out of warranty I would be tempted to drill down through the pedals and inject some superglue between the steel plate and the body.
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Aids Lifecycle (ALC) is next week! Any goons going? (I am unfortunately not able to make it due to baby obligations)
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Can anyone give me a starting point with a few mountain bike model suggestions. So many options it is a bit overwhelming to get it narrowed to a starting point. I want to be able to carry a small amount of fishing gear to fishing holes at camp grounds and also mild-moderate trail riding just for exercise. Nothing crazy. The more budget friendly the better but can I get something decent under $1000 or even less? I wouldn't mind assembling a kit or upgrading a budget bike if that is the way to go. Or getting lucky and finding something used that fits what I want.
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some dude's old usenet posts, copypasta before there was a word for it http://liegeradtouren.kontakt-mit-linsen.com/spikebike.html seemed appropriate
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MoonCricket posted:Can anyone give me a starting point with a few mountain bike model suggestions. So many options it is a bit overwhelming to get it narrowed to a starting point. I want to be able to carry a small amount of fishing gear to fishing holes at camp grounds and also mild-moderate trail riding just for exercise. Nothing crazy. The more budget friendly the better but can I get something decent under $1000 or even less? I wouldn't mind assembling a kit or upgrading a budget bike if that is the way to go. Or getting lucky and finding something used that fits what I want. For $1000, go for the best Specialized Rockhopper or Giant Talon you can find. E: the Talon is more bang for your buck but either is fine regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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