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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Laterite posted:

quoting myself six months later

pedal to the metal baby

Democrats outlawed by the end of the year let's fuckin ggo

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



a better question than how is biden's approval rating lower than trump's, is how is biden's approval rating as high as it is? does 35% of the country really think he's doing a good job?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

a better question than how is biden's approval rating lower than trump's, is how is biden's approval rating as high as it is? does 35% of the country really think he's doing a good job?

yep

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

They're called Blue MAGA yes

Actually here's an idea go ask that in DnD

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

people approve of biden destroying the democratic party. if polled i too would say he is doing a great job

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

INSERT QUACK TO CONTINUE


Taco Defender

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

Some I have used that have gotten me some furious lectures:
"Thinking about it, Trump actually did a lot for me and even got me those checks pretty quick. He also got that vaccine for COVID out really quick. Didn't start any new wars. Overall he was pretty good, I'd say."

"What are all those policies you didn't like that Trump was doing? Kids are still in cages, we're still deporting would be immigrants, we're increasing police funding. If Democrats are powerless to stop Republicam policies, seems like the Republicans are really good at making policy, maybe they should be in charge. They know how the system works."

"I want to let the process play out and see what the American people decide before I make my call."

"If Biden really is The Most Progressive President in American History, looking at his approval ratings, it looks like progressive policies really are deeply unpopular and we should embrace Republican policies since they embody what Americans really want."

"You and the party elders have repeatedly said you don't want me to vote for you. You think you're entitled to my vote? What do you want next, a pony?"

Feel free to borrow.

I really like that last one. I tend to have the most fun when I pit their bootlicking/scolding nature against itself.

Shear Modulus posted:

a better question than how is biden's approval rating lower than trump's, is how is biden's approval rating as high as it is? does 35% of the country really think he's doing a good job?

I haven't looked at how that lines up with who they polled, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if a good chunk of that 35% is hardcore Blue MAGA people who just don't want people to think he's doing a bad job, even if they, themselves, do.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





yeah if you want to piss them off that's a good way to do it. otoh if you feel like having your rear end kissed just role play a conservative but anti-Trump, Lincoln Project Republican type. "I mean look I'm not voting for Trump obviously but a lot of the Democrats are just too liberal for me" (technically accurate) and so on

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

oh that's a fun one, pretend to be a lincoln project republican dipshit and talk about how you just wish you could vote dem because obviously those trump people are no good but you just aren't sure about you know, all those abortions and the gays and the transes and then when they throw all those groups under the bus trying to appeal to you just mask off and call them out for being a huge piece of poo poo willing to throw people to the wolves to appease republicans lmao

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
That the Lincoln Project creeps were not immediately told "lol no the Democratic Party has no place for you" was an incredible shock to my system

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Antonymous posted:

just say "Biden? you don't know that guy sucks?" why play games. ridicule them

There are generally two ways to upset liberals, and the mistake the post you're replying to makes is that "defeating them with their own logic" isn't one of those ways.

The two ways are:
- Intense and concise condescension
- Emotionally respond negatively to their views in an "oblivious" way that doesn't indicate that you're aligned with one of the "enemy groups" (which includes both leftists and conservatives). For example, just be like "that's awful! I can't believe you'd support that!" instead of making some sort of argument. Liberals expect to get attacked by the "enemy groups," but "some random person thinking they're bad" is something that actually bothers them and that they'll feel a need to get defensive about.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

hailthefish posted:

oh that's a fun one, pretend to be a lincoln project republican dipshit and talk about how you just wish you could vote dem because obviously those trump people are no good but you just aren't sure about you know, all those abortions and the gays and the transes and then when they throw all those groups under the bus trying to appeal to you just mask off and call them out for being a huge piece of poo poo willing to throw people to the wolves to appease republicans lmao

Yeah if you can appeal to their West Wing fantasies by being one of the Reasonable Republicans they can Make Deals and Compromise with they will definitely bite the hook because they all fantasize about it.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

cagliostr0 posted:

I'm still to hear a reason why democrats think Kamala wouldn't immediately get bounced due to not meeting the citizenship requirement for the presidency. At the time she was born people born on us soil in her circumstance weren't automatically given citizenship and you are essentially throwing yourself at the mercy of the supreme Court to get a ruling that she is constitutionally acceptable. It's not birtherism because nobody is disputing she was born on us soil, it's just a little legal problem because of the status of Mexican migrant workers during that period.

?

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Ytlaya posted:

There are generally two ways to upset liberals, and the mistake the post you're replying to makes is that "defeating them with their own logic" isn't one of those ways.

The two ways are:
- Intense and concise condescension
- Emotionally respond negatively to their views in an "oblivious" way that doesn't indicate that you're aligned with one of the "enemy groups" (which includes both leftists and conservatives). For example, just be like "that's awful! I can't believe you'd support that!" instead of making some sort of argument. Liberals expect to get attacked by the "enemy groups," but "some random person thinking they're bad" is something that actually bothers them and that they'll feel a need to get defensive about.

when I talked politics I'd point out that bush ended the iraq war with the enforcement of his status of forces agreement, obama couldn't let US troops go to trial for war crimes

obama tried to/did negotiate away the public option and social security and was anti gay marriage,

libya had the highest human development index in africa and now they have open air slave markets etc

but after trump I don't have to own the libs anymore. they own themselves in increasingly silly ways. and they are going to be destroyed

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I voted for a woman in 2016 and 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Antonymous posted:

I voted for a woman in 2016 and 2020

https://twitter.com/GloriaLaRiva/status/1531819514161025026

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006


I'm not going into the covid thread to find out but I'm genuinely curious and figured someone here would know, is there any ongoing effort to make a vaccine that's actually effective against the current strains or am I forced to admit that Trump gave us Project Warp Speed and Biden gave us nothing except pretending it's over?

I mean I'm fine with pretending it's over, literally everyone around me is obviously feeling the same way so I have no choice, but it would be nice to also have actual protection.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Antonymous posted:

I voted for a woman in 2016 and 2020

trumps not that queeny cmon

Exodus1984
Feb 18, 2005

Eastern Europe Episode IV: A New Hope. I love President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I understand and appreciate the precarious position the Ukrainians are navigating. I wish I could set up a 401(UA) fund from my paycheck to directly contribute my earnings to Ukraine's success.

Mandoric posted:

I mean, part of the problem with Biden is that he wasn't even particularly plausible as an immediate "unity" candidate; at the time the anointment happened, he was second in delegates almost entirely off the back of the first big state, second-third in state wins, and hanging with Klob or Warren at third-fifth in vote share or delegates from competitive states in the general.

The only unity candidate was Bernie Sanders - universally liked by everyone, even people who believed he could not win. Also unified the greater Democratic Party apparatus to prevent him from securing the nomination. Biden became the "unity" candidate when the other 18 people running for the nomination couldn't generate the support needed to oppose Sanders. Thinking about the 2020 primaries is a good way to get annoyed.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

LastInLine posted:

I'm not going into the covid thread to find out but I'm genuinely curious and figured someone here would know, is there any ongoing effort to make a vaccine that's actually effective against the current strains or am I forced to admit that Trump gave us Project Warp Speed and Biden gave us nothing except pretending it's over?

I mean I'm fine with pretending it's over, literally everyone around me is obviously feeling the same way so I have no choice, but it would be nice to also have actual protection.

Kind of.

The vaccines exist and are in clinical trials, but the political leadership is slow rolling them saying—and I poo poo you not—that if the vaccines were updated, it would undermine confidence in the vaccines.

Because what’s definitely not undermining confidence in vaccines is having a tens of millions of breakthrough infections, many with serious consequences.

They’re even more transparently delaying the vaccine for children under five years of age. FDA has been sitting on Moderna’s submission all month. They’ve explicitly said that they are not delaying so they can give Pfizer a chance to compete, but that’s totally what they’re doing. It took less time to go from “a new coronavirus has been identified in China” to EUA for the adult vaccine that it has taken to go from POTUS mask burning party to kids’ vaccine.

Cuba has had a kids’ vaccine for forever, and even notoriously conservative Germany is openly administering Pfizer’s vaccine off‐label to children. I’m sure it’s also being done for oligarch’s grandkids in the U.S., but it would be impolite for journalists to look into that.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 12:15 on Jun 1, 2022

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Platystemon posted:

Kind of.

The vaccines exist and are in clinical trials, but the political leadership is slow rolling them saying—and I poo poo you not—that if the vaccines were updated, it would undermine confidence in the vaccines.

Because what’s definitely not undermining confidence in vaccines is having a tens of millions of breakthrough infections, many with serious consequences.

They’re even more transparently delaying the vaccine for children under five years of age. FDA has been sitting on Moderna’s submission all month. They’ve explicitly said that they are not delaying so they can give Pfizer a chance to compete, but that’s totally what they’re doing. It took less time to go from “a new coronavirus has been identified in China” to EUA for the adult vaccine that it has taken to go from POTUS mask burning party to kids’ vaccine.

Cuba has had a kids’ vaccine for forever, and even notoriously conservative Germany is openly administering Pfizer’s vaccine off‐label to children. I’m sure it’s also being done for oligarch’s grandkids in the U.S., but it would be impolite for journalists to look into that.

Jesus Christ

I mean, I asked but like maybe next time just lie to me

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

LastInLine posted:

it would be nice to also have actual protection.

If you get COVID, lie, cheat, and steal to get Paxlovid.

It’s not a surefire cure, but it works pretty well and it’s what the rich and powerful have been using to mostly successfully avoid consequences for their hedonism. That, and constant testing.

Officially, simply being overweight or a former smoker qualifies you for a prescription, but doctors love to play god with it. It goes without saying that Gavin Newsom’s concierge doctor is generous soul.

You don’t have to actually “lie, cheat, and steal” because pill mills exist.

https://twitter.com/ToonyGoons/status/1524538401839628289

Beware that the U.S. is in a major pandemic wave and supply of Paxlovid is tight in some cities that are on the wrong end of the spoils system. Do not settle for Molnupiravir, which is Merck’s antiviral with much worse efficacy as well as much worse side effects.

Paxlovid will just make everything taste like metal, unless you have marginal liver function, in which case it threatens your life.

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

lol you guys dont need to come up with elaborate ways to trigger libs or whatever you loving dorks. either honestly tell them the democrats are incompetent and have proven that voting for them is pointless - or even do something unlikely to work but sometimes still worth trying - patiently explain and attempt to persuade them over to your own view: that the united states must surrender all sovereignty to the people’s republic of china and allow president xi to restructure the state along the lines of socialism with chinese characteristics

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 20 hours!

THS2 posted:

lol you guys dont need to come up with elaborate ways to trigger libs or whatever you loving dorks. either honestly tell them the democrats are incompetent and have proven that voting for them is pointless - or even do something unlikely to work but sometimes still worth trying - patiently explain and attempt to persuade them over to your own view: that the united states must surrender all sovereignty to the people’s republic of china and allow president xi to restructure the state along the lines of socialism with chinese characteristics

That’s extreme, the JDPON doesn’t have to be from China there’s a long list of oppressed peoples happy to do it

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

pedal to the metal baby

Democrats outlawed by the end of the year let's fuckin ggo

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

They're called Blue MAGA yes

Actually here's an idea go ask that in DnD

don't encourage self-harm

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Both political parties have an absolute floor of 25%. Just hardcore morons who will back anything. You have to subtract that to see how many people still actually like what is going on

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


the Dems are gonna get slaughtered lmao

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1531989437474779137?t=BfcJhY-KDs61_5mTDygKEw&s=19

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

its weird to say this but the republicans actually care more about people than the democrats; to the republicans, a person can be good if they're white and christian enough, and their attempts to whiten and christianize everyone have a goal of creating some sort of idyllic society built upon blood and suffering, whereas the democrats literally don't give a single poo poo about a person at all.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001





i wish my vote was worth pizza.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


i am harry posted:

its weird to say this but the republicans actually care more about people than the democrats; to the republicans, a person can be good if they're white and christian enough, and their attempts to whiten and christianize everyone have a goal of creating some sort of idyllic society built upon blood and suffering, whereas the democrats literally don't give a single poo poo about a person at all.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1530937356806766595?t=6FuwRA22eWtzVxp6uz-7bA&s=19

a party of idiots run by cowards for the benefit of con men

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

At the time of Harris' birth guest workers and temporary visa holders who had children while on us soil didn't get citizenship for their children which was shown by the children of bracero workers who weren't given citizenship. Whether this was correct or in error comes down to an interpretation of the decision made in the late 1800s about Chinese nationals with permanent residency. As far as anyone can tell her parents were on temporary visas at the time of her birth and became naturalised later. If you ask this question to democrats they start talking about birtherism though even though the only thing being asked is 'did they consider the current court makeup before picking somebody who's eligibility could end up in front of Alito'.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
"Extremely offline" lol

quote:

The centers beckon potential voters with everything from movie nights to free dinners to holiday parties to gun safety trainings, thrown by local organizers and paid for by your friends at the RNC, which has dedicated millions of dollars to the program. If those tactics sound familiar, that’s because they were once used to great effect, by groups as varied as the Black Panthers in Oakland or Democrats in New York’s Tammany Hall.

Gosh I wonder if a lesson could be learned

quote:

Multiple Democratic aides told me that they viewed the community center operation as a shambolic nonentity, a “nothingburger,” an earned media play at best, with the minimal online presence as proof.

No, apparently not

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

fast cars loose anus posted:

"Extremely offline" lol

Gosh I wonder if a lesson could be learned

No, apparently not

the party that accuses leftists of being too online

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

quote:

I retreated to my rental car; they loaded into an SUV. Before they pulled out, Thomas tapped on my window. I rolled it down. “Jarrod is on his way here to meet you,” he said, assuring me that I should stay put. I watched them drive off, getting the feeling that they were trying to duck me. Sure enough, ten minutes later, I got another text from Lowery saying he wasn’t coming at all.

lmao what a loving loser

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

fast cars loose anus posted:

"Extremely offline" lol

Gosh I wonder if a lesson could be learned

No, apparently not

Lmao

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
I didn't realize when I posted that what "earned media" meant and I looked it up and its word of mouth, basically. Reviews, likes, shares, etc. i.e. the single most effective coverage anyone can get and the Dems he talked to are like "yeah they're just trying for organic word of mouth outreach :rolleyes:"

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

THS2 posted:

lol you guys dont need to come up with elaborate ways to trigger libs or whatever you loving dorks. either honestly tell them the democrats are incompetent and have proven that voting for them is pointless - or even do something unlikely to work but sometimes still worth trying - patiently explain and attempt to persuade them over to your own view: that the united states must surrender all sovereignty to the people’s republic of china and allow president xi to restructure the state along the lines of socialism with chinese characteristics

I just say they have access to my vote and leave it at that lol

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

spacemang_spliff posted:

I just say they have access to my vote and leave it at that lol

affordable access, please

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Democrats' strategy of doing gently caress all and then vote scolding vs Republicans' strategy of eliminating the problem of people voting against them entirely

quote:

The plan, as outlined by a Republican National Committee staffer in Michigan, includes utilizing rules designed to provide political balance among poll workers to install party-trained volunteers prepared to challenge voters at Democratic-majority polling places, developing a website to connect those workers to local lawyers and establishing a network of party-friendly district attorneys who could intervene to block vote counts at certain precincts.

“Being a poll worker, you just have so many more rights and things you can do to stop something than [as] a poll challenger,” said Matthew Seifried, the RNC’s election integrity director for Michigan, stressing the importance of obtaining official designations as poll workers in a meeting with GOP activists in Wayne County last Nov. 6. It is one of a series of recordings of GOP meetings between summer of 2021 and May of this year obtained by POLITICO.

Backing up those front-line workers, “it’s going to be an army,” Seifried promised at an Oct. 5 training session. “We’re going to have more lawyers than we’ve ever recruited, because let’s be honest, that’s where it’s going to be fought, right?”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/gop-contest-elections-tapes-00035758

i wonder which will be more effective???

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Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

the racist post-election tweets from white PMC libs are going to be lit

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