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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. People generally advise reading the first three books even if they're variable in quality, and then... First Heretic is probably the one I read the fastest, loving devoured it, and it's about those assholes Word Bearers. Master of Mankind is also fairly neat. Can't talk much about the rest except that anything by Graham McNeil will have the worst battle scenes known to man, just utter garbage.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. I'm listening to Scars right now and, besides laughing at a white guy doing Asian voices, its good!
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? Salamanders because they're black and so am I
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Jun 2, 2022 20:15
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Ijyt asked earlier, but would you new folks like us to do a legion by legion breakdown?
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BULBASAUR posted:Ijyt asked earlier, but would you new folks like us to do a legion by legion breakdown? Yes, absolutely. I've read the goonhammer articles and have a general osmosis level of knowledge, but I'd love to an effort post on them.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:23
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? There's too many I'm interested in, but here they are. Loyalists: Ultramarines: I like the colour scheme and the rules for them seem general enough to not shoehorn me into a specific play style Slamanders: Fire weapons are cool and I like that they seem like the closest thing to a good guy a space marine can be Iron Hands: Cyborgs are neat Traitors: Thousand Sons: I'm more interested in the 40k counterpart but the look of their units are still cool and the have rad robots Alpha Legion: that rule where you can take a unit from another faction seems like it could add a lot of variety Iron Warriors: Cyborgs are neat Lucinice fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? I half jokingly want to do Loyalist Emperor's Children and Traitor Iron Hands
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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. Betrayer goes on the list.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:03
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Know No Fear
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I have an embarrassingly large collection of custodes, but from two games with them half a year or so ago they ended up feeling far too powerful to find the right balance for casual gaming against Marines. I'm in on Alpha Legion. The color is sweet, I've been working on airbrushing to get the right shade of blue, and I love the endless circles within circles nonsense lore. Also the scale themed terminators and primarch look very, very cool.
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I'm doing Salamanders, but I was considering White Scars (because I got the Khan's primarch book in a humble bundle and it rocks) and 1k Sons (because I got a Burning of Prospero box a while back). Maybe as allied detachments down the line (especially if they do plastic Legion Outriders). Going to nab a box of Rubric Marines for Kill Team at some point and test the heresy-era scheme on them (there's precedent for that scheme). Then maybe nab some Scarab Occult termies if that scheme works out to use as Sehkmet.
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JcDent posted:People generally advise reading the first three books even if they're variable in quality, and then... Know No Fear is a loving blast. It explains why Ultramarine Sgts wear red helmets, how being the tactical perfect bros. works in battle, and shows that Guilliman has a little of that warp rage in him when he gets pushed to far. Also overall the first 3 books are a great set up. Mechanicum is fun if you like Titans. A Thousand Sons & Prospero Burns are a good duology if you like the T.Sons vs. Space Wolfs thing. First Heretic, Know No Fear, and Betrayer make a nice loose trilogy about Word Bears & Ultramarines. Master of Mankind is cool if you like Custodes or to find out more about the Emperors webway project / The Imperial Dungeon. jassi007 fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. Scars, First Heretic, Betrayer. EZ. Shout out to Know No Fear for also being incredible
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Know No Fear makes a great standalone novel, I think I read it before any of the other HH books and only needed limited knowledge of the background. I don't know if it's the best but it's an excellent entry point.
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On the other hand Im listening to the Fulgrim book and its been an absolute chore
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? I already have some Iron Warriors in 40k because I liked the idea of a Chaos faction that doesn't see Chaos as anything other than a tool. Maybe I should just grab some of the plastic MKIII marines and Terminators from the new box and use them to make the equivalent of Chaos Marines, Havocs and Terminators to go with my 40k IW Daemon Engines and go all in on Death Guard for HH. E: Hmm, Imperial Fists and Ultramarines might also work since Heresy colour schemes tend more towards gritty and desaturated and that’s one of the things I don’t really like about them in 40k. Mercurius fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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AnEdgelord posted:On the other hand Im listening to the Fulgrim book and its been an absolute chore I hated almost all of that book. In hindsight its kind of neat how it shows their slide into Chaos but the entire time I just wanted to smack some common sense into them. The ending is pretty sweet though.
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? I painted Saul Tarvitz earlier this year because I love his character. Might as well reinforce him with some loyalist Emperor's Children to make the traitors pay for every inch of ground.  
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? Either Oldhammer Smurfs or Tacticool Alpha Legion
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jassi007 posted:I hated almost all of that book. In hindsight its kind of neat how it shows their slide into Chaos but the entire time I just wanted to smack some common sense into them. The ending is pretty sweet though. Ferrus shoulda given his bro a couple more hugs
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I think if the emperor had just come by and hugged horus a few times after he became warmaster the whole mess woulda been avoided
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Improbable Lobster posted:I think if the emperor had just come by and hugged horus a few times after he became warmaster the whole mess woulda been avoided tbh he didn't even need to hug him, he just had to call him or send him a letter once a week
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AnEdgelord posted:tbh he didn't even need to hug him, he just had to call him or send him a letter once a week Dear Hourus, Heard you got stabbed by a knife. Lol, your supposed to be an immortal demi-god. Anyway, hope you get better soon. Conquer the galaxy, for me! Love, Dad.
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Hi, I’m here to strongly recommend attending the Las Vegas Open, and playing 30k with the 20 of us that show up. It’s cheap to get there and we’ll go to a burger place where a 3’ tall woman will paddle us on the rear end. We’ll be playing Zone Mortalis, which means you only need to cough up 1,000 points, easily achievable with the new Box!
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panascope posted:Hi, I’m here to strongly recommend attending the Las Vegas Open, and playing 30k with the 20 of us that show up. It’s cheap to get there and we’ll go to a burger place where a 3’ tall woman will paddle us on the rear end. Can confirm, LVO with the 30k thread is both a tradition and a great time. Met some great people, wore some matching T-shirts, and disrupted at least one well-attended dinner theater performance with a whole gang of black-out drunk goons from all over the world. EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! gently caress THE PRINCE HE'S A COWARD!!! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! EVIL!
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? Still all in on Loyalist Emperor's Children. New to the hobby in general, working my way through a box of CSMs to get the hang of assembly and painting, and I'll probably start working on a 40k army of Emps Children or a Fabius Bile army comprised mostly of OG EC Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. Fulgrim, A Thousand Sons, Flight of the Eisenstein are probably my picks. Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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In terms of doing a legion for 30k that I've never painted or played in 40k before, I'm thinking of doing Imperial Fists. Partly because I've painted/played their two most well-known successor chapters (Crimson Fists and Black Templars) before in 40k, so I figure I should give the OG kids of Dorn a try; and partly because my brother is a huge Iron Warriors fanboy, so it'd be neat to pit the two legendary rivals against each other 30k-style.
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Glad to see so much interest! Seeing how much there is, the Slack hivemind is working on an overview of each legion. We won't cover everything in depth, but it should give you new folks an idea of how they play, changes from the 1st to 2nd edition, and that sort of thing. We hope to do one every few days starting this weekend.
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panascope posted:Hi, I’m here to strongly recommend attending the Las Vegas Open, and playing 30k with the 20 of us that show up. It’s cheap to get there and we’ll go to a burger place where a 3’ tall woman will paddle us on the rear end. The paddling is true. there's video evidence. this will be shown to you upon initiation into our cloister.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. Saturnine is probably way up at the top for me but it’s pretty deep in the endgame of the series. First heretic and betrayer follow each other and are also really good.
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BULBASAUR posted:Which legions are you new folks thinking of starting? I already have some unlovable garbage nerds (the Word Bearers) in 40k, so I'll be collecting their loyalist counterpart and starting a Dark Angels army.
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Is this the LVO that start Jan 26th 2023? https://www.lasvegasopen.net/home-1
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I'm excited to get back to my XXth Legion. They've lain fallow for a couple years as I was pretty dissatisfied with they way they played in 1.0. I either had a list that was horribly unfun to play against or vanilla models with an extra movement phase. The initial leaks brought me back in and I'm looking forward to finishing upscaling my Headhunters, now that they're useful. I even got enough done to head out to what was one of the last local events in 1.0 (and get my rear end beat).
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I'm going to be going Word Bearers because I really like their religious aesthetic and things like thr Gal Vorbek and the possessed dread look awesome. Plus, depending on how the rules for demon summoning/allying work they kinda remind me of the old 3.5 CSM rules. Plus their scheme looks awesome. As for my 3 favorite books from the Heresy series, it's definitely First Heretic, Betrayer, and Know No Fear. And no, I didn't choose these because I like Word Bearers, its actually the other way around. These books made me like the Word Bearers(as well as like the Ultramarines). The portrayal of the World Eaters in Betrayer is also awesome and makes them very sympathetic and fleshed out beyond just mindless berserkers. Titandeath was also a fun read and led me to choosing Legio Vulpa for my Titanicus legio. Even though it will always be the second best game set in the Horus Heresy, behind Titanicus of course, I am definitely excited about finally getting into 30k. (I still wish they went epic scale though)
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Really appreciating all the book recommendations, as someone who already knows they enjoy Dan Abbnet and who also has vague recollections of the first few books from read up through Flight of the Eisenstein when it was published, I jumped straight into Know No Fear. However, I don't want to neglect this other author who's so well regarded so I'm probably going to make betrayer my next choice.
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Calling these Justaerin done. Tomorrow is BOX DAY 
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Hixson posted:why hello my fellow impaled-IF enjoying friend Well Emperor be damned, I feel motivated. The paintjob I have to aspire to!
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This might be a stupid question. But, could I just paint the box set as crimson fists and use them in 40k official tournaments as classic marines?
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AchtungBaby posted:This might be a stupid question. But, could I just paint the box set as crimson fists and use them in 40k official tournaments as classic marines? I don't play 40k, but I can't imagine Marines in a mark of armor that exists in the fluff as being somehow not allowed in a 40k event.
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