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Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
I remember Enver Gjokaj doing a scary good job of embodying the nerdy tech guy in one brain swap episode of Dollhouse. It’s probably the only thing I remember about that show.

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Spock and T'Pring both struggling with how to address Pike was very funny.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
So as has been said so far we've had a body swap, a comet, a submarine, a virus, a civilization in civil war episodes.

Anyone want to play a, next five episode classic sci-fi plots "bingo". (bingo can now officially mean anything now. This is cannon!)

I'm guessing 1# Stranded in space. 2# alien space god loving with them 3# transporter related gently caress up 4# Groundhog day. 5# perfect civilization hiding dark secrete.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

dr_rat posted:

2# alien space god loving with them

I know this got done to death with Q, but goddamn there was nothing I quite enjoyed as much as TOS episodes when they ran into super-powered Godlike beings who either turned out to be space conmen or McCoy and Spock figured out a way for Kirk to find a weakpoint on them. :hellyeah:

bltzn
Oct 26, 2020

For the record I do not have a foot fetish.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

This episode has some fantastic examples of one of my favorite underused Trek tropes: “one actor has to adopt the mannerisms of another actor because their characters body-swapped/were turned into children/became vessels of a literal soul somehow”.



dr_rat posted:

So as has been said so far we've had a body swap, a comet, a submarine, a virus, a civilization in civil war episodes.

Anyone want to play a, next five episode classic sci-fi plots "bingo". (bingo can now officially mean anything now. This is cannon!)

I'm guessing 1# Stranded in space. 2# alien space god loving with them 3# transporter related gently caress up 4# Groundhog day. 5# perfect civilization hiding dark secrete.

- aliens/terrorists take over the ship
- shuttle crash lands on an alien planet
- wild west/nazi/roman empire planet
- tholians
- alien seeks refuge from persecution because they were born with the wrong glorbus or something

bltzn fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jun 3, 2022

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I swear Spock was even holding his face like T'Pring, and vice-versa. Actors, man.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Also there needs to be at least one episode where they receive a message from themselves warning them away from something. Bonus points if "time displacement" and full points if "chronitons"

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I really liked Spock fixing his hair after Chapel smacked him. A+ Nimoy tic.

He also did a great “raise eyebrow while looking away” in that same scene.

bltzn
Oct 26, 2020

For the record I do not have a foot fetish.
I hope kyle being mean becomes a morn-like recurring joke where the crew is always referencing it but every time he's shown on screen he's nothing but the nicest person

or maybe it works better as a one-off gag, I dunno

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

dr_rat posted:

So as has been said so far we've had a body swap, a comet, a submarine, a virus, a civilization in civil war episodes.

Anyone want to play a, next five episode classic sci-fi plots "bingo". (bingo can now officially mean anything now. This is cannon!)

I'm guessing 1# Stranded in space. 2# alien space god loving with them 3# transporter related gently caress up 4# Groundhog day. 5# perfect civilization hiding dark secrete.

Theme Planet
Mullety Rebels & Flaming Trash Cans
Pre-warp Pan Flutes
Bad Admiral Does A War Crime
Season Finale Cliffhanger featuring some TNG-era first contact gone horribly wrong

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


bltzn posted:

I hope kyle being mean becomes a morn-like recurring joke where the crew is always referencing it but every time he's shown on screen he's nothing but the nicest person

or maybe it works better as a one-off gag, I dunno

:cry: He's SO MEAN :cry:

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
My only issue with the episode is that "Good cop, bad cop" is not done in separate rooms.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Charity Porno posted:

yeah, those are the gems shining through the trash pile, like I said!

Right, but I think I'd argue that TOS didn't have that many bad episodes, especially in the first two seasons. There were a bunch of mediocre episodes, as was true of every star trek series, but in the first two seasons, there were only something like 3 out of 52 really bad episodes. The third season I give you, though. Lot of pretty bad ones there.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



That trembling little "um... no?" was my favorite line read of the episode.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



Tim Peel posted the full graphic on Twitter.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Great episode. And watching it immediately after Orville S3E1 was a treat. Ethan Peck acting as Normal Spock, Fully Vulcan Spock, Fully Human Spock, and T'Sprock all in one episode was fantastic. Nurse Chapel getting to tone down the professional quirkiness was also great. I watch on a projector too and oh man both shows tonight were gorgeous!

The thing we can all argue about is what part of the chewing gum experiment led the Federation to ban it so 24th Starfleet people no longer know what it is.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
An ensign ended up with a tongue made of gum after a horrific transporter accident.

“What we got back didn’t last long… hubba-bubba.”

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/jjlendl/status/1532536720771661844

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

An ensign ended up with a tongue made of gum after a horrific transporter accident.

“What we got back didn’t last long… hubba-bubba.”

People have to stop to spit their gum into a trashcan before they get into the transporter, but one day a curious child snuck his gum in after his dad told him the story about how human brains can't comprehend how quickly gum loses its flavor. Once they reached the other side, his horrified father heard screams, and his son babbling,"IT'S QUICKER THAN YOU THINK, DAD! IT'S QUICKER THAN YOU THINK! :byodood:"

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



I have a couple pages of thread to read but don't really have much of anything to say about this episode for now, other than it was fantastic. I finally realized that Church's actress is basically Lindsay Lohan. The "sign the scorch" scene is wonderfully done. I don't know how they're making me care about these people but it's working better than any Trek since DS9... and I say that having enjoyed Enterprise. (And as much as I love Lower Decks I can't say I've bonded with anyone other than Tendi.)

I did, however, want to mention that the Orville premiere is 70 minutes and so incredibly not-lighthearted that it had maybe 2 incredibly soft jokes and neither made me smile. It's a completely dramatic episode, almost downright depressing in how it got its incredibly deep moral across. Not a single laugh in the entire runtime. Seth finally got his chance to make serious Trek and... and...

...

...and it's worse than Strange New Worlds. It's a fantastic episode of television but I actually needed to laugh at least once. Strange New Worlds is actually balancing things out properly and being consistently entertaining whereas during the Orville episode I was screaming at characters to not be so narrow minded about singular beings vs their species. Again, it had to be done for the moral to land as hard as it did but... gently caress man. This makes me question how the season is going to go. It's still better written, acted, and directed than Disco and Picard but I hope it's not just an entire season of morality pounding.


Unspoiled: It's freakin' great, I just have thoughts. Either way, sci-fi spaceship show watchers are feasting right now.

Arglebargle III posted:



Tim Peel posted the full graphic on Twitter.
This is a lie because marsupial was misspelled on the pad in the show! It's Marupial!

Let's spend the next 20 pages talking about this until the new episode.

DaveKap fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jun 3, 2022

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
No Dave, we need at least 20 pages of discussion on the ramifications of the chewing gum/transporter revelation.

:colbert:

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Yeah does that even work. The transporter knows that gum should be minty and so creates more mint flavour? Does it "fix" any other things about me when I go through? Why couldn't it fix Picard heart?

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Is the transporter gum re-flavoring thing a reference or brand new? If it's brand new, I'm just going off the assumption that the teleporter won't put non-essentials into the buffer when it would take less energy to simply replicate the matter via the food replicator. The chewed gum isn't good enough for the buffer, so it gets replicated instead. Voila, flavor!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I’ve noticed I’m starting to grow a few grey hairs at my temples and the back of my neck hairline, and it bothers me. My boyfriend said it was fine and I’m just Anson Mount-ing now. That makes me feel a lot better. :unsmith:

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Does it "fix" any other things about me when I go through? Why couldn't it fix Picard heart?

It did fix his heart, it made it spearmint flavored. :confused:

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Chewing gum in transporter + Tribble snuck into transporter matrix = big, BIG trouble.

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Strange New Worlds is so much better than Discovery at selling me the notion that these characters are friends with each other.

I really, really like Jess Bush's Chapel and even though it seems like a weird thing to get hung up on, it bums me out a little bit thinking of how she inevitably ends up as the bland barely-there background character in TOS.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Mode 7 posted:

it bums me out a little bit thinking of how she inevitably ends up as the bland barely-there background character in TOS.

She was just really tired then because of her utterly amazing social and professional life she was having outside of whatever the comparably boring and stuffy stuff the bridge crew were doing on camera and that's all there is too it. :colbert:

(edit: That goes for Uhura too.)

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jun 3, 2022

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Finally watched the episode and it’s good. I want M’Benga to wear the hat all the time, even when he’s not fishing.

Especially when he’s not fishing.

This was the only thing I didn't like and it's due to serialization. If my house got hosed up and I was on vacation while the place was being fixed I'd probably be a bit too worried about someone finding the illegal baby hidden I left hidden in the microwave to really relax.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Una and La’An used the medical transporter too! Maybe he puts her in a spare buffer now.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Just an isolinear chip with "DaUGHTeR" scrawled on it with sharpie

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

*solemnly breaks the tabs off so nobody can record over my beloved child*

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The_Doctor posted:

Una and La’An used the medical transporter too! Maybe he puts her in a spare buffer now.

M’Benga sits down for storytime, activates the medical transporter and a wad of chewed up gum appears on the bed.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)
It's not much but I was watching The Balance of Terror last night and when the racist tac5ical officer heads down to the phaser Bay, Kirk orders Uhura to navigation and she sits her rear end down immediately and starts flying the drat ship

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jerusalem posted:

M’Benga sits down for storytime, activates the medical transporter and a wad of chewed up gum appears on the bed.

I'll do you one better. The Girl Who Had Tribbles Stuck To Her Face as an episode title.

Plot would be a puberty metaphor.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Brawnfire posted:

Just an isolinear chip with "DaUGHTeR" scrawled on it with sharpie

Sorry, during the getaway the scrawl got all mixed up with the Dial M for murder isolinear chip. Your daughter is now a wild mix of character from a Alfred hitchcock film.

I'm so sorry. 60's psychological horror Hijinx shall be involved.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Brawnfire posted:

Just an isolinear chip with "DaUGHTeR" scrawled on it with sharpie

Really painting Jim Shimoda in a whole new light

Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse
I am bewildered and confused at watching good Star Trek in 2022. I didn't know it was possible for them to make this anymore.

Just kidding but drat this is such a good show and that was an excellent episode.

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HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
We get SNW and LDS S3 pretty much back-to-back. Summer 2022 is a good time for Trek fans. :3:

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