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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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PainterofCrap posted:

I’m trying to remember what program it was - Think it was an early version of MapQuest- that was available to us field adjusters to use on our Panasonic CF-2 laptops.

It consisted of eight floppy discs that had to be loaded in order to operate it. Each time you wanted directions to an address, it had to be loaded manually because it was a 486 HD that couldn’t hold it all and run windows (version after 3.1)

Haha poo poo yeah, I remember getting a HIGHWAY MAPPING shareware program from The Software Labs that came on a bunch of floppies and would draw reasonably accurate road maps as long as you were zoomed out to about the state level. If you zoomed in any further most towns were just, like, an intersection of two lines, and if you zoomed in far enough you could detect that the road segments were just giant arcs or segments of circles math'd together. Kind of ingenious but really only useful for like, calculating driving directions from LA to New York

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Monkey Island 2 and Indiana Jones 4 were both 11 disks on Amiga, so you better be sure you had clicked everything before you went to another location

Oddhair
Mar 21, 2004

This is reminding me of a friend who started collecting mp3s in like 96-97, just scouring usenet for them on like a 200 MHz Pentium or earlier...which was enough oomph to decode mp3s but not while doing anything else. This mofo was collecting them before they were really playable.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Oddhair posted:

This is reminding me of a friend who started collecting mp3s in like 96-97, just scouring usenet for them on like a 200 MHz Pentium or earlier...which was enough oomph to decode mp3s but not while doing anything else. This mofo was collecting them before they were really playable.

My Audio engineering lecturer taught me of the wonders of SoulSeek. Which is still a thing. A warning though, be prepared to encounter greybeard audiophile pirates that won't share their warez unless you also have a library worthy of them.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Humphreys posted:

My Audio engineering lecturer taught me of the wonders of SoulSeek. Which is still a thing. A warning though, be prepared to encounter greybeard audiophile pirates that won't share their warez unless you also have a library worthy of them.

Just as the gods intended.

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

Humphreys posted:

My Audio engineering lecturer taught me of the wonders of SoulSeek. Which is still a thing. A warning though, be prepared to encounter greybeard audiophile pirates that won't share their warez unless you also have a library worthy of them.

At least they're relegated to the bottom of the search results.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Hyperlynx posted:

And edit your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT

MEMMAKER

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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EMM386

Does this game use extended memory or expanded memory? Can I make it so I can run this game and a different game without rebooting in between with different AUTOEXEC.BATs??? :psyduck:

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Trying to get Ultima 7 to run, with a mouse, and sound, was a formative experience.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004




Waldenbooks bringing the horny…

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Phanatic posted:

Trying to get Ultima 7 to run, with a mouse, and sound, was a formative experience.

Wing Commander was the best because if you used expanded memory you would get 3D ship explodey effects, but if you used extended memory you would get the animations of the guy's joystick on-screen, or something like that. One or the other, you had to pick. It was pure insanity

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
It's all expensive memory now.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Phanatic posted:

Trying to get Ultima 7 to run, with a mouse, and sound, was a formative experience.
Spoken as someone without the CD-ROM edition.

Also loving Win98 loading a doublespace driver into conventional memory whether or not you actually used it.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Cartoon Man posted:



Waldenbooks bringing the horny…

I remember patronizing both Waldenbooks and Tower Records, among many other lost stores and chains

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

Cartoon Man posted:

Waldenbooks bringing the horny…

I definitely remember this image, but I thought it was a MTG card.

Maybe I don't remember it.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

I definitely remember this image, but I thought it was a MTG card.

Maybe I don't remember it.

BROM has done a bunch of cards for MTG and has a persistent look, you're probably thinking one of those. I believe that art was from a Dark Sun book.

Oh, it says it right in the ad copy.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Cartoon Man posted:



Waldenbooks bringing the horny…

I have a ton of comic books from the 90s and almost all the dnd/video game/whatever ads are like this .

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

DJ Fuckboy Supreme posted:

I definitely remember this image, but I thought it was a MTG card.

Maybe I don't remember it.

Brom, the artist, did a ton of art for the Dark Sun D&D setting. They had a really distinctive style and I always wondered why we didn't see more of their art elsewhere because it was really good in evoking a certain milieu of fantasy stuff. Then again, I'm not that familiar with MtG so they might have done art for the cards too.

e:f;b

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
From the time I got my first computer in the mid 90s, every single game I installed I'd have to figure out the audio and modem ports and IRQs and channels 100% by the process of deduction. It was like a minigame just to install something correctly so I'd have sound. I didn't know what an IRQ was and I never thought to write it down. The first time I installed something where I didn't have to do that, I was amazed.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Admiralty Flag posted:

Brom, the artist, did a ton of art for the Dark Sun D&D setting. They had a really distinctive style and I always wondered why we didn't see more of their art elsewhere because it was really good in evoking a certain milieu of fantasy stuff. Then again, I'm not that familiar with MtG so they might have done art for the cards too.

e:f;b

brom did around 50 cards and popped up a bunch in other RPG stuff in the 90s, deadlands especially

Qwezz
Dec 19, 2010



I'm feeling some good vibrations!

Warcraft 2 installer posted:

Your Soundcard works perfectly

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

The Fattest PI posted:

From the time I got my first computer in the mid 90s, every single game I installed I'd have to figure out the audio and modem ports and IRQs and channels 100% by the process of deduction. It was like a minigame just to install something correctly so I'd have sound. I didn't know what an IRQ was and I never thought to write it down. The first time I installed something where I didn't have to do that, I was amazed.



This is my autobiographical account of every new game that had "Jane's" in the title and had a manual with 1,000 pages on how to target a tank over the horizon but diddly squat about what the 31 flavours of Soundblaster meant.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

Lobok posted:



This is my autobiographical account of every new game that had "Jane's" in the title and had a manual with 1,000 pages on how to target a tank over the horizon but diddly squat about what the 31 flavours of Soundblaster meant.

wow this post just opened up a flood of repressed memories in which i would consult a novel of a game manual with only half a page dedicated “how to make this game run at all” and 300 pages dedicated to story and obvious, unhelpful gameplay hints

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slTHHXWNG4Y

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

The Fattest PI posted:

From the time I got my first computer in the mid 90s, every single game I installed I'd have to figure out the audio and modem ports and IRQs and channels 100% by the process of deduction. It was like a minigame just to install something correctly so I'd have sound. I didn't know what an IRQ was and I never thought to write it down. The first time I installed something where I didn't have to do that, I was amazed.

:hmmyes:

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Thread making me very happy I wasnt born in the 80s

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





PainterofCrap posted:

I’m trying to remember what program it was - Think it was an early version of MapQuest- that was available to us field adjusters to use on our Panasonic CF-2 laptops.

It consisted of eight floppy discs that had to be loaded in order to operate it. Each time you wanted directions to an address, it had to be loaded manually because it was a 486 HD that couldn’t hold it all and run windows (version after 3.1)

We trained on Windows 3.1 back in 1995 and the clerical staff freaked out about using a mouse. Trainer spent an hour trying to persuade them that yes, taking your fingers off of the keyboard for a few seconds and clicking was far faster that hitting a series of ALT keys & tabbing/slamming ENTER infinitely. She eventually had to furnish then with a cheat sheet to show how to negotiate your way around Windows without a mouse.

The rest of us couldn’t believe that there were games. Management didn’t know how to remove them, and we had no IT department as such.

The best was the computer lab in HS in the late 90s. Students quickly outpaced the teachers and installed RoTT and DOOM on all PCs via 1/4" floppy disks, spending lunch/ditched classes/after school hours slamming cheat codes and fragging each other via the LAN.

dipstick
homerun
ekg
SEEYA

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Admiralty Flag posted:

Brom, the artist, did a ton of art for the Dark Sun D&D setting. They had a really distinctive style and I always wondered why we didn't see more of their art elsewhere because it was really good in evoking a certain milieu of fantasy stuff. Then again, I'm not that familiar with MtG so they might have done art for the cards too.

e:f;b

Brom graduated up I think to book covers, and wrote books themselves. I think they mostly do writing and selling print on demand from their website now.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


Leon Sumbitches posted:

The best was the computer lab in HS in the late 90s. Students quickly outpaced the teachers and installed RoTT and DOOM on all PCs via 1/4" floppy disks, spending lunch/ditched classes/after school hours slamming cheat codes and fragging each other via the LAN.
Another student and I already had enough (still rudimentary) coding experience in our mid-'90s computer class that we got to jump to the end of the textbook and basically test out of the entire course. I spent the rest of class time for the whole semester playing Nethack, which I found on a random disk in the computer lab. Good times.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
I still remember making DOS boot scripts in AUTOEXEC.BAT so I would have enough "conventional memory" to run games

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Bismuth posted:

Thread making me very happy I wasnt born in the 80s

It's very weird how we all just take for granted now that there's a generational divide with new technology and it's the younger side of the divide that gets it. Only really started with consumer electronics and home computing.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Elias_Maluco posted:

I still remember making DOS boot scripts in AUTOEXEC.BAT so I would have enough "conventional memory" to run games

I was too dumb for scripting so I made floppies often labeled DAS BOOT

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





Lobok posted:

It's very weird how we all just take for granted now that there's a generational divide with new technology and it's the younger side of the divide that gets it. Only really started with consumer electronics and home computing.

There's another generational divide with the generation called Z where they absolutely don't get it. Things just work for them, they have no idea how, they don't understand filetree structures at all. They're better than the boomers, but things have always been easy and just worked, so they never had to learn.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Karate Bastard posted:

It's all expensive memory now.

Haha yeah, not like the cheap stuff back in the 80s. $300 for an 8 kilobyte RAM expansion.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Gromit posted:

Haha yeah, not like the cheap stuff back in the 80s. $300 for an 8 kilobyte RAM expansion.

The most I ever paid for ram was $100 a megabyte for my Mac lc. Even at those prices, the ram in the desktop I have now would cost $3.2 million.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Leon Sumbitches posted:

There's another generational divide with the generation called Z where they absolutely don't get it. Things just work for them, they have no idea how, they don't understand filetree structures at all. They're better than the boomers, but things have always been easy and just worked, so they never had to learn.

"Dad, how do I open pdf?"

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Hirayuki posted:

Another student and I already had enough (still rudimentary) coding experience in our mid-'90s computer class that we got to jump to the end of the textbook and basically test out of the entire course. I spent the rest of class time for the whole semester playing Nethack, which I found on a random disk in the computer lab. Good times.

I had this amazing computer class in college where once you hit chapter 5 of the book you learned all about how to cheat on the tests and always pass. Yeah just make the output a file you can edit without anyone knowing.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Leon Sumbitches posted:

There's another generational divide with the generation called Z where they absolutely don't get it. Things just work for them, they have no idea how, they don't understand filetree structures at all. They're better than the boomers, but things have always been easy and just worked, so they never had to learn.

But that's not new technology. If Kids These Days don't understand stuff like file directories -- which Windows itself seems to downplay and almost deliberately hide -- I feel like that's actually good if things are simpler and easier for them now. That stuff is decades old. Meanwhile if I had a ten year-old I'm sure they'd be running circles around me with some actual new stuff.

If we're thinking of the same article that came out a ways back, I remember that the students weren't helpless with files but just using naming conventions and using search and sort features to find things quickly.

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Leon Sumbitches posted:

There's another generational divide with the generation called Z where they absolutely don't get it. Things just work for them, they have no idea how, they don't understand filetree structures at all. They're better than the boomers, but things have always been easy and just worked, so they never had to learn.

Reminds me of that brief period on Twitter where a bunch of gen Z types discovered that torrenting was a thing and it blew their minds

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