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I'm enjoying Strange New Worlds so much that despite multiple ringing alarm bells, guys in high vis jackets making wild waving hand gestures and screaming no in my face, and strafing gun fire from concerned bystanders, I started watching Discovery after giving up on it a few episodes into the first season. I would just like to say, ahem...... I would just like to put forward..... well, let's be frank: lol and lmao Klingon tiddies 
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CPColin posted:Earlier in the episode when they were talking about a woman coming after Chapel with a phaser, I thought they were revealing she's bi because I misheard it a little. What exactly did you mishear? 
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Both original flavor M'Benga (from TOS) and SNW M'Benga are cool. It cannot be understated how empowering it was to see a black figure of authority bitch-slap the hell out of a white guy in the 1960's & in ST:TOS reruns.
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Just caught up with the past few episodes, andArglebargle III posted:Ah gently caress aahh it's so good what the gently caress
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Just got caught up in SNW. I am digging the slick sets, acting, and haircuts. I am kind of luke warm on the stories, though. Honestly I am not seeing much in it besides it being faithfully formulaic Trek comfort food. Kind of like a modern, more expensive Voyager or Enterprise. Is that the general consensus on it, or do folks around here see something else I am missing?
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Jun 4, 2022 04:50
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I like it a lot but I would also agree it's playing things very safe. Not necessarily a bad thing. It wouldn't surprise me if they decided not to push hard at first and see how the response was... though I guess they've filmed most of season 2 before 1 even started so ??? who knows. Honestly a formulaic but mostly competent episodic Trek with a charismatic cast is fine after years of abuse by Disco and Picard. If that poo poo is what the current Trek production people consider taking risks and pushing boundaries then please don't take any risks with SNW.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Just got caught up in SNW. I am digging the slick sets, acting, and haircuts. I am kind of luke warm on the stories, though. Honestly I am not seeing much in it besides it being faithfully formulaic Trek comfort food. Kind of like a modern, more expensive Voyager or Enterprise. People are still in the honeymoon period on it because it’s competently put together and hasn’t had any offensively poo poo episodes yet
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The writing has been a little clunky here and there but they have the basics down, which is more than you can say for the other new Trek shows. "This B plot doesn't really go anywhere" or "the script writers aren't sure what to do with this subplot" are normal criticisms that you can level at lots of Trek episodes. "These characters have had five lines between them all season" or "the tone is wildly inconsistent across the episode" are criticisms that you can level at Discovery and Picard but not at SNW. It's got some of that first season clunk, especially episodes one and four, but it's so far and away beyond anything since 2004 that it's hard to criticize. S1 of Trek has had some incredible stinkers like Naked Now, If Wishes Were Horses, and Parallax. Judged by that standard SNW is going quite well.
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For all the people saying SNW a little mediocre, how can you possibly square that with Spock saying "dangerously close to hijinks"????
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It's a good looking show with a charismatic, entertaining cast who all largely get stuff to do, telling standard TOS stories well but with modern sensibilities. It isn't breaking any molds but it's also largely exactly the feeling I've been looking for from a new Trek series for a long rear end time, and that goes a hell of a long way. I was largely unimpressed by the first episode but every episode since then has just been a really easy watch and I find myself looking forward to what kind of different hijinks ( ) the crew get up to each week.DS9 changed up the basic formula of Trek in a really interesting way, but ever since then I've felt like the shows that followed have tried to either play it safe with formulaic drek (Voyager) or try to examine THE DARK AND SEXY SECRETS BENEATH THE FEDERATION'S SQUEAKY-CLEAN SURFACE in mostly uninspired ways. SNW at this point feels like "what if TOS but made in 2022?" and it seems to be working so far!
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I think SNW is inspired in equal parts by TOS, TMP and TNG. It's got TOS characters, TNG story structure and TMP design.
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It's a very pretty show. I want to go see those sets. Last time I felt that way was DS9, would've loved to walk around the Promenade.
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If I have any complaint about the sets it’s one that I think carries across all of the nu-Trek shows and it’s that I don’t really have a good sense of how the ship is laid out. I can imagine myself on the original Enterprise, the D, Voyager, I would know how to get around them. I never had a sense of how Discovery is laid out and connected and so far that sense has continued to the SNW Enterprise. I think it feels way more inviting than Discovery and the sets are beautiful. Maybe this is just a weird complaint that’s specific to me or something that’ll be alleviated as we see more of the ship.
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The thing that's weirdest about the set design for me is that the bridge is about 2x as big as it is in with a lot of very dark corners. It's very Wrath of Khan, really. Maybe on a refit they made it smaller, then realized their mistake and made it bigger again. Not sure why the scorch is an old hull plate and not a phaser bank or something. But I loved the way they sign it anyway. Una Chin-Riley #1
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I'm fine with SNW just being updated formulaic trek. Comfort food is good after decades of slop. Build the trust back up then try your ambitious poo poo.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Did they ever specify if the burn was alpha quadrant only, or the entire galaxy? DS9 uses "Alpha Quadrant" as a shorthand for "Everyone on this side of the wormhole" but in actuality Earth, Qo'nos, and the remains of Romulus are all in the Beta Quadrant so presumably it's galaxy-wide.
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pik_d posted:What exactly did you mishear? I thought it was "spurned lover came after Chapel with a phaser" and not "the Other Woman sought revenge". Did I mishear it AND misremember it? I'll just review the tape I guess!
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Not trying to hyperbole here: that was my favorite bit of Star Trek since the 90s and the best ep of the show so far.
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I think I missed this when it was posted in April somehow? https://intl.startrek.com/news/watch-the-star-trek-lower-decks-season-three-teaser-trailer
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 "The same thing" in this context is in relation to the guy that Chapel is about to go hang out with who keeps things simple. Chapel is bisexual. But imho that doesn't matter. If this is gonna be real Trek, they gotta take a page from The Expanse and just make everyone pan and poly because the human race should be beyond caring about sexual limitations. Especially when humans are having offspring with aliens.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's a very pretty show. I want to go see those sets. Last time I felt that way was DS9, would've loved to walk around the Promenade. It's a shame that they always straight up strike the sets for things like Trek. When there's a fairly rabid fanbase for a property, I don't see how you'd lose money by finding a cheap warehouse, getting the crew to port the set over to it, and then opening up a Quark's Bar + Promenade set for people to come visit for a fee. Where it really feels criminal is when it comes to things like the bridge of a starship, since that's got to be pretty easy to move into a smaller space and then just have available as a tourist-y thing to go take pictures or video on the bridge. I can see a full blown promenade being too costly, but those bridges don't take up that much space! Drink-Mix Man posted:Just got caught up in SNW. I am digging the slick sets, acting, and haircuts. I am kind of luke warm on the stories, though. Honestly I am not seeing much in it besides it being faithfully formulaic Trek comfort food. Kind of like a modern, more expensive Voyager or Enterprise. That's pretty much my take on it. I hope SNW does well and leads to another big swing on this type of trek show. I'd certainly be game for them to try to start up a fresh Trek era to play around in set between TOS and TNG for example, or do a show with a good concept set in that prodigy-ish time of Trek. NowonSA fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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I'm personally hyped about it because it shows that there's still someone willing and able to make a show like the Star trek that I grew up with. So while It might not be a perfect show, it's still much, much closer to the soft sci-fi show that I enjoy and it gives me hope that they're capable of making something even better in the future (Star trek: time cops or Star trek: the transporter clone wars).
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NowonSA posted:Where it really feels criminal is when it comes to things like the bridge of a starship, since that's got to be pretty easy to move into a smaller space and then just have available as a tourist-y thing to go take pictures or video on the bridge. I can see a full blown promenade being too costly, but those bridges don't take up that much space! I actually live about an hour south of Ticonderoga, NY, where during non-plague times they have the TOS bridge set which they open to the public one week in the fall every year. They actually attract some decent talent too, Karl Urban came one year to see it. Edit: my bad, I thought it was the original set, apparently it's the Phase II set which is a near-perfect replica. Still cool though Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Jun 4, 2022 |
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Am I the only one bothered that M'Benga said he was going fly-fishing then shows up with a spinning rod and lures? That's how I fish but I wouldn't be much of a Trek fan if without being a pedant.
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In the 23rd century the term "fly fishing" has shifted to meaning "fishing while looking fly". Hence the hat.
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I can accept that.
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Hellblazer187 posted:For all the people saying SNW a little mediocre, how can you possibly square that with Spock saying "dangerously close to hijinks"???? Also with Spock's ridiiiiiiiiiiculous(ly amazing) sideburns?? On that note, as good as everyone in the cast is, especially Mount, I have to say that Peck is absolutely crushing Spock. His deadpan is so goddamn funny, he nails every emotional moment, he's so charming, he managed to play quadruple duty this past episode effortlessly, and he sells it all with grace and subtlety. Overall the show has a ton of subtlety in its acting, which is constantly impressing me. So much is so clearly conveyed in facial expressions and body language. I also think the direction has a lot to do with that, with everything being punchy and efficient and effective.
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He's also got the voice genes of Gregory Peck, which helps. I agree though, he's great and he's not doing a Nimoy impression I 100% still do not get how Vulcan romance works, like Spock and Tpring sitting there in the afterglow is absolutely vibe ridden. Why initiate a post coital kiss, it is illogical. Vulcans should have sexual mores similar to medieval Catholics, that sex is an unfortunate and embarrassing necessity. (Incidentally this is how it looks in VOYs Blood Fever, where Vorik would rather loving die than have anyone help him and even Tuvok is like, yeah same)
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The endorphin rush from a post-coital kiss helps to create nerve pathways between the parts of your brain which reference your partner and the parts which reference stability, peace, and well-being. It's only logical to assist this process by embracing after a mating ritual to generate oxytocin. It couldn't be further from "snuggling," thank you very much. (Vulcans are hypocrites hth)
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zoux posted:He's also got the voice genes of Gregory Peck, which helps. I agree though, he's great and he's not doing a Nimoy impression Yeah, Ethan Peck isn’t imitating Leonard Nimoy, he’s playing Spock. And it turns out those really are two completely different things, and he’s really good at playing Spock.
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“Get out of town!” “We are not in a town.” is a great exchange. 
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pik_d posted:In the 23rd century the term "fly fishing" has shifted to meaning "fishing while looking fly". Hence the hat. Is this not why people ware -to varying degree's of success- now days? Not a fisher person but gently caress it, own your style. people just look most good in whatever they feel comfortable as hell in and own it. Screw the haters that told him to take off the hat. Hope those fools stub their toes on something or some such 
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M'benga is insanely chill. Dude is an asmr elemental.
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I like how they ended up paying it off and I think it works well as-is, but I do think the tighter version of that story would have been Spock being able to prove that he wasn't too human for T'Pring and that he could channel his Vulcan side and out-logic that other dude when necessary. But as it stands, showing that logic is not alwys the best solution pays it off in a different way. But because the episode opened with Spock worrying that he was too human, it just feels a touch discordant to me. Such a minor complaint about such a good episode, though.
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I dunno, T'Pring agreed that his method was the logical one after meeting not-Sybok
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DaveKap posted:
Oh good, I did hear it right after all. Maybe I got confused because Chapel later says something about "the right guy" coming along or whatever.
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Because it was meant to be a slip of the tongue about Spock. Believe it or not, intentionally clever writing in a modern live action Trek show!
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This is all just me being sensitive because my last gf introduced me to her then-roommate as "my life-partner" so I didn't realize she was hitting on me for several months
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I've decided I'm fine with almost everything newerTrek has done except giving Picard an android body. There's no need for it. Every time I remember it, I reject it mentally. Sorry to whomever wrote that character turn, but no, none for me, thanks
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